2025 Draft prospects - thread 2

[HomoSapien]

I think my top "realistic" pick is Demin. His skill level just jumps out and I can see him easily fitting in on this team. I like KJ a lot too, but I'm concerned about the overlap between him, Giddey, and White. Obviously that's not a reason to not draft him, but Giddey specifically is our best young piece.

[sco]

I think my top "realistic" pick is Demin. His skill level just jumps out and I can see him easily fitting in on this team. I like KJ a lot too, but I'm concerned about the overlap between him, Giddey, and White. Obviously that's not a reason to not draft him, but Giddey specifically is our best young piece.

I'm intrigued by Demin, he seems very adept as a playmaker and driver, but not as a shooter or defender. I get the KJ/Giddey overlap, but if he's there you worry about it later.

[The Box Office]

I mentioned Cedric Coward around 2 months ago as a sleeper pick. Didn't think he'd enter the draft after he committed to Duke a few weeks ago. He might enter the draft if he has a first round guarantee.

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This kid doesn't play defense. He's terrible at that right now. His "senior" college status doesn't help him either. I could be wrong, but currently he looks like 2nd round talent.

[Jvaughn]

I think my top "realistic" pick is Demin. His skill level just jumps out and I can see him easily fitting in on this team. I like KJ a lot too, but I'm concerned about the overlap between him, Giddey, and White. Obviously that's not a reason to not draft him, but Giddey specifically is our best young piece.

I'm intrigued by Demin, he seems very adept as a playmaker and driver, but not as a shooter or defender. I get the KJ/Giddey overlap, but if he's there you worry about it later.

Much like last year with Buzelis, I'm not overly concerned with Demin's shooting. Functionally there doesn't appear to be anything broken with it. With consistency, I think shot will be fine. Wish Patton was around still to ensure it though......

[Jstock12]

I think my top "realistic" pick is Demin. His skill level just jumps out and I can see him easily fitting in on this team. I like KJ a lot too, but I'm concerned about the overlap between him, Giddey, and White. Obviously that's not a reason to not draft him, but Giddey specifically is our best young piece.

I'm intrigued by Demin, he seems very adept as a playmaker and driver, but not as a shooter or defender. I get the KJ/Giddey overlap, but if he's there you worry about it later.

Much like last year with Buzelis, I'm not overly concerned with Demin's shooting. Functionally there doesn't appear to be anything broken with it. With consistency, I think shot will be fine. Wish Patton was around still to ensure it though......

I think the big difference is that Buzelis had a history of being a good shooter in highschool (40%+). Meanwhile, Demin was never a good shooter. In his teen years in Europe he was constantly hovering around the 28-31% range.

[pipfan]

Newell is still my first choice-I want Matas at the 3 long term, and play a bigger lineup

[boundbymusic]

I think my top "realistic" pick is Demin. His skill level just jumps out and I can see him easily fitting in on this team. I like KJ a lot too, but I'm concerned about the overlap between him, Giddey, and White. Obviously that's not a reason to not draft him, but Giddey specifically is our best young piece.

Demin has much more overlap with Giddey than KJ does. At least KJ has a jumpshot.

[Jvaughn]

I'm intrigued by Demin, he seems very adept as a playmaker and driver, but not as a shooter or defender. I get the KJ/Giddey overlap, but if he's there you worry about it later.

Much like last year with Buzelis, I'm not overly concerned with Demin's shooting. Functionally there doesn't appear to be anything broken with it. With consistency, I think shot will be fine. Wish Patton was around still to ensure it though......

I think the big difference is that Buzelis had a history of being a good shooter in highschool (40%+). Meanwhile, Demin was never a good shooter. In his teen years in Europe he was constantly hovering around the 28-31% range.

Yeah, definitely doesn't have a history of good shooting. I'm just more optimistic on the outcome. Nothing appears broken in the shot. Solid, repeatable form. Good arc. It just doesn't go in. Lol

[Jcool0]

I think my top "realistic" pick is Demin. His skill level just jumps out and I can see him easily fitting in on this team. I like KJ a lot too, but I'm concerned about the overlap between him, Giddey, and White. Obviously that's not a reason to not draft him, but Giddey specifically is our best young piece.

How does Giddy 2.0 easily fit well and KJ is overlap?

[boozapalooza]

To the CMB gang - 3/15 in this clip lol

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[sco]

To the CMB gang - 3/15 in this clip lol

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There was a breeze!

[nomorezorro]

but hey, at least it's such a fluid and quick release

[Chi town]

I think my top "realistic" pick is Demin. His skill level just jumps out and I can see him easily fitting in on this team. I like KJ a lot too, but I'm concerned about the overlap between him, Giddey, and White. Obviously that's not a reason to not draft him, but Giddey specifically is our best young piece.

