2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7

[Son Goku 25]

Gonna be a long wait until the draft lol

[MEDIC]

I keep thinking that Riley is going to be one of those players that gets picked in the late teens or 20's, then goes on to develop into an allstar level.scorer.

He is very skilled, yet still raw in many ways. I think there is a lit of growth potential there.

[Dalek]

I keep thinking that Riley is going to be one of those players that gets picked in the late teens or 20's, then goes on to develop into an allstar level.scorer.

He is very skilled, yet still raw in many ways. I think there is a lit of growth potential there.

He was the guy on my radar since U17. He blew up in an EYBL game and I was convinced this kid has star potential. He is just held back by his skinny frame. They said he gained 15 lbs since last year and he is still only 185. Once he hit 200 watch out.

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[DreamTeam09]

If you go back to the beginning of the year I'm posting how Riley will be our pick and is probably a lock lol. That was well before we had BI,. He was the first prospect I discovered because I was looking at SFs. I like Flemming or taking a flyer on Noa before I go to Will, too much skill not enough Will in his game imo

[XTC]

Cedric Coward won the combine IMO.

Amazing measurements(+9 height to wingspan), shooting, athletic, defense, and he has shown shot creation.

Hes going to go alot higher than people realize. I would not be surprised if be goes top 10, and if he's a guy Masai is looking at. Very typical Masai type pick, and I see some hidden upside. He could one of those guys who keeps improving and ends up being a star IMO.

[Mark_83]

Cedric Coward won the combine IMO.

Amazing measurements(+9 height to wingspan), shooting, athletic, defense, and he has shown shot creation.

Hes going to go alot higher than people realize. I would not be surprised if be goes top 10, and if he's a guy Masai is looking at. Very typical Masai type pick, and I see some hidden upside. He could one of those guys who keeps improving and ends up being a star IMO.

4th best max vertical too at 38.5 inches.

[Dalek]

Been watching film and interviews and I think Danny Wolf is our pick even at 9. His skill and character guy that fits the modern NBA.

Look at the recent track record:
Kelly Olynyk
Jontay Porter
Colin Castleton
Jakob Poeltl

We love bigs who can handle, play off DHOs and even invert pnrs. Wolf would arguably be the one of the biggest and most talented Cs we have in recent memory.

He measured out around 7 feet and 7'2 wingspan and he showed well in agility tests. He can shoot it a bit from everywhere and is able to play with other bigs. He even sounds like Poeltl.

Maybe after watching Queen so much I missed out on Wolf but he is probably the best skilled big in the draft with at worst neutral defense. In a scaled back bench role he is going to be great. I can already hear Leo say: "that's a 7fter out there!"

[Mark_83]

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[Got Nuffin]

Cedric Coward won the combine IMO.

Amazing measurements(+9 height to wingspan), shooting, athletic, defense, and he has shown shot creation.

Hes going to go alot higher than people realize. I would not be surprised if be goes top 10, and if he's a guy Masai is looking at. Very typical Masai type pick, and I see some hidden upside. He could one of those guys who keeps improving and ends up being a star IMO.

Won't he be 22 by the time the season starts?

Sounds like he will have a great NBA career with those measurements but he is just a couple years younger than Scottie Barnes already.

It's possible we pick him but I think only if a a handful of players Masai likes are off the board imo. He's got about 3 years of development advantage over Fears and Maluach for example which can be a lifetime.

[Clay Davis]

i think we're gonna draft the highest rizz player in the entire classs

[Thaddy]

Dream draft would be Maluach, Fleming, and Kalkbrenner. None of them would be stars but we'd have one hell of a defensive line up.

Maluach
Fleming
Ingram
Barnes
Shead

Surrounding Ingram with defense could be a ticket towards being a very strong team.

[UnbelievablyRAW]

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16:40

A scout rep from one of the top 5 teams in the draft told him Queen is a top 5 pick

[Appostis]

Going be a ton of undrafted gems from this year's draft.

