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[STEIN]: Hawks have expressed interest in trying to hire Masai Ujiri away from Toronto

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Re: [STEIN]: Hawks have expressed interest in trying to hire Masai Ujiri away from Toronto 

Post#21 » by DelAbbot » Thu May 15, 2025 1:58 am

I was going to make some stupid comment about Masai not earning his paycheck since 2021, but the racism in this thread has shocked me straight
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Post#22 » by ForeverTFC » Thu May 15, 2025 2:08 am

Have to imagine Masai has done enough and made enough money that the Atlanta job is not what he’s going to go after, even if he’s on the way out here.
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Post#23 » by Tor_Raps » Thu May 15, 2025 2:22 am

Masai has been very bad since 2021 but has already shown signs to reverting back to what made him great originally. There isn't anyone we could get better for the role so I really hope we lock him up longterm.

Ed Rogers scares me with his stupidity though, he probably wants someone like Mark Shapiro.
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Post#24 » by Clutch0z24 » Thu May 15, 2025 2:26 am

I have feeling this will be Masai last year here....Gut feeling....Masai has been the best GM we ever had so it would be tough to see him go....But i just have a feeling change is coming soon...
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Post#25 » by Naysorn » Thu May 15, 2025 2:28 am

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Post#26 » by Tripod » Thu May 15, 2025 2:46 am

This is why Masai is gonna swing a big deal.

Adds a big name...harder to not re-sign.
And if they don't, he shows everyone Kawhi was not a fluke. And if he overpay, won't be around for the fallout.

It's why he should be signed ASAP. Tie his future to his moves.
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Post#27 » by WaltFrazier » Thu May 15, 2025 2:59 am

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WuTang_OG wrote:I read the article. Not much there.

Atlanta has been striking out for weeks. They wanted Bob Myers and he declined. This is the same thing Washington did. Put it out there to see if Masai will bite. That's all this is.

Masai has 1 year left. They better lock him up


Curious why Bob Myers turned it down.


I don't know, but often a TV job is easier, great money without the pressure
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Re: [STEIN]: Hawks have expressed interest in trying to hire Masai Ujiri away from Toronto 

Post#28 » by TorontoBarneys » Thu May 15, 2025 3:00 am

They should do it. I want to see this board melt down over it.
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Post#29 » by WaltFrazier » Thu May 15, 2025 3:04 am

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Masai looked glum and disengaged at the lottery. Also kind of out of place as the only heavy hitter representing his team, among young players and retired players.

None of which means much, I know. Just my impression
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Post#30 » by djsunyc » Thu May 15, 2025 3:05 am

Naysorn wrote:
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who is this roody poo? your cousin or something lol
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Post#31 » by Raptors Realtor » Thu May 15, 2025 3:22 am

Westside Gunn wrote:ATL is the black wall street. Masai should definitely go if given the chance. Build something bright in ATL


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Post#32 » by Raptors Realtor » Thu May 15, 2025 3:26 am

TorontoBarneys wrote:They should do it. I want to see this board melt down over it.


Ya that makes a lot of sense... Let's get rid of one of the best execs in the league, not to mention one who is currently employed by the team you are a passionate fan of, out of spite...

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Post#33 » by carlosey » Thu May 15, 2025 3:33 am

Tripod wrote:This is why Masai is gonna swing a big deal.

Adds a big name...harder to not re-sign.
And if they don't, he shows everyone Kawhi was not a fluke. And if he overpay, won't be around for the fallout.

It's why he should be signed ASAP. Tie his future to his moves.


Definitely. He's going for a big name.
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Re: [STEIN]: Hawks have expressed interest in trying to hire Masai Ujiri away from Toronto 

Post#34 » by CPT » Thu May 15, 2025 3:46 am

I kind of think Masai deserves to be fired (or not offered another, even more lucrative, extension) based on the last 5 years, but I’d still probably take him over MLSE’s next choice. You could also easily argue he deserves a chance to redeem himself. I don’t think you can argue the last 5 years have been good.

I like the idea of having that organizational stability, and while we haven’t found it in a coach yet, if we can get it from leadership, we probably should.
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Post#35 » by Godaddycurse » Thu May 15, 2025 3:57 am

Those whose been complaining about the last few years need to take a step back and look at the decades of despair we had before masai.
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Post#36 » by Raptors Realtor » Thu May 15, 2025 3:59 am

CPT wrote:I kind of think Masai deserves to be fired (or not offered another, even more lucrative, extension) based on the last 5 years, but I’d still probably take him over MLSE’s next choice. You could also easily argue he deserves a chance to redeem himself. I don’t think you can argue the last 5 years have been good.

