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Post#921 » by Gravy » Thu May 15, 2025 5:24 am

3toheadmelo wrote:Randle headed to the conference finals before us :lol:
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He's been consistent too so far in the playoffs. You can rely on him most nights to get 24/5/6. That would be nice to have...
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Post#922 » by ctorres » Thu May 15, 2025 5:37 am

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3toheadmelo wrote:Randle headed to the conference finals before us :lol:

He's been consistent too so far in the playoffs. You can rely on him most nights to get 24/5/5. That would be nice to have...


KAT is giving us 20 and 11 on 49/37/91 shooting splits in the playoffs. He has been rebounding the ball very well for us and scoring very difficult shots in the paint and mid-range.

The roles that Randle and KAT have are different.

Randle is clearly given the green light to be the 2nd leading scorer on the Wolves. The only other two guys scoring in double figures in the playoffs for the Wolves are JAden McDaniels with 15 ppg and Naz Reid with 11 ppg.

On the Knicks, not only do we have Brunson scoring 29+ ppg, we have OG and Mikal both at 15 ppg, and Josh at 14 ppg. That is happening because of KAT's willingness to be unselfish, play within his role on the offensive end, and do what the team is asking of him.
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Post#923 » by Gravy » Thu May 15, 2025 5:56 am

ctorres wrote:
Gravy wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Randle headed to the conference finals before us :lol:

He's been consistent too so far in the playoffs. You can rely on him most nights to get 24/5/5. That would be nice to have...


KAT is giving us 20 and 11 on 49/37/91 shooting splits in the playoffs. He has been rebounding the ball very well for us and scoring very difficult shots in the paint and mid-range.

The roles that Randle and KAT have are different.

Randle is clearly given the green light to be the 2nd leading scorer on the Wolves. The only other two guys scoring in double figures in the playoffs for the Wolves are JAden McDaniels with 15 ppg and Naz Reid with 11 ppg.

On the Knicks, not only do we have Brunson scoring 29+ ppg, we have OG and Mikal both at 15 ppg, and Josh at 14 ppg. That is happening because of KAT's willingness to be unselfish, play within his role on the offensive end, and do what the team is asking of him.

Feels like KAT has had like 4 or 5 games in the playoffs where he has been invisible on offense. KAT has the green light too, he's just unable to regularly punish the other team for putting much smaller wings on him. Then he commits silly fouls to put himself on the bench when he was doing well.
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Post#924 » by ctorres » Thu May 15, 2025 6:03 am

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ctorres wrote:
Gravy wrote:He's been consistent too so far in the playoffs. You can rely on him most nights to get 24/5/5. That would be nice to have...


KAT is giving us 20 and 11 on 49/37/91 shooting splits in the playoffs. He has been rebounding the ball very well for us and scoring very difficult shots in the paint and mid-range.

The roles that Randle and KAT have are different.

Randle is clearly given the green light to be the 2nd leading scorer on the Wolves. The only other two guys scoring in double figures in the playoffs for the Wolves are JAden McDaniels with 15 ppg and Naz Reid with 11 ppg.

On the Knicks, not only do we have Brunson scoring 29+ ppg, we have OG and Mikal both at 15 ppg, and Josh at 14 ppg. That is happening because of KAT's willingness to be unselfish, play within his role on the offensive end, and do what the team is asking of him.

Feels like KAT has had like 4 or 5 games in the playoffs where he has been invisible on offense. KAT has the green light too, he's just unable to regularly punish the other team for putting much smaller wings on him. Then he commits silly fouls to put himself on the bench when he was doing well.


He doesn't have the green light though. I posted a video about it in the PG thread. KAT basically implied that they don't want him behind the 3pt line. They are asking him to do his damage in the paint. If he had the green light, he would be letting it fly from three more often than he has been. He's at 2.6 3pa/g when he could be attempting triple or quadruple the amount of threes.
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Post#925 » by Worst_to_First » Thu May 15, 2025 7:43 am

ctorres wrote:
Gravy wrote:
ctorres wrote:
KAT is giving us 20 and 11 on 49/37/91 shooting splits in the playoffs. He has been rebounding the ball very well for us and scoring very difficult shots in the paint and mid-range.

The roles that Randle and KAT have are different.

Randle is clearly given the green light to be the 2nd leading scorer on the Wolves. The only other two guys scoring in double figures in the playoffs for the Wolves are JAden McDaniels with 15 ppg and Naz Reid with 11 ppg.

On the Knicks, not only do we have Brunson scoring 29+ ppg, we have OG and Mikal both at 15 ppg, and Josh at 14 ppg. That is happening because of KAT's willingness to be unselfish, play within his role on the offensive end, and do what the team is asking of him.

Feels like KAT has had like 4 or 5 games in the playoffs where he has been invisible on offense. KAT has the green light too, he's just unable to regularly punish the other team for putting much smaller wings on him. Then he commits silly fouls to put himself on the bench when he was doing well.