[Clutch0z24]

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A scout rep from one of the top 5 teams in the draft told him Queen is a top 5 pick

Yep because the Draft Combine is something that should be taken with a grain of salt....Especially all these Measurements/High jumps/Shooting in an open gym mean nothing to on court basketball production at the end of the day....I mean you can have concerns on the defensive end or if you draft him your rim protection still needs to be addressed ....But to look at NBA Draft Combine stuff and say "This guy sucks" Is funny to me...

In a 5 on 5 NBA Setting i bet Queen outshines the majority of the players in this draft....Teams will have these guys in for workouts and run scrimmages and i bet Queen shines in them....I hope teams though are silly and dismiss Queen after the combine so he has a better chance to fall to 9....Would not be mad one bit if we draft him...

[UnbelievablyRAW]

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16:40

A scout rep from one of the top 5 teams in the draft told him Queen is a top 5 pick

Yep because the Draft Combine is not something that shouls be taken with a grain of salt....Especially all these Measurements/High jumps/Shooting in an open gym mean nothing to on court basketball production at the end of the day....I mean you can have concerns on the defensive end or if you draft him your rim protection still needs to be addressed ....But to look at NBA Draft Combine stuff and say "This guy sucks" Is funny to me...

In a 5 on 5 NBA Setting i bet Queen outshines the majority of the players in this draft....Teams will have these guys in for workouts and run scrimmiges and i bet Queen shines in them....I hope teams though are silly and dismiss Queen after the combine so he has a better chance to fall to 9....Would not be mad one bit if we draft him...

Those numbers made me a bit skeptical of if he'll be played off the court defensively being that slow.

I'm now at Queen or Jak at 9 with some thought to moving down and getting another asset and one of Fleming or Bryant.

I think you could argue if Jak just sat the rest of the year after he injured his forearm in January and had started playing worse, he would have remained in top 5, top 6 convos just off the stretch from end of Nov to mid Jan where his team went 8-2 and he averaged 20/5/5 (and 4 TOs) on 51/46/89 shooting taking 6 3's a game. Turnovers were an eye sore but thats incredible stuff

That guy is still in there and I think he's being too underrated now with where he's falling to in the draft.

[Clutch0z24]

16:40

A scout rep from one of the top 5 teams in the draft told him Queen is a top 5 pick

Yep because the Draft Combine is not something that shouls be taken with a grain of salt....Especially all these Measurements/High jumps/Shooting in an open gym mean nothing to on court basketball production at the end of the day....I mean you can have concerns on the defensive end or if you draft him your rim protection still needs to be addressed ....But to look at NBA Draft Combine stuff and say "This guy sucks" Is funny to me...

In a 5 on 5 NBA Setting i bet Queen outshines the majority of the players in this draft....Teams will have these guys in for workouts and run scrimmiges and i bet Queen shines in them....I hope teams though are silly and dismiss Queen after the combine so he has a better chance to fall to 9....Would not be mad one bit if we draft him...

Those numbers made me a bit skeptical of if he'll be played off the court defensively being that slow.

I'm now at Queen or Jak at 9 with some thought to moving down and getting another asset and one of Fleming or Bryant.

I think you could argue if Jak just sat the rest of the year after he injured his forearm in January and had started playing worse, he would have remained in top 5, top 6 convos just off the stretch from end of Nov to mid Jan where his team went 8-2 and he averaged 20/5/5 (and 4 TOs) on 51/46/89 shooting taking 6 3's a game. Turnovers were an eye sore but thats incredible stuff

That guy is still in there and I think he's being too underrated now with where he's falling to in the draft.

Yeah Queen is still in body transformation mode....He needs to lose more weight and add more tone and muscle so he can move a little better....The defense will need work but i think its a little dramatic because his steal numbers and his block numbers are actually pretty good....And he knows angles really well....Just he needs to get slimmer so he can move a litter faster.....Having that concern is fair.....But this Draft Combine stuff...If he has bad showing that does not make him a bad basketball player because it has nothing to do with basketball....If it did guys like Sengun/Jokic would be called bums as well...

