Nebuchadnezzar wrote:Basketball_Jones wrote:Nebuchadnezzar wrote:If you watch the press conference with Tyrese Halliburton and Pascal, you can really see that Tyrese respects Pascal, and is open to his guidance.
I think a common narrative was that Pascal was selfish and didn't fit in with Scottie. I'm beginning to think that perhaps Scottie didn't respect Pascal enough, and wasn't open to his guidance in the same way that Tyrese is.
So perhaps we've been asking the wrong questions. Maybe the real point is that Pascal is great with young players, and it's one of the central reasons the Pacers are in the Eastern Conference finals for the second year in a row.
Maybe Scottie needs to learn to take feedback? Perhaps if he did, then. Scottie would have been a better player and our team with both Scottie and Pascal would be excelling right now?
https://youtu.be/PuVR4wPnfeg?si=cOKX0CLrF4zbns0g
I think Scottie in general is just young and stubborn. Nothing to do with not respecting Pascal or whoever. He and Yak were pretty open to the idea of throwing games this season as long as they were on the floor, so there’s a sense of cohesive cooperation there. Though now they gotta be wondering what the hell was that for with the 9th pick lol. Next season should be interesting and I expect Scottie and Yak to be more serious about winning.
Sure he is - but we are also seeing Pascal mentor this team of young guys who aren't stubborn, and is doing an amazing job. Scottie and Pascal did not get along well. Scottie might have been open to tanking, but does he take feedback on his game from vets? I'm not so sure - If you need other examples, their is the Thad incident, and look at how well Fred has done with Houston and their young guys.....He and Scottie definitely had beef, and it didn't seem like Scottie listened to him either.
Fred and pascal were bad teammates. The raptor media was conspiring to sabotage scotty when they alluded to his immaturity.
The scotty cult twisted themselves into knots of all sorts of motivated reasoning to maintain their delusion.
It was an occam's razor thing: the simple explanation was that scotty was kinda childish, lazy and lacked humility. Much simpler than "30 year vet beater, Doug Smith, decides to suddenly become a villainous sabotager of 19 year old raptor player after more than 3 decades of mutually friendly relations with the team". Lol
Remember Pascal storming off the court this season after scotty demonstratively celebrated in his face? At the time I kinda liked scotty's competitiveness.....but now that I look back on it....I think it exemplified a bad dynamic between them. When does a guy like Pascal storm off the floor without handshakes and interactions? I think that interaction kinda speaks volumes. You don't typically see something like that given the context unless there's friction.
Fact is....this a particularly rough time for toxic TWO haters. Fred and pascal have both thrived in leadership roles and both WAYYYYY more successful on their new teams than all the haters predicted. I highly recommend revisiting the thread that announced the rockets signing Fred to remember what ppl claimed was in store for Houston lol. Good times.
Add that to the fact that the bottom 4 tank teams this season didn't get a single top 3 pick between them lol.
Add to the fact that all the "give the keys to scotty" and "scotty is being held back" spin has never looked more ridiculous than it does now in light of his 4th season performance.
They are taking it on the chin from multiple angles. Well deserved.
