Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap -- 1st page updated on July 1st

[daoneandonly]

If he's part of that "handshake" deal, all the more he can't be fired or he will squeal. He's inner circle now with Silver, Buss and Klutch.

I'm just being realistic man. Loose ends don't get fired. They don't get to resign either. If you're in, you're in. Omerta.

There was no handshake deal, Nico made a terrible trade and it blew up in his face.
I do not however rule out league intervention, because a sell out crowd was about to bail on a franchise in a top 5 market.

Nah Nico is not that dumb. He's made good moves before the Luka trade. I never believed he did this without some weird corruption taking place. We just didn't know what they had planned. Now it makes sense. This was all Adam Silver trying to give his league a shot in the arm. I'm pissed he chose the Mavericks to do this to and we lost Luka because of it. But if Flagg is as good as he's hyped up to be, this might work out pretty damn good lol.

He's made mostly bad moves though

Traded KP and a 2nd for Dinwiddie and the definition of garbage Bertans
Traded an unprotected swap for Grant Williams
Then had to trade basically an unprotected pick with WIlliams for PJ, instead of trading Josh Green
Gave Josh Green a 13 mil a year deal

[Mr B]

This is the time when you need to trade Gaff and PJ for someone like Desmond Bane since Gaff and PJ are to be paid larger contracts in a year anyway. Bane fits next to Kyrie, AD and Flagg finish the game at C and PF anyway.

The thing with AD is he just doesn't like playing C the whole game. But he can close it out at C. Everybody moves 1 spot back up.

Cooper Flagg definitely makes PJ expendable. I’m still iffy on trading Gafford this year though. I know they won’t be able to afford both Gafford and Lively on huge contracts. I think it would be best though to go ahead and pay Gafford his starting center money and then only trade him when it’s time to pay Lively. They should be able to get back more for Gafford with him being on a larger contract.

[41Dirk41]

There was no handshake deal, Nico made a terrible trade and it blew up in his face.
I do not however rule out league intervention, because a sell out crowd was about to bail on a franchise in a top 5 market.

Nah Nico is not that dumb. He's made good moves before the Luka trade. I never believed he did this without some weird corruption taking place. We just didn't know what they had planned. Now it makes sense. This was all Adam Silver trying to give his league a shot in the arm. I'm pissed he chose the Mavericks to do this to and we lost Luka because of it. But if Flagg is as good as he's hyped up to be, this might work out pretty damn good lol.

He's made mostly bad moves though

Traded KP and a 2nd for Dinwiddie and the definition of garbage Bertans
Traded an unprotected swap for Grant Williams
Then had to trade basically an unprotected pick with WIlliams for PJ, instead of trading Josh Green
Gave Josh Green a 13 mil a year deal

Yes you are right but nobody is perfect, Harrison worked well as Mavs GM before "The Collusion"... We played in the Finals last year.

Flagg is not Luka, he can't carry a team like him.

But our roster is good, very good. Maybe dysfunctional and no easy fixable but we have some assets.

I still hope they will fire Harrison of course.

[arkuo]

Getting Flagg changes things for the Mavs, the lineup etc.

PJ for Herb Jones, who says no?

[arkuo]

Celtics looking to trade out of some players to cut salary drastically. Also having 2 players on Supermaxes doesn't reward you in the new system.

PJ + Gaff for Derrick White works salary-wise. Does this work for Dallas?

PJ and Gaff are signed on for one more year. White is signed for 4 more years.

[Mr B]

Celtics looking to trade out of some players to cut salary drastically. Also having 2 players on Supermaxes doesn't reward you in the new system.

PJ + Gaff for Derrick White works salary-wise. Does this work for Dallas?

PJ and Gaff are signed on for one more year. White is signed for 4 more years.

I think the Mavs could do better than that for Gafford/PJ.

I’m also hoping they consider resigning Gafford. They don’t HAVE to trade him until it’s time to also pay Lively. They could then get more for Gafford in a trade simply because of his salary. Having Cooper Flagg makes PJ expendable.

[Archx]

Celtics looking to trade out of some players to cut salary drastically. Also having 2 players on Supermaxes doesn't reward you in the new system.

PJ + Gaff for Derrick White works salary-wise. Does this work for Dallas?

PJ and Gaff are signed on for one more year. White is signed for 4 more years.

I think the Mavs could do better than that for Gafford/PJ.

I’m also hoping they consider resigning Gafford. They don’t HAVE to trade him until it’s time to also pay Lively. They could then get more for Gafford in a trade simply because of his salary. Having Cooper Flagg makes PJ expendable.

