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Re: Timberwolves vs Warriors - Game 5 - Cancun time? 

Post#201 » by powerball1373 » Thu May 15, 2025 4:25 am

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Loon doesnt have the footspeed to hang with him consistently on the perimeter. It's always been wiggs/dray defending and switching onto randle. We no longer have a big wing defender, so randle and ant can do as they please.


S&T Kuminga to bring Wiggins back... who says no?

Probably the heat. But I would do that in a heartbeat. Seriously need someone like Wiggins who can guard ant or Randle


Supposedly the Heat have some interest in Kuminga. Idk how the Heat front office feels about Wiggs, but the fanbase is very down on him lol. I'm familiar with his time on the Warriors, so I know how good he can be in the right system.
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Post#202 » by DAWill1128 » Thu May 15, 2025 4:25 am

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DAWill1128 wrote:Still don't understand why they never put Looney on Randle and just let him continuously overpower smaller guys. How does a guy get a contract for guarding Sabonis so well and get zero time on Randle? Looneys minutes on Sengun is a significant reason we are in the 2nd round.


Randle presents a different challenge from Sengun. Sengun is more of the plodding type, which Looney can handle well. Randle may overpower the smaller guys, but he'd cook Looney on the perimeter, and with his speed. Just a tough matchup for the Warriors, and anyone really, when he's playing this well.


Yeah but the goal should be to make him put the ball on the deck and move laterally into the help defense. Instead he just backed guys down all series and had easy gimmees over the top.
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Post#203 » by Onus » Thu May 15, 2025 4:26 am

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I mean who are we saying isn’t an nba player?

Moody? Podz? Jk? Post? Santos? Tjd?

I’d say santos and tjd are borderline. Spencer probably isn’t.

The rest are just young and / or inexperienced. I mean you could say that for santos and tjd as well but they are seriously lacking in talent.
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Re: Timberwolves vs Warriors - Game 5 - Cancun time? 

Post#204 » by powerball1373 » Thu May 15, 2025 4:28 am

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I mean who are we saying isn’t an nba player?

Moody? Podz? Jk? Post? Santos? Tjd?

I’d say santos and tjd are borderline. Spencer probably isn’t.

The rest are just young and / or inexperienced. I mean you could say that for santos and tjd as well but they are seriously lacking in talent.


Nah it was more of a joke than anything. Spencer is the only one I'd consider a borderline/not NBA player.
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Post#205 » by Crazy-Canuck » Thu May 15, 2025 4:28 am

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Loon doesnt have the footspeed to hang with him consistently on the perimeter. It's always been wiggs/dray defending and switching onto randle. We no longer have a big wing defender, so randle and ant can do as they please.


S&T Kuminga to bring Wiggins back... who says no?

Probably the heat. But I would do that in a heartbeat. Seriously need someone like Wiggins who can guard ant or Randle


That was always my issue with getting Jimmy with Wiggins going out. We simply had no player to fill that void. Yes, Jimmy is much more talented, but not for that wing role that the dubs need. It's why I likes the rockets match up, because the lack of a wing defender was needed. Now we saw the glaring hole vs ant and randle. Dray also missed his wing synergy, be it wiggs or iggy. Regular season is one thing, but the playoffs are a different animal.
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Post#206 » by Onus » Thu May 15, 2025 4:29 am

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S&T Kuminga to bring Wiggins back... who says no?

Probably the heat. But I would do that in a heartbeat. Seriously need someone like Wiggins who can guard ant or Randle


Supposedly the Heat have some interest in Kuminga. Idk how the Heat front office feels about Wiggs, but the fanbase is very down on him lol. I'm familiar with his time on the Warriors, so I know how good he can be in the right system.

I do feel like a big wing that can shoot and play defense is probably the biggest missing piece.
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Post#207 » by Onus » Thu May 15, 2025 4:30 am

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S&T Kuminga to bring Wiggins back... who says no?

Probably the heat. But I would do that in a heartbeat. Seriously need someone like Wiggins who can guard ant or Randle


That was always my issue with getting Jimmy with Wiggins going out. We simply had no player to fill that void. Yes, Jimmy is much more talented, but not for that wing role that the dubs need. It's why I likes the rockets match up, because the lack of a wing defender was needed. Now we saw the glaring hole vs ant and randle. Dray also missed his wing synergy, be it wiggs or iggy. Regular season is one thing, but the playoffs are a different animal.

