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DreamTeam09 wrote:Rapsfan07 wrote:Johnston wrote:I could see Masai taking Noa Essengue at 9.
I sure hope not. There are will be high ceiling and high floor players available.
This is a fireable offense IMO.
??? lol how on earth can you say that's a fireable offense, no1 at 9 is a sure-fire stud, everyone has their pros n cons? What makes you Nostradamus here
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
DreamTeam09 wrote:WuTang_OG wrote:DreamTeam09 wrote:
JKW was unanimously BPA
GD we knew long before as he was high on our board because we needed a shooter
Even going back to Flynn, we needed a PG and took the last 1st round potential PG
When's the last time we went against the grain with a 1st even the Suggs vs Barnes debate, it was one of the other,
GD and JKW were rarely mentioned in these draft threads the last 2 years because they were mocked much earlier.
That's just proving my point, we haven't been taking these "risks" / "out of no where" prospects as of late
Rapsfan07 wrote:WuTang_OG wrote:?s=46&t=0YpMScWXY2zRUqR8fH-usg
Don't understand why people like him over Coward.
Rapsfan07 wrote:WuTang_OG wrote:Rapsfan07 wrote:
If we stay at #9, I think this is the kind of player I'd want to take a chance on. He's at the top of my list followed by Fleming and Coward but I'm hoping we can acquire a later pick to grab one of those guys.
Couldnt agree more. Whats your thoughts on Traore
I'm warming up.
I was super high on him this time last year. I thought for sure he would have been a Top 5 player but things didn't really shake his way.
I'm worried about his shooting and his right hand dominance but he gets to the basket with good ease, super quick which I like and passes the ball well.
The question I ask myself is if the player we draft never improves, is he still going to be at least serviceable? I'm not sure about that with him. With guys like Fleming, Coward or even Kasp for example, worst comes to worst we should be able to get at least some bench production. Can we say the same about Traore? I'm not sure.
niQ wrote:On a lighter note, it's kind of funny seeing both Philly and Hornets fans dreading the idea of drafting Ace.
WuTang_OG wrote:niQ wrote:On a lighter note, it's kind of funny seeing both Philly and Hornets fans dreading the idea of drafting Ace.
Funny how when you draft at the top you are kind of stuck into taking prospects
WuTang_OG wrote:Rapsfan07 wrote:WuTang_OG wrote:
Couldnt agree more. Whats your thoughts on Traore
I'm warming up.
I was super high on him this time last year. I thought for sure he would have been a Top 5 player but things didn't really shake his way.
I'm worried about his shooting and his right hand dominance but he gets to the basket with good ease, super quick which I like and passes the ball well.
The question I ask myself is if the player we draft never improves, is he still going to be at least serviceable? I'm not sure about that with him. With guys like Fleming, Coward or even Kasp for example, worst comes to worst we should be able to get at least some bench production. Can we say the same about Traore? I'm not sure.
My issues is definitely the shooting and lack of defense. I have Jak ranked higher.
niQ wrote:
CMB is probably the one I'm most wary of drafting. "They're just everything I feel like I can fit into." Fit into where? We have Barnes and Mogbo...
Rapsfan07 wrote:niQ wrote:
CMB is probably the one I'm most wary of drafting. "They're just everything I feel like I can fit into." Fit into where? We have Barnes and Mogbo...
Agreed but he's gotta say that right? He's still trying to get drafted at the end of the day.
But yeah, I've never liked CMB. Unless there's something I'm not seeing with him, he projects to be a tweener that's too small to play full time C but doesn't shoot well enough to play on the perimeter.
I'm thinking Kidd-Gilchrist ish and we saw how that worked out.
Super hard pass for me.
niQ wrote:Rapsfan07 wrote:niQ wrote:
CMB is probably the one I'm most wary of drafting. "They're just everything I feel like I can fit into." Fit into where? We have Barnes and Mogbo...
Agreed but he's gotta say that right? He's still trying to get drafted at the end of the day.
But yeah, I've never liked CMB. Unless there's something I'm not seeing with him, he projects to be a tweener that's too small to play full time C but doesn't shoot well enough to play on the perimeter.
I'm thinking Kidd-Gilchrist ish and we saw how that worked out.
Super hard pass for me.
I hope he says that line to every team he interviews with.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
"Coward has helped himself more than anyone in Chicago," Finkelstein said Tuesday, via the 247Sports College Basketball Show. "This is bad news for Duke. Sorry to break it, but Cedric Coward has some serious buzz. He went into the portal and committed to the Blue Devils, but he is trending towards becoming a first-round pick. The decision-making looks like it could be flipping. Coward had terrific measurements. He measured 6-foot-5.25 without shoes and 213 pounds with a 7-foot-2 wingspan. Absolutely off the charts. Huge hands. He started as a Division III player at Eastern Washington State, and now it's either Duke or the NBA. Right now, it looks like the NBA may be the favorite."
Coward is ranked as the No. 2 shooting guard and No. 23 overall player in the transfer portal. He averaged 17.7 points, 7.0 rebounds, 3.7 assists and 1.7 blocks at Washington State last season and is poised to start at Duke next season should he return to college basketball.