Well here is the problem. PJ is a versatile wing that can play multiple positions and obviously can stretch the floor. He's been incredibly valuable since the arrival. And Gafford will not only have to share the floor with Lively but also with AD now. Depends on the matchup, if Mavs go small, then Gafford will be buried behind all 3 AD/Lively/PJ. So... why would you pay him? If you do pay him, then you need to let go of PJ.

But getting rid of both PJ/Gaff would make Mavs thin again at the forward positions. Do we really want to go 5y backwards? Drafting Flagg softens losing Grimes a bit because it will give Mavs more depth again but salary cap is going to become a huge problem really fast.

[Teffer10]

Celtics looking to trade out of some players to cut salary drastically. Also having 2 players on Supermaxes doesn't reward you in the new system.

PJ + Gaff for Derrick White works salary-wise. Does this work for Dallas?

PJ and Gaff are signed on for one more year. White is signed for 4 more years.

I think the Mavs could do better than that for Gafford/PJ.

I’m also hoping they consider resigning Gafford. They don’t HAVE to trade him until it’s time to also pay Lively. They could then get more for Gafford in a trade simply because of his salary. Having Cooper Flagg makes PJ expendable.

Well here is the problem. PJ is a versatile wing that can play multiple positions and obviously can stretch the floor. He's been incredibly valuable since the arrival. And Gafford will not only have to share the floor with Lively but also with AD now. Depends on the matchup, if Mavs go small, then Gafford will be buried behind all 3 AD/Lively/PJ. So... why would you pay him? If you do pay him, then you need to let go of PJ.

But getting rid of both PJ/Gaff would make Mavs thin again at the forward positions. Do we really want to go 5y backwards? Drafting Flagg softens losing Grimes a bit because it will give Mavs more depth again but salary cap is going to become a huge problem really fast.

Yeah. I think Gaff is the obvious odd man out and PJ would only go in a package with him if a star is coming back in return.

KD is most likely out of the question now so moving Gaff and maybe Omax to yield a playmaking PG makes the most sense to me.

[Mr B]

I think the Mavs could do better than that for Gafford/PJ.

I’m also hoping they consider resigning Gafford. They don’t HAVE to trade him until it’s time to also pay Lively. They could then get more for Gafford in a trade simply because of his salary. Having Cooper Flagg makes PJ expendable.

Well here is the problem. PJ is a versatile wing that can play multiple positions and obviously can stretch the floor. He's been incredibly valuable since the arrival. And Gafford will not only have to share the floor with Lively but also with AD now. Depends on the matchup, if Mavs go small, then Gafford will be buried behind all 3 AD/Lively/PJ. So... why would you pay him? If you do pay him, then you need to let go of PJ.

But getting rid of both PJ/Gaff would make Mavs thin again at the forward positions. Do we really want to go 5y backwards? Drafting Flagg softens losing Grimes a bit because it will give Mavs more depth again but salary cap is going to become a huge problem really fast.

Yeah. I think Gaff is the obvious odd man out and PJ would only go in a package with him if a star is coming back in return.

KD is most likely out of the question now so moving Gaff and maybe Omax to yield a playmaking PG makes the most sense to me.

With the health of Lively and AD the Mavs would need another backup 5 that is better than Kai Jones. Cooper makes PJ redundant in my opinion but if they do keep him and can find a backup up 5 to replace Gafford then that would be fine. If they trade Gafford though without replacing him then be prepared to see A LOT of Dwight Powell.

[Archx]

Well here is the problem. PJ is a versatile wing that can play multiple positions and obviously can stretch the floor. He's been incredibly valuable since the arrival. And Gafford will not only have to share the floor with Lively but also with AD now. Depends on the matchup, if Mavs go small, then Gafford will be buried behind all 3 AD/Lively/PJ. So... why would you pay him? If you do pay him, then you need to let go of PJ.

But getting rid of both PJ/Gaff would make Mavs thin again at the forward positions. Do we really want to go 5y backwards? Drafting Flagg softens losing Grimes a bit because it will give Mavs more depth again but salary cap is going to become a huge problem really fast.

Yeah. I think Gaff is the obvious odd man out and PJ would only go in a package with him if a star is coming back in return.

KD is most likely out of the question now so moving Gaff and maybe Omax to yield a playmaking PG makes the most sense to me.

With the health of Lively and AD the Mavs would need another backup 5 that is better than Kai Jones. Cooper makes PJ redundant in my opinion but if they do keep him and can find a backup up 5 to replace Gafford then that would be fine. If they trade Gafford though without replacing him then be prepared to see A LOT of Dwight Powell.