The shocking thing is Jimmy can’t do it.
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Post#208 » by DAWill1128 » Thu May 15, 2025 4:30 am

Onus wrote:
powerball1373 wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:
Loon doesnt have the footspeed to hang with him consistently on the perimeter. It's always been wiggs/dray defending and switching onto randle. We no longer have a big wing defender, so randle and ant can do as they please.


S&T Kuminga to bring Wiggins back... who says no?

Probably the heat. But I would do that in a heartbeat. Seriously need someone like Wiggins who can guard ant or Randle


Jimmy was asking out going into the season. Rumors were a deal centered around CP3 contract + Kuminga for Butler. Warriors did not want to pursue and focused on Paul George which fell through. Then near the deadline they traded Wiggins for Butler because we needed to include a large contract.
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Post#209 » by Old_Blue » Thu May 15, 2025 4:32 am

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I mean who are we saying isn’t an nba player?


This question makes it seem like it's Steph and a bunch of unqualified DEI hires out there. :noway:
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Jester_ wrote:Wiseman is the real deal. He's going to be our franchise player.
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Post#210 » by Onus » Thu May 15, 2025 4:32 am

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Onus wrote:
powerball1373 wrote:
S&T Kuminga to bring Wiggins back... who says no?

Probably the heat. But I would do that in a heartbeat. Seriously need someone like Wiggins who can guard ant or Randle


Jimmy was asking out going into the season. Rumors were a deal centered around CP3 contract + Kuminga for Butler. Warriors did not want to pursue and focused on Paul George which fell through. Then near the deadline they traded Wiggins for Butler because we needed to include a large contract.

I’d hope we’d look into it.

A curry/buddy/wiggins/jimmy/dray lineup is really intriguing.
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Re: Timberwolves vs Warriors - Game 5 - Cancun time? 

Post#211 » by Crazy-Canuck » Thu May 15, 2025 4:32 am

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powerball1373 wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:
Loon doesnt have the footspeed to hang with him consistently on the perimeter. It's always been wiggs/dray defending and switching onto randle. We no longer have a big wing defender, so randle and ant can do as they please.


S&T Kuminga to bring Wiggins back... who says no?

Probably the heat. But I would do that in a heartbeat. Seriously need someone like Wiggins who can guard ant or Randle


Heat fans would probably trade wiggins for Beal.
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Post#212 » by Onus » Thu May 15, 2025 4:33 am

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Onus wrote:
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S&T Kuminga to bring Wiggins back... who says no?

Probably the heat. But I would do that in a heartbeat. Seriously need someone like Wiggins who can guard ant or Randle


Heat fans would probably trade wiggins for Beal.

That’s crazy
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Post#213 » by Crazy-Canuck » Thu May 15, 2025 4:34 am

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Onus wrote:Probably the heat. But I would do that in a heartbeat. Seriously need someone like Wiggins who can guard ant or Randle


That was always my issue with getting Jimmy with Wiggins going out. We simply had no player to fill that void. Yes, Jimmy is much more talented, but not for that wing role that the dubs need. It's why I likes the rockets match up, because the lack of a wing defender was needed. Now we saw the glaring hole vs ant and randle. Dray also missed his wing synergy, be it wiggs or iggy. Regular season is one thing, but the playoffs are a different animal.

The shocking thing is Jimmy can’t do it.


It wasn't though. Anyone who actually watched Jimmy and not the nostalgic idea of playoff Jimmy from 3 years ago saw it. I warped on this alot, I think cdm did as well. He was always going to be a small ball 4 in our system.
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Post#214 » by Onus » Thu May 15, 2025 4:40 am

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That was always my issue with getting Jimmy with Wiggins going out. We simply had no player to fill that void. Yes, Jimmy is much more talented, but not for that wing role that the dubs need. It's why I likes the rockets match up, because the lack of a wing defender was needed. Now we saw the glaring hole vs ant and randle. Dray also missed his wing synergy, be it wiggs or iggy. Regular season is one thing, but the playoffs are a different animal.

The shocking thing is Jimmy can’t do it.


It wasn't though. Anyone who actually watched Jimmy and not the nostalgic idea of playoff Jimmy from 3 years ago saw it. I warped on this alot, I think cdm did as well. He was always going to be a small ball 4 in our system.