He doesn't have the green light though. I posted a video about it in the PG thread. KAT basically implied that they don't want him behind the 3pt line. They are asking him to do his damage in the paint. If he had the green light, he would be letting it fly from three more often than he has been. He's at 2.6 3pa/g when he could be attempting triple or quadruple the amount of threes.


There was a game against the Pistons wherein Thibs scolded KAT when he attempted an open 3-pointer. I think it was Walt Clyde Frazier that pointed that out. I saw KAT be a lot more hesitant to shoot from long range after that.
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Post#926 » by Wildcat » Thu May 15, 2025 10:58 am

Worst_to_First wrote:
ctorres wrote:
Gravy wrote:Feels like KAT has had like 4 or 5 games in the playoffs where he has been invisible on offense. KAT has the green light too, he's just unable to regularly punish the other team for putting much smaller wings on him. Then he commits silly fouls to put himself on the bench when he was doing well.


He doesn't have the green light though. I posted a video about it in the PG thread. KAT basically implied that they don't want him behind the 3pt line. They are asking him to do his damage in the paint. If he had the green light, he would be letting it fly from three more often than he has been. He's at 2.6 3pa/g when he could be attempting triple or quadruple the amount of threes.


There was a game against the Pistons wherein Thibs scolded KAT when he attempted an open 3-pointer. I think it was Walt Clyde Frazier that pointed that out. I saw KAT be a lot more hesitant to shoot from long range after that.


I would like to see that because I recall there was a particular shot that KAT chucked damn near the half court line. I bet that's what got under Thibs' skin.
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Post#927 » by Adelheid » Thu May 15, 2025 11:10 am

ooohhh this sounds interesting...havent heard about this.

they traded for a pf/c whos specialty is making 3s and he doesnt want him to space the floor :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
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Post#928 » by Worst_to_First » Thu May 15, 2025 11:13 am

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Worst_to_First wrote:
ctorres wrote:
He doesn't have the green light though. I posted a video about it in the PG thread. KAT basically implied that they don't want him behind the 3pt line. They are asking him to do his damage in the paint. If he had the green light, he would be letting it fly from three more often than he has been. He's at 2.6 3pa/g when he could be attempting triple or quadruple the amount of threes.


There was a game against the Pistons wherein Thibs scolded KAT when he attempted an open 3-pointer. I think it was Walt Clyde Frazier that pointed that out. I saw KAT be a lot more hesitant to shoot from long range after that.


I would like to see that because I recall there was a particular shot that KAT chucked damn near the half court line. I bet that's what got under Thibs' skin.


Hmmm could be but I know it is within KAT’s range.
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Post#929 » by prophet_of_rage » Thu May 15, 2025 11:40 am

WaltFrazier wrote:Have to rethink the what ifs of doing the Kat trade all over again.

Add Mikal, keep Randle and Donte, where would we be now?

Finch is a very good offensive coach so that's helping Randle, plus playing with Ant
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Post#930 » by Wildcat » Thu May 15, 2025 12:42 pm

prophet_of_rage wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:Have to rethink the what ifs of doing the Kat trade all over again.

Add Mikal, keep Randle and Donte, where would we be now?

Finch is a very good offensive coach so that's helping Randle, plus playing with Ant
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Comfort and injury recovery. This is the Randle we had last season. Looked even better when I-Hart came in for Mitch and RJ was traded for OG. I watch T-Wolves game for a couple of years now and was floored when I saw that Finch was playing Randle like he was KAT. Had him camped out there on the corner. I applaud him for listening to the team and changing midseason. As much as I can't stand KAT's ability to lock every single game, I equally annoyed and exhausted that Thibs has been come up with a way to utilize KAT.
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Post#931 » by Adelheid » Thu May 15, 2025 12:56 pm

prophet_of_rage wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:Have to rethink the what ifs of doing the Kat trade all over again.

Add Mikal, keep Randle and Donte, where would we be now?

Finch is a very good offensive coach so that's helping Randle, plus playing with Ant
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*shrugs* this is the best outcome that we can all hope for next season
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Post#932 » by robillionaire » Thu May 15, 2025 1:48 pm

prophet_of_rage wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:Have to rethink the what ifs of doing the Kat trade all over again.

Add Mikal, keep Randle and Donte, where would we be now?

Finch is a very good offensive coach so that's helping Randle, plus playing with Ant
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It hasn’t even been a year. He’s already back at an all nba all star level and now just went 29 8 and 5 on 13-18 shooting in an elimination game. I don’t expect apologies from the people who tormented his fans for years for backing him insisting he can’t mentally perform in the playoffs and ignoring all the circumstances because that’s just not what we do here but just the sweet sound of their continued silence on the matter is enough
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Post#933 » by WaltFrazier » Thu May 15, 2025 1:54 pm

ctorres wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:Have to rethink the what ifs of doing the Kat trade all over again.