I like the idea of having that organizational stability, and while we haven’t found it in a coach yet, if we can get it from leadership, we probably should.


No question he got complacent for a few years after winning the Championship, and had a hard time letting go of the players who were a part of that winning team, but I feel like he's back to being hungry again to improve this team, and he has been very active and done well with picks/trades over the past 18 months or so... I don't like the odds of us finding someone better than Masai, especially when he's on his game... There's a reason there's always rumors of other organizations being interested in Masai, he's one of the best in the biz.
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Post#37 » by Scase » Thu May 15, 2025 4:02 am

Tripod wrote:This is why Masai is gonna swing a big deal.

Adds a big name...harder to not re-sign.
And if they don't, he shows everyone Kawhi was not a fluke. And if he overpay, won't be around for the fallout.

It's why he should be signed ASAP. Tie his future to his moves.

And if he fails to do that, but they re-sign him, then what?

Realistically, holding any exec to a single big name signing is a pretty stupid reason to sign or not. Players usually head where they want to nowadays, not sure I would put that on execs.

CPT wrote:I kind of think Masai deserves to be fired (or not offered another, even more lucrative, extension) based on the last 5 years, but I’d still probably take him over MLSE’s next choice. You could also easily argue he deserves a chance to redeem himself. I don’t think you can argue the last 5 years have been good.

I like the idea of having that organizational stability, and while we haven’t found it in a coach yet, if we can get it from leadership, we probably should.


This is kinda where I'm at, I by no means think we should keep him because of the chicken littles out there thinking he's the only good exec in the entire world and no one out there could possibly do any better, but the consistency/stability is good to have. That said, he's been pretty awful the last 5 or so years, so not sure if that's the consistency we should want.
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Re: [STEIN]: Hawks have expressed interest in trying to hire Masai Ujiri away from Toronto 

Post#38 » by kalel123 » Thu May 15, 2025 4:02 am

Not gonna shed any tears if he's gone. He just hasn't been the same since the championship. Been asleep at the wheel for years. And despite some ok moves here and there that shows signs he might finally be waking up, the team is still not in a very good place.

Having said that.. Atlanta? Really? That whole organization is so mediocre that I wouldn't lose any sleep over losing him to them even if I wanted him to stay.
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Post#39 » by Raptors Realtor » Thu May 15, 2025 4:05 am

Scase wrote:
Tripod wrote:This is why Masai is gonna swing a big deal.

Adds a big name...harder to not re-sign.
And if they don't, he shows everyone Kawhi was not a fluke. And if he overpay, won't be around for the fallout.

It's why he should be signed ASAP. Tie his future to his moves.

And if he fails to do that, but they re-sign him, then what?

Realistically, holding any exec to a single big name signing is a pretty stupid reason to sign or not. Players usually head where they want to nowadays, not sure I would put that on execs.

CPT wrote:I kind of think Masai deserves to be fired (or not offered another, even more lucrative, extension) based on the last 5 years, but I’d still probably take him over MLSE’s next choice. You could also easily argue he deserves a chance to redeem himself. I don’t think you can argue the last 5 years have been good.

I like the idea of having that organizational stability, and while we haven’t found it in a coach yet, if we can get it from leadership, we probably should.


This is kinda where I'm at, I by no means think we should keep him because of the chicken littles out there thinking he's the only good exec in the entire world and no one out there could possibly do any better, but the consistency/stability is good to have. That said, he's been pretty awful the last 5 or so years, so not sure if that's the consistency we should want.


Whenever I hear someone who's indifferent or think we should fire/let Masai walk, I always ask, who would you replace him with? And so far, everytime, it's crickets... So who would you replace him with that isn't currently employed by another team, or at least realistically obtainable, that you are confident would do a better job?
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Re: [STEIN]: Hawks have expressed interest in trying to hire Masai Ujiri away from Toronto 

Post#40 » by Randle McMurphy » Thu May 15, 2025 4:16 am

Masai probably leaking this to get an extension. Expect more where that came from.

Ed can’t buy into it; MU needs to go.
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