But he can’t even guard Randle. It’s not even guarding ant it’s guarding anyone that has size on him. He struggled against Paulo. He struggled against Gordon. He wanted no part of guarding Randle. How can he be a 4 when he can’t guard 4s.
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Post#215 » by cpower » Thu May 15, 2025 4:41 am

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Onus wrote:Probably the heat. But I would do that in a heartbeat. Seriously need someone like Wiggins who can guard ant or Randle


Jimmy was asking out going into the season. Rumors were a deal centered around CP3 contract + Kuminga for Butler. Warriors did not want to pursue and focused on Paul George which fell through. Then near the deadline they traded Wiggins for Butler because we needed to include a large contract.

I’d hope we’d look into it.

A curry/buddy/wiggins/jimmy/dray lineup is really intriguing.

still want Johnson who can avg 22 with us and Curry can relax in regular season. Wiggins dont help your offense in playoffs
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Post#216 » by SpreeS » Thu May 15, 2025 4:43 am

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Onus wrote:Probably the heat. But I would do that in a heartbeat. Seriously need someone like Wiggins who can guard ant or Randle


Heat fans would probably trade wiggins for Beal.

That’s crazy


Its reality… He was bad on Warriors too in last seasons. Two seasons in a row we played way better w/o him.
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Post#217 » by Onus » Thu May 15, 2025 4:45 am

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Jimmy was asking out going into the season. Rumors were a deal centered around CP3 contract + Kuminga for Butler. Warriors did not want to pursue and focused on Paul George which fell through. Then near the deadline they traded Wiggins for Butler because we needed to include a large contract.

I’d hope we’d look into it.

A curry/buddy/wiggins/jimmy/dray lineup is really intriguing.

still want Johnson who can avg 22 with us and Curry can relax in regular season. Wiggins dont help your offense in playoffs

But he helps your defense. And really Steph can handle the offense. Maybe not for 82 games but definitely in the playoffs.

I mean either or works for me. But if we get cam we’d need a way to lessen the load on dray as well. Dray needs to be used in spurts. His no offense kills our offense.
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Post#218 » by cpower » Thu May 15, 2025 4:46 am

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Onus wrote:I’d hope we’d look into it.

A curry/buddy/wiggins/jimmy/dray lineup is really intriguing.

still want Johnson who can avg 22 with us and Curry can relax in regular season. Wiggins dont help your offense in playoffs

But he helps your defense. And really Steph can handle the offense. Maybe not for 82 games but definitely in the playoffs.

I mean either or works for me. But if we get cam we’d need a way to lessen the load on dray as well. Dray needs to be used in spurts. His no offense kills our offense.

too much pressure on steph again. they would again blitz him crazy and he will be 38...CAM will make Green much useful too.
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Post#219 » by Crazy-Canuck » Thu May 15, 2025 4:48 am

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Onus wrote:The shocking thing is Jimmy can’t do it.


It wasn't though. Anyone who actually watched Jimmy and not the nostalgic idea of playoff Jimmy from 3 years ago saw it. I warped on this alot, I think cdm did as well. He was always going to be a small ball 4 in our system.

But he can’t even guard Randle. It’s not even guarding ant it’s guarding anyone that has size on him. He struggled against Paulo. He struggled against Gordon. He wanted no part of guarding Randle. How can he be a 4 when he can’t guard 4s.


I still think he's a smaer and good positional defender, even at the 4 and vs some 3s, especially with help defenders (which we lack)Defensively, the wing spot on this team has always been the most difficult and hardest position to fill and play. I think kerr realized early that Jimmy couldn't fill that role, yet needed him on the floor. Our sf has to be able to switch 1 through 4 and be able to cover alot ground and needs to synergize with dray. That's what they will be hunting for in the off season.
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Post#220 » by Onus » Thu May 15, 2025 4:49 am

cpower wrote:
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cpower wrote:still want Johnson who can avg 22 with us and Curry can relax in regular season. Wiggins dont help your offense in playoffs

But he helps your defense. And really Steph can handle the offense. Maybe not for 82 games but definitely in the playoffs.

I mean either or works for me. But if we get cam we’d need a way to lessen the load on dray as well. Dray needs to be used in spurts. His no offense kills our offense.

too much pressure on steph again. they would again blitz him crazy and he will be 38...CAM will make Green much useful too.

We have seen What happens with 3 elite shooters. That’s why I’d be happy to go get Beasley as well.
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