Here is the cap situation for Mavs. Once they sign Flagg, resign AD and if Kyrie doesn't waive his player option and resigns for more, they'll already have ZERO wiggle room. But if Kyrie signs for more then Mavs are going to be even more screwed.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/dallas-mavericks/cap/_/year/2024/sort/cap_total

[Michaellam1987]

Our cap is becoming very tight. Few things we need to do.

1) Find teams to absorb our redundant players (Hardy/Omax/Powell), target for minor future assets coming back if possible
2) Talk and persuade Irving to opts out, and resign on 3 years, with lower per year number
3) Keep Max/Lively as they are really of the same age range as Flagg for 3 of them to develop together
4) Use some of Klay/PJ/Gafford/Marshall/Martin combination for talent consolidation and upgrade, on the PG/SG position.

[HMFFL]

Our cap is becoming very tight. Few things we need to do.

1) Find teams to absorb our redundant players (Hardy/Omax/Powell), target for minor future assets coming back if possible
2) Talk and persuade Irving to opts out, and resign on 3 years, with lower per year number
3) Keep Max/Lively as they are really of the same age range as Flagg for 3 of them to develop together
4) Use some of Klay/PJ/Gafford/Marshall/Martin combination for talent consolidation and upgrade, on the PG/SG position.

PJ is a must go for me.
I have never been able to trust his style of play consistency.

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[Michaellam1987]

Our cap is becoming very tight. Few things we need to do.

1) Find teams to absorb our redundant players (Hardy/Omax/Powell), target for minor future assets coming back if possible
2) Talk and persuade Irving to opts out, and resign on 3 years, with lower per year number
3) Keep Max/Lively as they are really of the same age range as Flagg for 3 of them to develop together
4) Use some of Klay/PJ/Gafford/Marshall/Martin combination for talent consolidation and upgrade, on the PG/SG position.

PJ is a must go for me.
I have never been able to trust his style of play consistency.

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I do love PJ and Gafford, but they will both under the last year of the contract. It is very difficult to resign them on the deal with the number that they want. Klay is the only reliable shooter on the team, Marshall/Martin both still have 3 years remaining with reasonable salary per year (I do believe Martin will perform better, and rebuild his value). Hence, I would rather try to use PJ/Gafford during trade talk first.

[Mr B]

Yeah. I think Gaff is the obvious odd man out and PJ would only go in a package with him if a star is coming back in return.

KD is most likely out of the question now so moving Gaff and maybe Omax to yield a playmaking PG makes the most sense to me.

With the health of Lively and AD the Mavs would need another backup 5 that is better than Kai Jones. Cooper makes PJ redundant in my opinion but if they do keep him and can find a backup up 5 to replace Gafford then that would be fine. If they trade Gafford though without replacing him then be prepared to see A LOT of Dwight Powell.

Here is the cap situation for Mavs. Once they sign Flagg, resign AD and if Kyrie doesn't waive his player option and resigns for more, they'll already have ZERO wiggle room. But if Kyrie signs for more then Mavs are going to be even more screwed.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/dallas-mavericks/cap/_/year/2024/sort/cap_total

I wasn’t sure how the salaries would work out. I’m not going to pretend to know what I’m talking about when it comes to the cap or first apron or second apron. I’ll take your word for it when it comes to that. So if they can’t afford Gafford and have to trade him hopefully they can get good return. He’s scheduled to make $14M. There are a handful of guards that match his salary that could be had in trade.

[arkuo]

I read this somewhere. But if Dallas is looking to trim salary and not go over the apron or whatever it's called, then how about exploring trading within the draft board. Send Gafford to Chicago for #12 and draft Jakucionis there. Trims payroll and get you a big point guard. Bulls need a center. Jakucionis on a rookie deal fills the need for a playmaker and does not eat into the cap as much as Gaff needing $25M per year on his new contract.

[Darren]

Getting Flagg changes things for the Mavs, the lineup etc.

PJ for Herb Jones, who says no?

I think the Mavs revisit a Herb Jones trade in a 3-way trade where Pelican gets Reaves. I think Reaves is overrated. I'd rather have Herb Jones coming back.

[Darren]

I am opened to keep Gafford until February deadline, though. The Mavs should avoid selling low on any Gafford & PJ trade.

[daoneandonly]

Dallas should trade into/buy a second-round pick and get Tyrese Proctor. I'm not saying he's Brunson, but he has that instinct and winning mentality, and has a proven chemistry with Flagg

[arkuo]

Celtics are said to be shopping Jaylen Brown as having 2 supermax players on the team is prohibitive.

[Archx]

Celtics are said to be shopping Jaylen Brown as having 2 supermax players on the team is prohibitive.

It's just that one is insanely expensive and the other will be out full year probably. Mavs might also soon have 2 max player with Kyrie/AD. Depends what Kyries does, he has a player option.