As for Jak i would not be mad at that pick either.....We deff need either a PG Who can run a team (Because IQ to me is not a true lead guard) And a big man...To me if you are going BPA could make a case if either Queen/Jak are at 9 they could be BPA (I still doubt Queen slides that far due to his skill) But if Queen/Maluach are picked before us that means Kon/Jak or Fears would be available at 9. And atm im good with any of Queen/Jak/Kon/Fears/Traore/Maluach (Although i have my concerns) ....Im not so sold on picking guys like Flemming/Carter Bryant/Noa at 9 though... I think better players will be available.

[RoteSchroder]

Cedric Coward won the combine IMO.

Amazing measurements(+9 height to wingspan), shooting, athletic, defense, and he has shown shot creation.

Hes going to go alot higher than people realize. I would not be surprised if be goes top 10, and if he's a guy Masai is looking at. Very typical Masai type pick, and I see some hidden upside. He could one of those guys who keeps improving and ends up being a star IMO.

Won't he be 22 by the time the season starts?

Sounds like he will have a great NBA career with those measurements but he is just a couple years younger than Scottie Barnes already.

It's possible we pick him but I think only if a a handful of players Masai likes are off the board imo. He's got about 3 years of development advantage over Fears and Maluach for example which can be a lifetime.

thing with older rookies is that we can see that they've already developed parts of their game and are capable of improving, whereas if we take someone a bit more raw, but younger, we've got no idea if they can make the necessary strides. In a lot of cases, flashy upside and potential never works out

[RoteSchroder]

Where are people at on Yang? Are we dismissing him because of competition level? The skill level looks real, and in the second round it might be worth the risk.

There was a period last year where he looked like an absolute stiff on the court due to lack of athleticism..not sure if it's cause he was dealing with some sort of injury, but I'd like to see his combine results

EDIT: found this on reddit..he's on my radar now. He looks so unathletic on the court though

7'1, 7'2 3/4 wingspan, 9'3" standing reach, 2nd largest hands in draft class

• Standing Vertical Jump:66.04 cm(26 inches),ranked 58th

• Running Vertical Jump:76.20 cm(30 inches),ranked 60th

• Change of Direction Run:11.79 seconds,ranked 61st

• 3/4 Court Sprint:3.38 seconds,ranked 59th

• Pro Agility Shuttle Run:3.01 seconds,ranked 42nd

• Spot Shooting:14 out of 25 makes,56%shooting percentage,ranked 34th

• Off-the-Dribble Shooting:15 out of 30 makes,50%shooting percentage,ranked 52nd

• Three-Point Shooting:14 out of 25 makes,56%shooting percentage,ranked 30th

• Free Throws:7 out of 10 makes,70%shooting percentage,ranked 54th

• Wing-to-Midcourt-to-Wing Shooting:14 out of 27 makes,51.9%shooting percentage,ranked 32nd

[Duffman100]

Been watching film and interviews and I think Danny Wolf is our pick even at 9. His skill and character guy that fits the modern NBA.

Look at the recent track record:
Kelly Olynyk
Jontay Porter
Colin Castleton
Jakob Poeltl

We love bigs who can handle, play off DHOs and even invert pnrs. Wolf would arguably be the one of the biggest and most talented Cs we have in recent memory.

He measured out around 7 feet and 7'2 wingspan and he showed well in agility tests. He can shoot it a bit from everywhere and is able to play with other bigs. He even sounds like Poeltl.

Maybe after watching Queen so much I missed out on Wolf but he is probably the best skilled big in the draft with at worst neutral defense. In a scaled back bench role he is going to be great. I can already hear Leo say: "that's a 7fter out there!"

Yeah I've sort of dismissed Wolf as a later 1st. But i could totally see it. Darko likes smart playmakers at the 5.

[Jerry Lucas]

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A scout rep from one of the top 5 teams in the draft told him Queen is a top 5 pick

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised. His BestRank on Aggregate 5.0 is 4, and his WorstRank is 16.

Wide range of outcomes for pretty much everyone in this draft outside of Flagg, Harper, and IMO Edgecombe and Bailey as well (for both of them their BestRank is 3 and WorstRank is 5).