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Re: PG: First road loss in this playoff 

Post#241 » by Wildcat » Thu May 15, 2025 10:30 am

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Wildcat wrote:KAT getting ripped across the spectrum.


it was a really unfortunate showing for him and ogugua odogwu.

He can go too.

The new CBA is a blessing and curse because it’s speeding up the time on evaluating players & their contracts.

We only got a 2-3 year window, team gave OG all the money that could’ve gone to Ihart & did it with a smile.

Fam can’t even be bothered to give us 10 points or 5 assists, what the fu*k is this sh*t? His defense is great but it doesn’t make up for the disappearing act on offense.

He would do great on the rockets or pistons where team is solid but the expectations are lower. I’m not saying I’m with the Giannis move but that spiteful chant Melo been doing all season might be working.

Tired of these sometimey, frail ass bitches that can’t shoot worth a sh*t when we actually need them instead of beating up on the Wizards and Hornets.


Slight correction here.

OG money had nothing to do with I-Hart. Knicks signed I-Hart to a deal that only gave them Early Bird Rights. Meaning they could only offer him a max of 175% of his contract. Knicks offered that deal.

Only mistake the Knicks did was not signing I-Hart to a 3 year deal instead of his initial 2 year deal. 3 year deal would have given the Knicks his full Bird Rights and would be able to match whatever overpaid OKC wanted to do.

I still say I-Hart should've taken the Knicks guarantee 4/72 over OKC's 2/59 because his 3rd is a team option, and I don't think OKC is going to pick it up Chet, Dort, and eventually SGA are going to have extensions coming up. I-Hart is the first contract to go.
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Re: PG: First road loss in this playoff 

Post#242 » by Reign23 » Thu May 15, 2025 10:30 am

dakomish23 wrote:KP really has given them nothing this series

we HAVE to grab this, because I don't know if there will be another chance as big as this.
Tatum out, KP totally banged up, Brown and Jrue also didn't look a 100% before last night. Hauser is on one ankle.
... And we have basically everybody healthy.
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Re: PG: First road loss in this playoff 

Post#243 » by god shammgod » Thu May 15, 2025 10:31 am

wasted a game where mitch hit every free throw
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Re: PG: First road loss in this playoff 

Post#244 » by god shammgod » Thu May 15, 2025 10:39 am

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Re: PG: First road loss in this playoff 

Post#245 » by NoStatsGuy » Thu May 15, 2025 10:41 am

Wildcat wrote:
JBreezeNY wrote:
Jeff Van Gully wrote:
it was a really unfortunate showing for him and ogugua odogwu.

He can go too.

The new CBA is a blessing and curse because it’s speeding up the time on evaluating players & their contracts.

We only got a 2-3 year window, team gave OG all the money that could’ve gone to Ihart & did it with a smile.

Fam can’t even be bothered to give us 10 points or 5 assists, what the fu*k is this sh*t? His defense is great but it doesn’t make up for the disappearing act on offense.

He would do great on the rockets or pistons where team is solid but the expectations are lower. I’m not saying I’m with the Giannis move but that spiteful chant Melo been doing all season might be working.

Tired of these sometimey, frail ass bitches that can’t shoot worth a sh*t when we actually need them instead of beating up on the Wizards and Hornets.


Slight correction here.

OG money had nothing to do with I-Hart. Knicks signed I-Hart to a deal that only gave them Early Bird Rights. Meaning they could only offer him a max of 175% of his contract. Knicks offered that deal.

Only mistake the Knicks did was not signing I-Hart to a 3 year deal instead of his initial 2 year deal. 3 year deal would have given the Knicks his full Bird Rights and would be able to match whatever overpaid OKC wanted to do.