Where does he gets mins? Backup SF behind Giddey?

[Chi town]

To the CMB gang - 3/15 in this clip lol

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There was a breeze!

Yikes. That shot looks horrible. He stands up. That never going in.

CMB without a 3ball or jumper is not playoff playable.

That looks so bad I’d say DO NOT DRAFT.

[Chi town]

Newell is still my first choice-I want Matas at the 3 long term, and play a bigger lineup

Don’t think Billy ever does that.

Giddey is the Point Forward.
Buz the PF.

[burlydee]

Newell is still my first choice-I want Matas at the 3 long term, and play a bigger lineup

Don’t think Billy ever does that.

Giddey is the Point Forward.
Buz the PF.

Than Billy should be fired. Bulls played a lot better with Giddey at point guard with another guard (Coby) and either two forwards or a forward and a wing. One of my biggest pet peeves with Billy as the season ended was his pathological need to play small when the Bulls could easily play big.

I think long term Matas is a 3 as well. He's just not a great rebounder, putting on weight is often more trouble than it's worth and he wants to play on the perimeter on offense. I think he'll eventually play the 4 some as he fills out but developing into a legit 6'10 SF would be an incredible outcome.

[burlydee]

I think my top "realistic" pick is Demin. His skill level just jumps out and I can see him easily fitting in on this team. I like KJ a lot too, but I'm concerned about the overlap between him, Giddey, and White. Obviously that's not a reason to not draft him, but Giddey specifically is our best young piece.

I'm not a huge fan. An additive player for sure but I think he struggles to create offense in the half court and works better as a secondary playmaker. Given that he's neither a great shooter or defender I struggle to see how he makes a consistent impact. If he was a guy who could get to the rim and score, I'd be interested. But I see him as a guy who makes a nice pass or pretty play once in awhile and disappears for most of the game. I think some of his teammates are better. That's the 2nd part of this- this wasn't a typical BYU team, they had a big, athletic squad. They are maxing out that NIL money. He played with good teammates. He was inefficient in college and I think he'll be inefficient in the pros.

[burlydee]

Newell is still my first choice-I want Matas at the 3 long term, and play a bigger lineup

Don’t think Billy ever does that.

Giddey is the Point Forward.
Buz the PF.

Than Billy should be fired. Bulls played a lot better with Giddey at point guard with another guard (Coby) and either two forwards or a forward and a wing. One of my biggest pet peeves with Billy as the season ended was his pathological need to play small when the Bulls could easily play big.

I think long term Matas is a 3 as well. He's just not a great rebounder, putting on weight is often more trouble than it's worth and he wants to play on the perimeter on offense. I think he'll eventually play the 4 some as he fills out but developing into a legit 6'10 SF would be an incredible outcome.

Not to beat a dead horse, but this kind of gets at the heart of how I think the team should be built. A few points -

1. The point guard is generally the worst defender on the team.

2. Giddey has a distinct advantage over every PG in the league (except Cade) because of his size.

3. Playing big allows the Bulls to punish teams that decide to play small. Even if you put your wing on Giddey, there is a size mismatch at another position. This is one reason I think the Bulls and Giddey played better with Huerter in the lineup. Even if you put your PG on Coby, it gets the Bulls out of always being the smaller team. Giddey matched up with point guards, particularly in transition, was money for the Bulls down the stretch.

4. You're simply never going to have a good D with Coby, Giddey, guard out there. Not Ayo, not Ball, not Jones. Unless the plan is to get Caruso back, the easiest path to an actual decent defense if Giddey, Coby, Matas are your 3 is a wing or forward with some physicality.

[BullsSD]

I think my top "realistic" pick is Demin. His skill level just jumps out and I can see him easily fitting in on this team. I like KJ a lot too, but I'm concerned about the overlap between him, Giddey, and White. Obviously that's not a reason to not draft him, but Giddey specifically is our best young piece.

Totally disagree. Demin and Giddey can’t coexist. They are the same player. Might be the only player we literally cannot draft.

Top Tier: Maluach/Queen
Mid Tier: Fleming/Bryant/Newell/Wolf
Bottom Tier: Sorber/CMB/Essengue

[burlydee]

I don't think we're talking about Danny Wolf enough, particularly given what we know about what AK values in bigs.

Everyone talks about his offense, but he was actually a pretty good defender and rebounder. Bc of his ball skills and passing, I wonder if the ceiling isn't just much higher with him than other guys. The turnovers don't really worry me. He won't be the best ball handler on the Bulls.