"It felt like Coward didn't miss a shot during today's drills," national basketball analyst Isaac Trotter added. "He has the measurables, the ability to shoot it, and the defensive upside. He's also going to interview extremely well. He's a well-spoken kid who's had a really interesting path here. I'm not saying anything new by saying he might be playing his way into the first round. However, Duke has a lot on the line. Isaiah Evans is going to go back to Duke for his sophomore season. Caleb Foster, Isaiah Evans, Cam, Boozer, Maliq Brown and Patrick Ngbonga are there, but we start to talk about Duke as a top-five team in the country if they can get Cedric Coward back. But, that's going to be a bigger challenge than initially expected.
WuTang_OG wrote:
"Coward has helped himself more than anyone in Chicago," Finkelstein said Tuesday, via the 247Sports College Basketball Show. "This is bad news for Duke. Sorry to break it, but Cedric Coward has some serious buzz. He went into the portal and committed to the Blue Devils, but he is trending towards becoming a first-round pick. The decision-making looks like it could be flipping. Coward had terrific measurements. He measured 6-foot-5.25 without shoes and 213 pounds with a 7-foot-2 wingspan. Absolutely off the charts. Huge hands. He started as a Division III player at Eastern Washington State, and now it's either Duke or the NBA. Right now, it looks like the NBA may be the favorite."
Coward is ranked as the No. 2 shooting guard and No. 23 overall player in the transfer portal. He averaged 17.7 points, 7.0 rebounds, 3.7 assists and 1.7 blocks at Washington State last season and is poised to start at Duke next season should he return to college basketball.
"It felt like Coward didn't miss a shot during today's drills," national basketball analyst Isaac Trotter added. "He has the measurables, the ability to shoot it, and the defensive upside. He's also going to interview extremely well. He's a well-spoken kid who's had a really interesting path here. I'm not saying anything new by saying he might be playing his way into the first round. However, Duke has a lot on the line. Isaiah Evans is going to go back to Duke for his sophomore season. Caleb Foster, Isaiah Evans, Cam, Boozer, Maliq Brown and Patrick Ngbonga are there, but we start to talk about Duke as a top-five team in the country if they can get Cedric Coward back. But, that's going to be a bigger challenge than initially expected.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
Rapsfan07 wrote:Dalek wrote:Raptorfan2012 wrote:I think whomever we pick will be thrusted into the bench mob aka probably won't be spending much time in the G-League. Raptors are going to try to win next season, so less time trying to develop. As such, I think NBA-ready is going to be an important characteristic.
There are 3 main positions we need to fill:
- Back up big: Maluach if he is available at 9. If not, there are several back up big potentials in the 2nd round such as Ryan Kalkbrenner, Rocco Zikarsky, Hansen Yang, Maxime Rynaud, Alex Condon etc.
- 3-D wing: A position we have sorely missed since trading OG. Carter Bryant will be a great fit here but I wonder how NBA-ready he is. Fleming and Coward may be another option (probably more NBA ready). Not so sure about guys like Riley, Essengue, or McNeeley.
- Back up PG: I think this is one is less of a priority as we already have Quickley and Shead, but there is a possibility the Raptors want more of a field general at the lead guard spot. I can see a possibility we entertain drafting guys like Kasp or Traore with the 9th pick, or maybe pick one up with our 39th pick like Proctor, Pettiford, Fland, Philon etc.
I agree with the areas of need. Good summary.
- Back up big: At the top of my list is Danny Wolf. He might be a stretch at 9, but he won't be available at pick 39 so I still take him lotto. To me, he is a 7ft quick processor, can handle like Hedo in pick and roll and can shoot it a bit, so he brings a ton of offensive versatility. He has legit C size and above average mobility and coordination. He also is play now and won't take two years to develop like KM. What stands out to me is at Yale he was more of a traditional big and then he went point-C at Michigan. That shows real role versatility. He is just scratching the surface of his potential IMO.
- 3-D wing: I'd look to the second round for this option. Top of my board for guys likely to be available at 39 is Micah Peavy. Really outstanding defender and his shooting has really improved. He is a senior but he was a top scorer for his team while also being an elite defender. Gives me some Brogdon vibes given his development path and intelligence. Undrafted route and to just get into our system, I love Jahmyl Telfort from Butler. He is built well at 6'7 shot 36% and just is a tough. He's a Montreal kid too.
- Back-up PG: I'd look to the undrafted market for this. My top guy for a two-way deal is Aurora legend Ryan Nembhard. He'll be great with the 905 and play with other CanBall types like AJ Lawson.
Danny Wolf at #9? That's brutal man, I'm not gonna lie.
niQ wrote:
CMB is probably the one I'm most wary of drafting. "They're just everything I feel like I can fit into." Fit into where? We have Barnes and Mogbo...
Yallbecrazy wrote:niQ wrote:
CMB is probably the one I'm most wary of drafting. "They're just everything I feel like I can fit into." Fit into where? We have Barnes and Mogbo...
He can play 20-25 minutes a game as a rookie, doubt anyone else we draft can do that. Poeltl plays 30 minutes, Scottie plays 36. That leaves 30 minutes at the 4/5 which he can fit into. He can't play with both, but can with one or the other. He is best in class in terms of providing rebounding which no one on our team can do and quick decision making that Darko's system requires.