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Re: Tahaad Pettiford 

Post#41 » by EvanZ » Wed May 14, 2025 10:41 pm

CP War Hawks wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:Shariffe Cooper vibes


Yea, except he's bigger, better shooter, more explosive, better finisher.


Yeah imagine comparing a guy who can really shoot to a guy who literally the only thing keeping him from an NBA career was lack of shooting. :lol: :banghead:
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Re: Tahaad Pettiford 

Post#42 » by King Ken » Wed May 14, 2025 11:40 pm

He looked really good tonight. Natural feel for the game and his shooting looked good
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Post#43 » by azcatz11 » Thu May 15, 2025 2:18 am

King Ken wrote:He looked really good tonight. Natural feel for the game and his shooting looked good


What will he even do in the NBA? He will be a worse version of Donte DiVencenzo. His combine measurements were worse than expected.
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Re: Tahaad Pettiford 

Post#44 » by King Ken » Thu May 15, 2025 2:29 am

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King Ken wrote:He looked really good tonight. Natural feel for the game and his shooting looked good


What will he even do in the NBA? He will be a worse version of Donte DiVencenzo. His combine measurements were worse than expected.

I don't know. I think he needs to prove himself to be more dominant in college as he's not the biggest guy. I heard he's looking for a 1st round promise. I wouldn't do it.
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Re: Tahaad Pettiford 

Post#45 » by azcatz11 » Thu May 15, 2025 4:49 am

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King Ken wrote:He looked really good tonight. Natural feel for the game and his shooting looked good


What will he even do in the NBA? He will be a worse version of Donte DiVencenzo. His combine measurements were worse than expected.

I don't know. I think he needs to prove himself to be more dominant in college as he's not the biggest guy. I heard he's looking for a 1st round promise. I wouldn't do it.


He's basically Rob Dillingham size but nowhere near as athletic / fast / explosive. He's not even a lead guard.

I would rather have Mark Sears who is an inch shorter.
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Re: Tahaad Pettiford 

Post#46 » by JMAC3 » Thu May 15, 2025 2:15 pm

EvanZ wrote:
CP War Hawks wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:Shariffe Cooper vibes


Yea, except he's bigger, better shooter, more explosive, better finisher.


Yeah imagine comparing a guy who can really shoot to a guy who literally the only thing keeping him from an NBA career was lack of shooting. :lol: :banghead:


Yeah more so a really small guard that had a cult following that he was going to be good and worth a first round selection.
I think if someone wants to take a swing in the 2nd sure, those are lottery tickets anyways.

I am just less impressed by a prospect playing well in a game that has less prep and structure than a summer league game.
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Re: Tahaad Pettiford 

Post#47 » by EvanZ » Thu May 15, 2025 4:02 pm

azcatz11 wrote:
King Ken wrote:He looked really good tonight. Natural feel for the game and his shooting looked good


What will he even do in the NBA? He will be a worse version of Donte DiVencenzo. His combine measurements were worse than expected.


Bro, did you read this thread? People here thought he was 5'10". :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post#48 » by TB » Thu May 15, 2025 4:03 pm

CptCrunch wrote:This guy just remind me of Aaron Brooks for some reason, probably with that floater they both like.

Small guard gonna peak at 20/5 in the best case without being able to play defense. Not gonna be that high impact of a player as I don't rate him as some cerebral passer.

As a high end outcome, he will be a low tier starter point guard, think 20th best point guard considering the defensive side of ball.

Realistically, he is probably closer to a 6th man bench point guard in a above median development case.

Teams rather sign a vet to play the point as opposed to hand reigns to a mediocre rookie PG prospect. There are not enough minutes for Pettiford to fail here in the league.

Come to think of it, which team in the league like to run undersized midget guards from their bench scorer position? Say aye if your team does.

If Pettiford was 4 inches taller and 40 lbs heavier. He would be a top 5 pick. Sad reality of life.


I really like this take as the yin to my yang view of him being a solid starting PG as a ceiling. And I don’t even think its a bad outlook for Tahaad, Brooks had a really good basketball career… 10 years in nba, couple hundred starts, but never a “good” starter consistently.

I still have him as a better prospect than Brooks, but thats a good comp in my opinion. And if he can fit even some of the roles that a Brooks, Schroder, Jennings, poor mans Conley (as the ceiling), etc have filled, I think thats worthy of a 1st round pick. One i’d love for my team (Warriors) to get in the mix for since they desperately need a PG off the bench and for the future.
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Re: Tahaad Pettiford 

Post#49 » by EvanZ » Thu May 15, 2025 4:05 pm

I highly highly doubt Pettiford stays in the draft unless he gets a first round promise (or multiple). Dude can make more NIL returning.
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Post#50 » by FarBeyondDriven » Fri May 16, 2025 11:29 pm

he had a horrendous 2nd scrimmage and his body language was terrible. I'd take the NIL money if I was him and keep taking it as long as it's being offered for as long as he has eligibility. Next year's draft class is so much stronger so returning isn't going to make him magically taller and a first rounder.
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Post#51 » by EvanZ » Sat May 17, 2025 1:30 am

FarBeyondDriven wrote:he had a horrendous 2nd scrimmage and his body language was terrible. I'd take the NIL money if I was him and keep taking it as long as it's being offered for as long as he has eligibility. Next year's draft class is so much stronger so returning isn't going to make him magically taller and a first rounder.


