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Who do you want us to take at #3?

Ace Bailey
34
45%
V.J. Edgecombe
20
27%
Kon Knueppel
3
4%
Khaman Maluach
1
1%
Tre Johnson
14
19%
Derik Queen
3
4%
 
Total votes: 75

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Re: 2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#1201 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Wed May 14, 2025 2:34 am

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Kobblehead wrote:I'd trade back for a pick in the Top Ten plus an unused prospect.

Houston seems ideal partner for this. Trade #3 for #10 and Cam Whitmore.

Cam Whitmore this year per-36: 20.8 points, 6.6 boards, 2.1 assists, 1.3 steals, 0.6 blocks. Freak athlete at 6'7" 230.

Then take Collin Murray-Boyles at #10.

I’m surprised you’re not all in on Tre Johnson. A bomber like that seems like your type of player.


The longer I'm evaluating everything, the closer I am to settling on Tre as a real option at 3 even though he is truly one of the worst defensive players I've watched.


He's the closest thing to a can't miss at where we are drafting.
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Post#1202 » by 76ciology » Wed May 14, 2025 2:39 am

Arsenal wrote:Noa Essengue is the home run swing. If we trade down he's the guy I want.


Low assists numbers (+- 1.0++)
Low 3pt% numbers (sub 30%)
Low stocks numbers (+- 1.0++)
Above average length at best with 6’11 wingspan
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Post#1203 » by Negrodamus » Wed May 14, 2025 2:44 am

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Iverson Armband wrote:I’m surprised you’re not all in on Tre Johnson. A bomber like that seems like your type of player.


The longer I'm evaluating everything, the closer I am to settling on Tre as a real option at 3 even though he is truly one of the worst defensive players I've watched.


He's the closest thing to a can't miss at where we are drafting.


After letting myself believe he could be a Jamal Murray type player, it became easier to get on board. I do think Murray had more chops as a PG when playing for Canada the summer before coming to Kentucky.
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Re: 2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#1204 » by Mik317 » Wed May 14, 2025 2:44 am

yall lames are focusing on weak things like pick 3

when we need to be focusing the real issues....what do we do at 35?
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Post#1205 » by 76ciology » Wed May 14, 2025 2:46 am

Imagine if the Orlando Magic had drafted Cam Thomas with the 5th overall pick in the 2021 draft instead of Jalen Suggs..

Would they have regretted it? That’s the kind of question I’d be asking myself if I were considering taking Tre Johnson over VJ Edgecombe
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Post#1206 » by 76ciology » Wed May 14, 2025 2:49 am

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If this kid turns out to be the next Michael Jordan, I wouldn’t feel bad. He really looks bad on all angles. And i’ve been saying this since early NCAA season
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Post#1207 » by Negrodamus » Wed May 14, 2025 2:51 am

76ciology wrote:Imagine if the Orlando Magic had drafted Cam Thomas with the 5th overall pick in the 2021 draft instead of Jalen Suggs..

Would they have regretted it? That’s the kind of question I’d be asking myself if I were considering taking Tre Johnson over VJ Edgecombe


I think the Magic would still prefer Suggs over Cam right now. You think Banchero and Wagner want to stand around watching Cam jack up 18 shots a game?
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Post#1208 » by sodmoraes » Wed May 14, 2025 2:52 am

The good thing of drafting Tre( or edgecombe) is that our backcourt will be loaded next year:
Maxey/ Mccain
Grimes/Tre( or Edge). Hope Nurse dont play the retired guys anymore lol.

Im big on Tre, but i still think Bailey can be a good pick too. In his first years, he will not be asked to carry the offense, so he can focus on defense and CS from 3. After that he will be stronger and a better player, so he can add some offensive responsabilities, like some iso plays, if his handle and off the dribble shooting improves.

Ace may have a bigger bust potential than most of the top players on this draft, but i think he too has the most potential, after Flagg( bigger than Harper). And we need a impactful player, since we cant rely on Embiid anymore. Love the big guy, but hes not part of our future anymore.

Anyways i will happy with both Tre and Bailey, as both can be stars. But Ace is a riskier pick, no doubt about that, but his template tends to be more valuable than Tre's, so theres that.

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Post#1209 » by 76ciology » Wed May 14, 2025 2:54 am

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Post#1210 » by Sixersftw » Wed May 14, 2025 2:55 am

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If this kid turns out to be the next Michael Jordan, I wouldn’t feel bad. He really looks bad on all angles. And i’ve been saying this since early NCAA season

Lol, I knew that shot was getting clipped when I saw it even though he looked pretty good in that drill. I'm not an Ace guy but I'm willing to let Daryl cook in the draft.
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Post#1211 » by 76ciology » Wed May 14, 2025 2:55 am

Negrodamus wrote:
76ciology wrote:Imagine if the Orlando Magic had drafted Cam Thomas with the 5th overall pick in the 2021 draft instead of Jalen Suggs..

Would they have regretted it? That’s the kind of question I’d be asking myself if I were considering taking Tre Johnson over VJ Edgecombe


I think the Magic would still prefer Suggs over Cam right now. You think Banchero and Wagner want to stand around watching Cam jack up 18 shots a game?


