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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#121 » by Dalek » Wed May 14, 2025 4:46 pm

Raptorfan2012 wrote:I think whomever we pick will be thrusted into the bench mob aka probably won't be spending much time in the G-League. Raptors are going to try to win next season, so less time trying to develop. As such, I think NBA-ready is going to be an important characteristic.

There are 3 main positions we need to fill:

- Back up big: Maluach if he is available at 9. If not, there are several back up big potentials in the 2nd round such as Ryan Kalkbrenner, Rocco Zikarsky, Hansen Yang, Maxime Rynaud, Alex Condon etc.

- 3-D wing: A position we have sorely missed since trading OG. Carter Bryant will be a great fit here but I wonder how NBA-ready he is. Fleming and Coward may be another option (probably more NBA ready). Not so sure about guys like Riley, Essengue, or McNeeley.

- Back up PG: I think this is one is less of a priority as we already have Quickley and Shead, but there is a possibility the Raptors want more of a field general at the lead guard spot. I can see a possibility we entertain drafting guys like Kasp or Traore with the 9th pick, or maybe pick one up with our 39th pick like Proctor, Pettiford, Fland, Philon etc.


I agree with the areas of need. Good summary.

- Back up big: At the top of my list is Danny Wolf. He might be a stretch at 9, but he won't be available at pick 39 so I still take him lotto. To me, he is a 7ft quick processor, can handle like Hedo in pick and roll and can shoot it a bit, so he brings a ton of offensive versatility. He has legit C size and above average mobility and coordination. He also is play now and won't take two years to develop like KM. What stands out to me is at Yale he was more of a traditional big and then he went point-C at Michigan. That shows real role versatility. He is just scratching the surface of his potential IMO.

- 3-D wing: I'd look to the second round for this option. Top of my board for guys likely to be available at 39 is Micah Peavy. Really outstanding defender and his shooting has really improved. He is a senior but he was a top scorer for his team while also being an elite defender. Gives me some Brogdon vibes given his development path and intelligence. Undrafted route and to just get into our system, I love Jahmyl Telfort from Butler. He is built well at 6'7 shot 36% and just is a tough. He's a Montreal kid too.

- Back-up PG: I'd look to the undrafted market for this. My top guy for a two-way deal is Aurora legend Ryan Nembhard. He'll be great with the 905 and play with other CanBall types like AJ Lawson.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#122 » by Tofubeque » Wed May 14, 2025 4:52 pm

As Edey showed last year, the idea that big centres won’t go in the lottery anymore is overstated. When the perimeter talent all seems questionable, teams like the idea of locking up size long term. We’ll be seeing Gobert, Hartenstein/Holmgren, Turner, and Towns/Robinson play in the conference finals while Sengun and Sabonis got bounced by the 1st round.
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Post#124 » by Indeed » Wed May 14, 2025 4:54 pm

Tofubeque wrote:As Edey showed last year, the idea that big centres won’t go in the lottery anymore is overstated. When the perimeter talent all seems questionable, teams like the idea of locking up size long term. We’ll be seeing Gobert, Hartenstein/Holmgren, Turner, and Towns/Robinson play in the conference finals while Sengun and Sabonis got bounced by the 1st round.


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Post#125 » by BoyzNTheHood » Wed May 14, 2025 4:55 pm

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Post#126 » by Psubs » Wed May 14, 2025 4:57 pm

I think Alanta is the trade partner. #9 for #13 and #22.

Atlanta lets Capela walk and need a pairing with Okongwu, probably the bigger Maluach or if gone, then Queen.

PG Trae - Daniels
SG Daniels - Kreji - Mann
SF Risacher - Niang
PF JalenJohson - Okongwu
C Okongwu - Maluach

Raptors draft Rasheer Fleming at #13 and hope that Carter Bryant's shooting off the dribble drill has other more dynamic player drafted ahead of him and available at #22.

Maybe Orlando wants Walter Clayton Jr but doesn't want to reach at #16. I guess they have #25 to pick up Condon (keep in Florida).

#22, #39 and Ochai Agbaji for #16, #46 and Goga Bitadze?

So #16 draft Carter Bryant. #46 BPA and hope for the best like Shead.