I still say I-Hart should've taken the Knicks guarantee 4/72 over OKC's 2/59 because his 3rd is a team option, and I don't think OKC is going to pick it up Chet, Dort, and eventually SGA are going to have extensions coming up. I-Hart is the first contract to go.


lets not forget ihart was a scrub off the bench before he showed up last year. when julius and mitch were hurt. in hindsight yea, we should have signed him on a different contract. but thats easy to say now. No team wanted too keep him before he was on the knicks. Ihart made his money in last years playoffs and the stretch before. I dont know if we would have been able to restructure in like february or march. but we were bound to lose him. noone else would have paid him 30 mil a year. I mean hes nice, but is he 30 mil a year nice? i dont know.
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Re: PG: First road loss in this playoff 

Post#246 » by Reign23 » Thu May 15, 2025 10:46 am

god shammgod wrote:wasted a game where mitch hit every free throw

... and Hart couldn't miss from three. :noway:
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Re: PG: First road loss in this playoff 

Post#247 » by Wildcat » Thu May 15, 2025 10:53 am

NoStatsGuy wrote:
Wildcat wrote:
JBreezeNY wrote:He can go too.

The new CBA is a blessing and curse because it’s speeding up the time on evaluating players & their contracts.

We only got a 2-3 year window, team gave OG all the money that could’ve gone to Ihart & did it with a smile.

Fam can’t even be bothered to give us 10 points or 5 assists, what the fu*k is this sh*t? His defense is great but it doesn’t make up for the disappearing act on offense.

He would do great on the rockets or pistons where team is solid but the expectations are lower. I’m not saying I’m with the Giannis move but that spiteful chant Melo been doing all season might be working.

Tired of these sometimey, frail ass bitches that can’t shoot worth a sh*t when we actually need them instead of beating up on the Wizards and Hornets.


Slight correction here.

OG money had nothing to do with I-Hart. Knicks signed I-Hart to a deal that only gave them Early Bird Rights. Meaning they could only offer him a max of 175% of his contract. Knicks offered that deal.

Only mistake the Knicks did was not signing I-Hart to a 3 year deal instead of his initial 2 year deal. 3 year deal would have given the Knicks his full Bird Rights and would be able to match whatever overpaid OKC wanted to do.

I still say I-Hart should've taken the Knicks guarantee 4/72 over OKC's 2/59 because his 3rd is a team option, and I don't think OKC is going to pick it up Chet, Dort, and eventually SGA are going to have extensions coming up. I-Hart is the first contract to go.


lets not forget ihart was a scrub off the bench before he showed up last year. when julius and mitch were hurt. in hindsight yea, we should have signed him on a different contract. but thats easy to say now. No team wanted too keep him. Ihart made his money in last years playoffs and the stretch before. I dont know if we would have been able to restructurer in like february or marrch. but we were bound to lose hart. noone else would have paid him 30 mil a year. I mean hes nice, but is he 30 mil a year nice? i dont know.


Yeah, Knicks gave him a deal that hell of a deal from his 1.7 mil to 8.8 mil. I was hoodwink in believing I-Hart would stay with NY on 4/72 because I was sold on this loyalty BS. Joke was on me.

And nay, we couldn't do anything to keep I-Hart. I also don't think he's a 30 mil guy last Summer, but his current stats of 11/10/4 suggests he's 30 mil guy.
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Re: PG: First road loss in this playoff 

Post#248 » by god shammgod » Thu May 15, 2025 11:02 am

the knicks have overpaid in some ways for everyone after brunson. i like og a lot but he was paid a bit too much money for his level of player. the 5 picks for mikal are self explanatory. and you might think randle/divo isn't that much for kat but we're paying him 50 and eventually 60 million dollars. he's one of the highest paid players in the league. we're getting nothing close to the level of production we need from him for that much money. our other center is making 15 mill and is outplaying him this series.
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Re: PG: First road loss in this playoff 

Post#249 » by Adelheid » Thu May 15, 2025 11:04 am

snadler wrote:I see some people saying they can’t believe how flat they came out, that’s the thing, they didn’t come out flat..they were up 40-32 in the second quarter. So this idea they didn’t come ready to play is not true. The 3rd quarter of doom is what changed the game..


Why does the 3rd quarter of Doom exist for the Knicks anyway?? Do they had sex or got head at halftime?
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Post#250 » by god shammgod » Thu May 15, 2025 11:06 am

we gave up 5 picks for mikal and right now i'm convinced the kat trade was worse lol
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Re: PG: First road loss in this playoff 

Post#251 » by LFGK » Thu May 15, 2025 11:11 am

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Jalen Bluntson wrote:Third quarter was the worst excuse for a playoff officiating I have ever seen. OG disappeared. This is what happens when you don't really run any sets. Hunt and Peck off ISO ball. No ,matter who gets the ball. They don't get into any rhythm where there motions/actions are for a purpose to get a guy his shot.