Wait aren’t you the guy who says every draft is exactly equal lol
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Re: Tahaad Pettiford 

Post#52 » by jman3134 » Sun May 18, 2025 11:35 am

He should come out this year and be picked in the 1st. With the type of NCAA season he had with Auburn, you have to rate him as a first round talent imo. He's just too skilled with the ball and everything he doesn't do well, he is only going to improve on with time. People see low ceiling because of his size, but I strongly disagree.
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Post#53 » by FarBeyondDriven » Sun May 18, 2025 5:34 pm

EvanZ wrote:
FarBeyondDriven wrote:he had a horrendous 2nd scrimmage and his body language was terrible. I'd take the NIL money if I was him and keep taking it as long as it's being offered for as long as he has eligibility. Next year's draft class is so much stronger so returning isn't going to make him magically taller and a first rounder.


Wait aren’t you the guy who says every draft is exactly equal lol


what does this even mean? jfc now we're just making stuff up and spouting absolute nonsense :lol: :lol:
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Post#54 » by azcatz11 » Mon May 19, 2025 12:32 am

jman3134 wrote:He should come out this year and be picked in the 1st. With the type of NCAA season he had with Auburn, you have to rate him as a first round talent imo. He's just too skilled with the ball and everything he doesn't do well, he is only going to improve on with time. People see low ceiling because of his size, but I strongly disagree.


It’s debatable if a player not in the lotto should stay in the draft with NIL. It’s now all about the second contract. Rookie contracts are less than what they make in NIL
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Post#55 » by Upperclass » Mon May 19, 2025 1:48 pm

Pettiford is a top 5 talent in the draft and could be some teams Tyrese Maxey.
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Re: Tahaad Pettiford 

Post#56 » by SeattleJazzFan » Mon May 19, 2025 2:23 pm

funny how a guy gets so much hype for a great combine game, then when he stinks up the joint in the next game, it's near crickets.

reality is, that's tahaad pettiford for you. he's short and just not that good in the big picture. when you're barely 6', 42/36 shooting splits aren't going to cut it.
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Re: Tahaad Pettiford 

Post#57 » by EvanZ » Mon May 19, 2025 4:16 pm

FarBeyondDriven wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
FarBeyondDriven wrote:he had a horrendous 2nd scrimmage and his body language was terrible. I'd take the NIL money if I was him and keep taking it as long as it's being offered for as long as he has eligibility. Next year's draft class is so much stronger so returning isn't going to make him magically taller and a first rounder.


Wait aren’t you the guy who says every draft is exactly equal lol


what does this even mean? jfc now we're just making stuff up and spouting absolute nonsense :lol: :lol:


Did you not say many times here that the 2024 Draft was an average or even better than average Draft? If not, please feel free to correct me. I'll take the L.
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Re: Tahaad Pettiford 

Post#58 » by JMAC3 » Mon May 19, 2025 4:56 pm

When did it become so important about who got guys height right before combine? Lol.

Literally half the arguments going on around here are pre-combine height "I told you so" with Harper, Pettiford, Bailey and Sorber.
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Re: Tahaad Pettiford 

Post#59 » by Chokic » Wed May 21, 2025 2:12 pm

6'1 in shoes isnt that small for a pg if you are as athletic as he is with his wingspan 6'5.5. He has a bigger wingspan than 6'3 kyrie irving for reference. Super quick fast twitchy great bounce. Tight handles nice floater pretty good vision finding his roll man off the dribble can make difficult shots in broken up play situations or shot clock winding down. Gets great separation off the dribble bc of his elite quickness and ability to stop on a dime.

The best comparison is young Brandon Jennings. If you can get that in the late 1st rd that's a steal. Is he a better prospect than last years similar prospect Ro Dillingham? I personally think so.
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Post#60 » by EvanZ » Wed May 21, 2025 3:37 pm

Chokic wrote:6'1 in shoes isnt that small for a pg if you are as athletic as he is with his wingspan 6'5.5. He has a bigger wingspan than 6'3 kyrie irving for reference. Super quick fast twitchy great bounce. Tight handles nice floater pretty good vision finding his roll man off the dribble can make difficult shots in broken up play situations or shot clock winding down. Gets great separation off the dribble bc of his elite quickness and ability to stop on a dime.

The best comparison is young Brandon Jennings. If you can get that in the late 1st rd that's a steal. Is he a better prospect than last years similar prospect Ro Dillingham? I personally think so.


The thing is Kyrie is thicc. Don't get me wrong, a 175 lb Kyrie would still have been very good but probably more along the lines of Trae Young. This is also what people continually underestimate about guys like Steph and even Garland is that despite their "baby facedness", these dudes are strong and not all that skinny. Even thinking about Chris Paul or going way way back to a small point guard like Tim Hardaway. Having that strength due to more muscle density really makes a difference.

One thing I'd want to know about Pettiford is how much weight training he's actually done and what his diet is like. Some of these guys just haven't been in real weight programs and if that's the case you can on average expect them to put on 10-15 pounds of muscle within their first few years of training. Some guys got their "noobie" gains years ago or are just naturally have elite genetics. These are the things from our perspective as fans that are simply impossible to gauge for the most part.

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