Maybe they’d draft Chet instead of Banchero. Cam is a better shot maker or has the upside to be a better shot maker than Banchero. It also lessens the load Banchero and/or Wagner has on offense, which is leading to their problems in the playoffs.
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Post#1212 » by Arsenal » Wed May 14, 2025 2:56 am

76ciology wrote:
Arsenal wrote:Noa Essengue is the home run swing. If we trade down he's the guy I want.


Low assists numbers (+- 1.0++)
Low 3pt% numbers (sub 30%)
Low stocks numbers (+- 1.0++)
Above average length at best with 6’11 wingspan


His wingspan number seems bogus considering his reported standing reach of 9'3". One of those two measurements must be wrong. I concede if his wingspan is only 6'11' then it reduces his stock.

Only 18.5 years old, same age as Flagg, youngest two in the class.

Insane .800 FTR

2.9 STOCKS / 36 - only slightly below Flagg, Edgecombe and CMB among top prospects

64.6% TS

60.0% EFG

Positive A/TO - you can't expect an 18-year-old playing with grown men to be allowed to handle unless your name is Luka

73.0% FT is good enough to work with
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Post#1213 » by Mik317 » Wed May 14, 2025 2:58 am

Ace's selling point is that wings of his size are the holy grail. You hit on one and you have it made. The issue is that people don't realize how thin the needle is for those guys to make it. The holy grail wing are often great athletes, have great handle, and are great shooters. yeah...Ace is a good athlete. Has bad handle. And is a shooter by rep only atm. HOWEVA, he has one of THE former holy grail wings to learn from as well as hardworkers like Maxey to work with...and won't be tasked to be the guy right away like he would on worse teams.

VJ's selling point is his athleticism. Its more than jump outta da gym but rather his first step. That looks elite to me. He is bigger than I feared which is also great. HOWEVA, still not as big as you'd like (wakka wakka), the jumper is meh, and I think he ends up as a good starter rather than a star.

Tre's selling point is the shooting. The game is about getting a bucket. Better athlete than advertised. The defense is bad but how much was it because he had to be the offense. HOWEVA, I think he fits in less right away, doesn't use that athleticism in game, and the defense was just ass man.
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Post#1214 » by Negrodamus » Wed May 14, 2025 2:58 am

76ciology wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
76ciology wrote:Imagine if the Orlando Magic had drafted Cam Thomas with the 5th overall pick in the 2021 draft instead of Jalen Suggs..

Would they have regretted it? That’s the kind of question I’d be asking myself if I were considering taking Tre Johnson over VJ Edgecombe


I think the Magic would still prefer Suggs over Cam right now. You think Banchero and Wagner want to stand around watching Cam jack up 18 shots a game?


Maybe they’d draft Chet instead of Banchero. Cam is a better shot maker or has the upside to be a better shot maker than Banchero. It also lessens the load Banchero and/or Wagner has on offense, which is leading to their problems in the playoffs.


I'd imagine they'd rather have a dynamic shot creator who plays defense rather than a scorer who does absolutely nothing else. Could be wrong though. Tre at least has some distribution chops to him and isn't tiny.
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Post#1215 » by Negrodamus » Wed May 14, 2025 2:59 am



This is who we should actually draft, but we have a logjam and I don't think Morey has the gall to move on from Maxey right now.
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Post#1216 » by Arsenal » Wed May 14, 2025 3:00 am

Mik317 wrote:yall lames are focusing on weak things like pick 3

when we need to be focusing the real issues....what do we do at 35?


I wanted JT Toppin but he got paid $10m to stay in college. Now I want Cedric Coward but he's rocketing up the boards like his twin Jalen Williams did a few years ago. Maybe Negro's favorite Miles Byrd will be available. Interested in Maxime Raynaud also, always wanted a stretch-5. Boboljub Markovic looks interesting also, he's our current projection on Tankathon.
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Post#1217 » by Mik317 » Wed May 14, 2025 3:01 am

I'd take one of the giant white centers at 35. Thats what we have been missing
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Post#1218 » by Arsenal » Wed May 14, 2025 3:05 am

Someone convince me VJ Edgecombe has star potential because I don't see it. He could be a good two-way player, maybe like Derrick White or Jalen Suggs, but has virtually no star potential.
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Post#1219 » by Arsenal » Wed May 14, 2025 3:08 am

Mik317 wrote:I'd take one of the giant white centers at 35. Thats what we have been missing


Kalkbrenner seems like that guy, and he's mocked in that range

I do not want him because his FT% and lack of 3PT attempts show that his "shooting" is fraudulent.
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Post#1220 » by Arsenal » Wed May 14, 2025 3:10 am

Negrodamus wrote:

This is who we should actually draft, but we have a logjam and I don't think Morey has the gall to move on from Maxey right now.


Numbers look great but his measurements have been disappointing. He's stuck at PG only.

And you're right, I don't think he's good enough to push Morey to ship out Maxey.

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