PG IQ - Shead - Ja'Kobe
SG Barrett - Ja'Kobe - Lawson
SF Ingram - Dick - Battle
PF Scottie - Mogbo/Fleming - Bryant
C Poeltl - Bitadze - Chomche

Very crowded so trade for KD. RJ, Dick, Poeltl and #46 for KD and Richards


PG IQ - Shead - Ja'Kobe
SG Ingram - Ja'Kobe - Lawson
SF KD - Mogbo/Battle - Bryant
PF Scottie - Fleming - Bryant
C Bitadze/Richards - Chomche
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Post#127 » by PhilBlackson » Wed May 14, 2025 4:57 pm

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#128 » by NoBias » Wed May 14, 2025 5:03 pm

I like Fleming a lot. Can shoot, and is physical. Can be a great wing in the NBA.
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Post#129 » by Psubs » Wed May 14, 2025 5:03 pm

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Raptorfan2012 wrote:I think whomever we pick will be thrusted into the bench mob aka probably won't be spending much time in the G-League. Raptors are going to try to win next season, so less time trying to develop. As such, I think NBA-ready is going to be an important characteristic.

There are 3 main positions we need to fill:

- Back up big: Maluach if he is available at 9. If not, there are several back up big potentials in the 2nd round such as Ryan Kalkbrenner, Rocco Zikarsky, Hansen Yang, Maxime Rynaud, Alex Condon etc.

- 3-D wing: A position we have sorely missed since trading OG. Carter Bryant will be a great fit here but I wonder how NBA-ready he is. Fleming and Coward may be another option (probably more NBA ready). Not so sure about guys like Riley, Essengue, or McNeeley.

- Back up PG: I think this is one is less of a priority as we already have Quickley and Shead, but there is a possibility the Raptors want more of a field general at the lead guard spot. I can see a possibility we entertain drafting guys like Kasp or Traore with the 9th pick, or maybe pick one up with our 39th pick like Proctor, Pettiford, Fland, Philon etc.


I agree with the areas of need. Good summary.

- Back up big: At the top of my list is Danny Wolf. He might be a stretch at 9, but he won't be available at pick 39 so I still take him lotto. To me, he is a 7ft quick processor, can handle like Hedo in pick and roll and can shoot it a bit, so he brings a ton of offensive versatility. He has legit C size and above average mobility and coordination. He also is play now and won't take two years to develop like KM. What stands out to me is at Yale he was more of a traditional big and then he went point-C at Michigan. That shows real role versatility. He is just scratching the surface of his potential IMO.

- 3-D wing: I'd look to the second round for this option. Top of my board for guys likely to be available at 39 is Micah Peavy. Really outstanding defender and his shooting has really improved. He is a senior but he was a top scorer for his team while also being an elite defender. Gives me some Brogdon vibes given his development path and intelligence. Undrafted route and to just get into our system, I love Jahmyl Telfort from Butler. He is built well at 6'7 shot 36% and just is a tough. He's a Montreal kid too.

- Back-up PG: I'd look to the undrafted market for this. My top guy for a two-way deal is Aurora legend Ryan Nembhard. He'll be great with the 905 and play with other CanBall types like AJ Lawson.


Hedo was 6'10 so 7ft Hedo is a good comp for Wolf, but still wouldn't want to draft him.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#130 » by mtcan » Wed May 14, 2025 5:10 pm

At 9, KM makes a lot of sense.

Fleming is a close second at this moment.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#131 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed May 14, 2025 5:11 pm

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Post#132 » by Psubs » Wed May 14, 2025 5:19 pm

NoBias wrote:I like Fleming a lot. Can shoot, and is physical. Can be a great wing in the NBA.


Good kid, hard-worker. Crazy over 6'9 and over 7'5 wingspan!!!
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#133 » by Rapsfan07 » Wed May 14, 2025 5:19 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:kasparas jakucionis could have the same type of year that JKW had where they started off strong and tapered off in 2nd half of year due to injury

6'6" with shoes
6'8" wingspan
35" max vert

I know the defense is a little suspect but this team desperately needs a creator at the top and get into the lane


If we stay at #9, I think this is the kind of player I'd want to take a chance on. He's at the top of my list followed by Fleming and Coward but I'm hoping we can acquire a later pick to grab one of those guys.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#134 » by Psubs » Wed May 14, 2025 5:21 pm

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I'm glad he's not doing that well at the combine. Trade down get 2 picks and take him with the latter. :nod:
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#135 » by Dalek » Wed May 14, 2025 5:22 pm

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Raptorfan2012 wrote:I think whomever we pick will be thrusted into the bench mob aka probably won't be spending much time in the G-League. Raptors are going to try to win next season, so less time trying to develop. As such, I think NBA-ready is going to be an important characteristic.