Add Mikal, keep Randle and Donte, where would we be now?

Finch is a very good offensive coach so that's helping Randle, plus playing with Ant


We would have bombed to begin the season without a reliable center.

No Mitch, and Achiuwa was injured to start the season too.

We weren't going to survive going small with Randle and OG at the 4 and 5. Either that, or Sims and Hukporti were our only options at Center for 48 mnutes.

Having KAT at Center to start the season saved us.

Would have had to get a center in the summer to replace iHart while waiting for Mitch. A lot cheaper than the Kat trade. But I don't know who, just speculating about an alternative
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Post#934 » by spree2kawhi » Thu May 15, 2025 2:35 pm

ctorres wrote:
Gravy wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Randle headed to the conference finals before us :lol:

He's been consistent too so far in the playoffs. You can rely on him most nights to get 24/5/5. That would be nice to have...


KAT is giving us 20 and 11 on 49/37/91 shooting splits in the playoffs. He has been rebounding the ball very well for us and scoring very difficult shots in the paint and mid-range.

The roles that Randle and KAT have are different.

Randle is clearly given the green light to be the 2nd leading scorer on the Wolves. The only other two guys scoring in double figures in the playoffs for the Wolves are JAden McDaniels with 15 ppg and Naz Reid with 11 ppg.

On the Knicks, not only do we have Brunson scoring 29+ ppg, we have OG and Mikal both at 15 ppg, and Josh at 14 ppg. That is happening because of KAT's willingness to be unselfish, play within his role on the offensive end, and do what the team is asking of him.

… which should be obvious.
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Post#935 » by spree2kawhi » Thu May 15, 2025 2:36 pm

prophet_of_rage wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:Have to rethink the what ifs of doing the Kat trade all over again.

Add Mikal, keep Randle and Donte, where would we be now?

Finch is a very good offensive coach so that's helping Randle, plus playing with Ant
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Post#936 » by iLLSonChandla » Thu May 15, 2025 2:40 pm

I hate the trade. Randle is a better player
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Post#937 » by Gravy » Thu May 15, 2025 2:44 pm

WaltFrazier wrote:
ctorres wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:Have to rethink the what ifs of doing the Kat trade all over again.

Add Mikal, keep Randle and Donte, where would we be now?

Finch is a very good offensive coach so that's helping Randle, plus playing with Ant


We would have bombed to begin the season without a reliable center.

No Mitch, and Achiuwa was injured to start the season too.

We weren't going to survive going small with Randle and OG at the 4 and 5. Either that, or Sims and Hukporti were our only options at Center for 48 mnutes.

Having KAT at Center to start the season saved us.

Would have had to get a center in the summer to replace iHart while waiting for Mitch. A lot cheaper than the Kat trade. But I don't know who, just speculating about an alternative

Was Luke Kornet available, he's ballin out lol
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Post#939 » by WaltFrazier » Thu May 15, 2025 4:22 pm

Gravy wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:
ctorres wrote:
We would have bombed to begin the season without a reliable center.

No Mitch, and Achiuwa was injured to start the season too.

We weren't going to survive going small with Randle and OG at the 4 and 5. Either that, or Sims and Hukporti were our only options at Center for 48 mnutes.

Having KAT at Center to start the season saved us.

Would have had to get a center in the summer to replace iHart while waiting for Mitch. A lot cheaper than the Kat trade. But I don't know who, just speculating about an alternative

Was Luke Kornet available, he's ballin out lol

Just checked his Wiki page, 29 years old, late bloomer obviously. It is a good story of perseverance, unfortunately it's for Boston. So he was a Knick his first two seasons, wasn't good enough to keep I guess? What a back-up C he'd be now.
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Post#940 » by Wildcat » Thu May 15, 2025 4:35 pm

ctorres wrote:
Gravy wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Randle headed to the conference finals before us :lol:

He's been consistent too so far in the playoffs. You can rely on him most nights to get 24/5/5. That would be nice to have...


KAT is giving us 20 and 11 on 49/37/91 shooting splits in the playoffs. He has been rebounding the ball very well for us and scoring very difficult shots in the paint and mid-range.

The roles that Randle and KAT have are different.

Randle is clearly given the green light to be the 2nd leading scorer on the Wolves. The only other two guys scoring in double figures in the playoffs for the Wolves are JAden McDaniels with 15 ppg and Naz Reid with 11 ppg.

On the Knicks, not only do we have Brunson scoring 29+ ppg, we have OG and Mikal both at 15 ppg, and Josh at 14 ppg. That is happening because of KAT's willingness to be unselfish, play within his role on the offensive end, and do what the team is asking of him.


One of big points here is Thibs system favors Randle over KAT, which made this trade stupid because this team absolutely needs a 2nd ISO guy to make Thibs offense look brilliant.

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