They got into rhythm and rolled away with the lead. They played our defense like a fiddle once the game swung their way. Fouls helped get them rolling,

Oh well. Still up 3-2. I'm not really upset. I actually had real life issues really make me angry this evening after work. I don't think I could get angry again for the day. Thibs sucks. Let's go Knicks.


20FTA in the third lol, how in the hell is that even possible?
Knicks win game 6 pretty comfortably


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Re: PG: First road loss in this playoff 

Post#252 » by HEZI » Thu May 15, 2025 11:20 am

god shammgod wrote:we gave up 5 picks for mikal and right now i'm convinced the kat trade was worse lol


KAT has struggled but even in his struggles he’s still giving us 20 and 13 for the series

5 first round picks has had one good game all series and is averaging 13 ppg on 39%FG / 25% 3P
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Re: PG: First road loss in this playoff 

Post#253 » by god shammgod » Thu May 15, 2025 11:22 am

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god shammgod wrote:we gave up 5 picks for mikal and right now i'm convinced the kat trade was worse lol


KAT has struggled but even in his struggles he’s still giving us 20 and 13 for the series

5 first round picks has had one good game all series and is averaging 13 ppg on 39%FG / 25% 3P


yes but defensively he just kills us....and it's pretty often
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Re: PG: First road loss in this playoff 

Post#254 » by NiceLikeChrist » Thu May 15, 2025 11:25 am

Julius would not be letting jrue holiday check him I know that much.

Towns needs to figure out ways to be more assertive and get into his spots because the team does not consider him a focal point on offense. Hardly anything is run with him in mind so it’s up to him to be aggressive but that’s not his game. Unfortunate really.

We’re stuck with the offense how it is til we get a new coach.
NiceLikeChrist wrote:We are going to deeply regret this. We traded away the best player in the trade and still had to give up a great role player AND a pick?

so many people are going to eat their words about randle
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Re: PG: First road loss in this playoff 

Post#255 » by HEZI » Thu May 15, 2025 11:27 am

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god shammgod wrote:we gave up 5 picks for mikal and right now i'm convinced the kat trade was worse lol


KAT has struggled but even in his struggles he’s still giving us 20 and 13 for the series

5 first round picks has had one good game all series and is averaging 13 ppg on 39%FG / 25% 3P


yes but defensively he just kills us....and it's pretty often


Yeah his defense is awful but the alternative was Randle who doesn’t play defense either. We would have had the same defensive issues whether we made the KAT trade or not. At least KAT was able to play Center full time and allowed us to get 3rd seed otherwise we would have been relying on Jericho Sims for majority of the season :lol:
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Re: PG: First road loss in this playoff 

Post#256 » by Chanel Bomber » Thu May 15, 2025 11:27 am

god shammgod wrote:the knicks have overpaid in some ways for everyone after brunson. i like og a lot but he was paid a bit too much money for his level of player. the 5 picks for mikal are self explanatory. and you might think randle/divo isn't that much for kat but we're paying him 50 and eventually 60 million dollars. he's one of the highest paid players in the league. we're getting nothing close to the level of production we need from him for that much money. our other center is making 15 mill and is outplaying him this series.

It may be a reductionist view but it's all about results now. Make the Finals and these overpays across the board prove to have been worth it (arguably). Fail to make the Finals and they all fall under a much different light. They went all in so now results will dictate how sound these decisions were.

You can afford some inefficiencies if you meet your objective - not every step needs to be optimal or even a net win in isolation. But the if is paramount.
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Post#257 » by R-DAWG » Thu May 15, 2025 11:27 am

god shammgod wrote:the knicks have overpaid in some ways for everyone after brunson. i like og a lot but he was paid a bit too much money for his level of player. the 5 picks for mikal are self explanatory. and you might think randle/divo isn't that much for kat but we're paying him 50 and eventually 60 million dollars. he's one of the highest paid players in the league. we're getting nothing close to the level of production we need from him for that much money. our other center is making 15 mill and is outplaying him this series.