There are 3 main positions we need to fill:

- Back up big: Maluach if he is available at 9. If not, there are several back up big potentials in the 2nd round such as Ryan Kalkbrenner, Rocco Zikarsky, Hansen Yang, Maxime Rynaud, Alex Condon etc.

- 3-D wing: A position we have sorely missed since trading OG. Carter Bryant will be a great fit here but I wonder how NBA-ready he is. Fleming and Coward may be another option (probably more NBA ready). Not so sure about guys like Riley, Essengue, or McNeeley.

- Back up PG: I think this is one is less of a priority as we already have Quickley and Shead, but there is a possibility the Raptors want more of a field general at the lead guard spot. I can see a possibility we entertain drafting guys like Kasp or Traore with the 9th pick, or maybe pick one up with our 39th pick like Proctor, Pettiford, Fland, Philon etc.


I agree with the areas of need. Good summary.

- Back up big: At the top of my list is Danny Wolf. He might be a stretch at 9, but he won't be available at pick 39 so I still take him lotto. To me, he is a 7ft quick processor, can handle like Hedo in pick and roll and can shoot it a bit, so he brings a ton of offensive versatility. He has legit C size and above average mobility and coordination. He also is play now and won't take two years to develop like KM. What stands out to me is at Yale he was more of a traditional big and then he went point-C at Michigan. That shows real role versatility. He is just scratching the surface of his potential IMO.

- 3-D wing: I'd look to the second round for this option. Top of my board for guys likely to be available at 39 is Micah Peavy. Really outstanding defender and his shooting has really improved. He is a senior but he was a top scorer for his team while also being an elite defender. Gives me some Brogdon vibes given his development path and intelligence. Undrafted route and to just get into our system, I love Jahmyl Telfort from Butler. He is built well at 6'7 shot 36% and just is a tough. He's a Montreal kid too.

- Back-up PG: I'd look to the undrafted market for this. My top guy for a two-way deal is Aurora legend Ryan Nembhard. He'll be great with the 905 and play with other CanBall types like AJ Lawson.


Hedo was 6'10 so 7ft Hedo is a good comp for Wolf, but still wouldn't want to draft him.


What makes Danny Wolf a no-draft for you? Just curious because his defensive numbers are solid and he rebounds well too. I am having a hard time on his downside other than being a junior.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#136 » by Rapsfan07 » Wed May 14, 2025 5:22 pm

Johnston wrote:I could see Masai taking Noa Essengue at 9.



I sure hope not. There are will be high ceiling and high floor players available.

This is a fireable offense IMO.
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Post#137 » by Psubs » Wed May 14, 2025 5:22 pm

Rapsfan07 wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:kasparas jakucionis could have the same type of year that JKW had where they started off strong and tapered off in 2nd half of year due to injury

6'6" with shoes
6'8" wingspan
35" max vert

I know the defense is a little suspect but this team desperately needs a creator at the top and get into the lane


If we stay at #9, I think this is the kind of player I'd want to take a chance on. He's at the top of my list followed by Fleming and Coward but I'm hoping we can acquire a later pick to grab one of those guys.


I just don't see him taking minutes from Walter/Shead. Coward may be a good bench scoring option right now and make take a while to get PT like Aaron Nesmith. A team like Brooklyn should take Coward with one of their picks in the 20's.
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Post#138 » by Psubs » Wed May 14, 2025 5:25 pm

Dalek wrote:What makes Danny Wolf a no-draft for you? Just curious because his defensive numbers are solid and he rebounds well too. I am having a hard time on his downside other than being a junior.


I just don't see him being a starting PF nor a starting C on a contender. I see him as a bench PF/C in a playoff rotation playing 24-30mpg.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#139 » by DreamTeam09 » Wed May 14, 2025 5:26 pm

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How, all fair options, all fit a need, those are pretty rational from a fanbase perspective actually lol
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Post#140 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed May 14, 2025 5:28 pm

Rapsfan07 wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:kasparas jakucionis could have the same type of year that JKW had where they started off strong and tapered off in 2nd half of year due to injury

6'6" with shoes
6'8" wingspan
35" max vert

I know the defense is a little suspect but this team desperately needs a creator at the top and get into the lane


If we stay at #9, I think this is the kind of player I'd want to take a chance on. He's at the top of my list followed by Fleming and Coward but I'm hoping we can acquire a later pick to grab one of those guys.


Couldnt agree more. Whats your thoughts on Traore

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