This is a great point. The Knicks are over invested in this core and it’s why the roster is flawed. No one besides Brunson can create a shot and you can’t rely on Mitch to stay healthy. Looking forward to the team has a bloated cap sheet and no draft picks and outside of trading one of the wings very few ways to improve the roster.

Look - you do this to give yourself a shot that things break your way and you can make a run. And the way things stand right now the Knicks have their best shot to win a title since 1994. Next year the league is wide open.

There are going to be times to discuss these moves and their effects over the next 6 years. Now just enjoy this run because you never know when you’re getting another run like this.
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Re: PG: First road loss in this playoff 

Post#258 » by dakomish23 » Thu May 15, 2025 11:29 am

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dakomish23 wrote:KP really has given them nothing this series

we HAVE to grab this, because I don't know if there will be another chance as big as this.
Tatum out, KP totally banged up, Brown and Jrue also didn't look a 100% before last night. Hauser is on one ankle.
... And we have basically everybody healthy.


I think we could have had this one if they didn’t implode. I think we’re coming out on fire on Friday.
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Re: PG: First road loss in this playoff 

Post#259 » by prophet_of_rage » Thu May 15, 2025 11:37 am

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That 3rd quarter really did not set us up to win.

They took the paint away with Kornet blocking everything that came around. I don't even know if that was the Celtics' game plan, or if a light bulb went off on Kornet's head.

They called 5 fouls on Brunson in that quarter. Has that ever happened to him? Rather than rest him at the start of the 4th, Thibs decided to just continue playing him until he fouled out.

I really think it's more complicated than the Knicks not playing hard enough or the Celtics wanting it more. If the players are talking about needing to see film, they know it too.

We were good until that 3rd quarter collapse.


This is how we win game 6
OG on Brown
Mikal on White
Brunson on jrue
Hart on KP (it should be Mitch starting but Thibs is an Idiot)
KAT on horford

THATS IT, STOP LETTING WHITE SHOOT THE DAMN BALL


KP is a non-factor

They're gonna go with Kornet.

We need the double big lineup of KAT and Mitch physically overwhelm Kornet and kill whatever confidence he gained this game.
We had that in the 4th. I don't think it mattered much.

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Re: PG: First road loss in this playoff 

Post#260 » by NoStatsGuy » Thu May 15, 2025 11:41 am

Wildcat wrote:
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Wildcat wrote:
Slight correction here.

OG money had nothing to do with I-Hart. Knicks signed I-Hart to a deal that only gave them Early Bird Rights. Meaning they could only offer him a max of 175% of his contract. Knicks offered that deal.

Only mistake the Knicks did was not signing I-Hart to a 3 year deal instead of his initial 2 year deal. 3 year deal would have given the Knicks his full Bird Rights and would be able to match whatever overpaid OKC wanted to do.

I still say I-Hart should've taken the Knicks guarantee 4/72 over OKC's 2/59 because his 3rd is a team option, and I don't think OKC is going to pick it up Chet, Dort, and eventually SGA are going to have extensions coming up. I-Hart is the first contract to go.


lets not forget ihart was a scrub off the bench before he showed up last year. when julius and mitch were hurt. in hindsight yea, we should have signed him on a different contract. but thats easy to say now. No team wanted too keep him. Ihart made his money in last years playoffs and the stretch before. I dont know if we would have been able to restructurer in like february or marrch. but we were bound to lose hart. noone else would have paid him 30 mil a year. I mean hes nice, but is he 30 mil a year nice? i dont know.


Yeah, Knicks gave him a deal that hell of a deal from his 1.7 mil to 8.8 mil. I was hoodwink in believing I-Hart would stay with NY on 4/72 because I was sold on this loyalty BS. Joke was on me.

And nay, we couldn't do anything to keep I-Hart. I also don't think he's a 30 mil guy last Summer, but his current stats of 11/10/4 suggests he's 30 mil guy.


yup defintiley feel you on that. he said on the roommates show, that he wanted to take a paycut to stay with the clippers. but they didnt even offer him anything. i think thier books were petty stacked tho with kawhi and pg, both supermax guys at that time.

but yea i definitley wanted him to stay aswell. i cant fault him for taking that bag tho. i just secretly hope it bites OKC in the ass eventually :D
and he might come back, who knows. i had the impression he loved it here
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