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2025 NBA Draft

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Trade 1 of our picks for a Player
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24%
Trade both of our picks for Player
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39%
Trade both of our picks to move up in the draft
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#1361 » by yoyojw17 » Thu May 15, 2025 2:39 pm

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Skybox wrote:SAS has a decision to make...Dylan Harper is far and away the #2 pick that they lucked into. Castle is the ROY, had some of his best play on-ball, but is very capable as an off-ball cutter and ferocious defender. De'Aaron Fox is a classic, small, lightning-quick PG who needs the ball. Wemby is still very young, despite his awesome performance already...SAS should move #2 and stuff to go for Giannis or Durant, etc in a win-now move OR draft Harper for an amazing youthful, beautifully complementary trio of Wemby, Castle & Harper (not to mention Vassell, Sochan, #14 and whatever they could get for Fox (which would be considerable)...personally, I love the youthful option, for financial and long-term fit reasons.

They could always think less ambitiously and trade back a little bit for Bailey and a future pick (or other significant asset).

With #2 & @14, they run the draft...like we did in 2021 (and SHOULD HAVE in 2023)

It's kind of weird to move off Fox while barely getting a look at him, but I think they should do it...to ORL


SAS is going to use 2 in a Giannis trade it just seems fitting.

The second i saw them get #2.... i thought.... Giannis. lol

Vassell + Keldon Johnson +#2 + Future draft capital.... i can see that getting done very easily

Then they would be "Left with" Fox+Castle+Barnes+Giannis+Wemby....yeah.... i'm pretty sure they already tried calling this one in.
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Post#1362 » by Skybox » Thu May 15, 2025 2:45 pm

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
Skybox wrote:SAS has a decision to make...Dylan Harper is far and away the #2 pick that they lucked into. Castle is the ROY, had some of his best play on-ball, but is very capable as an off-ball cutter and ferocious defender. De'Aaron Fox is a classic, small, lightning-quick PG who needs the ball. Wemby is still very young, despite his awesome performance already...SAS should move #2 and stuff to go for Giannis or Durant, etc in a win-now move OR draft Harper for an amazing youthful, beautifully complementary trio of Wemby, Castle & Harper (not to mention Vassell, Sochan, #14 and whatever they could get for Fox (which would be considerable)...personally, I love the youthful option, for financial and long-term fit reasons.

They could always think less ambitiously and trade back a little bit for Bailey and a future pick (or other significant asset).

With #2 & @14, they run the draft...like we did in 2021 (and SHOULD HAVE in 2023)

It's kind of weird to move off Fox while barely getting a look at him, but I think they should do it...to ORL


SAS is going to use 2 in a Giannis trade it just seems fitting.


Or, they won't...I like Harper's upside more than Fox's. I don't think their supporting cast is quite ready to contend...it could be amazing, but IF I was them, I'd take a longer view...I posted mine in trade thread.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#1363 » by cedric76 » Thu May 15, 2025 2:55 pm

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#1364 » by pepe1991 » Thu May 15, 2025 2:58 pm

I can't be only one who doesn't even bother with draft this year? Like, i'm not going through draft reports to find out who's next Tristan Da Silva? :lol:
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Post#1365 » by RichCollab » Thu May 15, 2025 3:08 pm

pepe1991 wrote:I can't be only one who doesn't even bother with draft this year? Like, i'm not going through draft reports to find out who's next Tristan Da Silva? :lol:


You mean the next Maxey.
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Post#1366 » by T-Cat » Thu May 15, 2025 3:54 pm

drsd wrote:Dear PBO Weltman:

Please trade one or both of these picks.

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#1367 » by eyriq » Thu May 15, 2025 4:04 pm

The KISS pick is Walter Clayton.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#1368 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Thu May 15, 2025 4:22 pm

eyriq wrote:The KISS pick is Walter Clayton.

After you trade 16 and player for a playmaking guard and also move Cole sure.
A scoring guard.. never heard of one. :roll:
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#1369 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Thu May 15, 2025 4:23 pm

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Please trade one or both of these picks.

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I’d trade Black for VJ straight up but I think we’d have to add something else. VJ is going to be a talent for sure
A scoring guard.. never heard of one. :roll:
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#1370 » by T-Cat » Thu May 15, 2025 4:43 pm

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
T-Cat wrote:
drsd wrote:Dear PBO Weltman:

Please trade one or both of these picks.

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I’d trade Black for VJ straight up but I think we’d have to add something else. VJ is going to be a talent for sure


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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#1371 » by Skybox » Thu May 15, 2025 5:39 pm

So Jase Richardson measured small and sliding…would we let him pass us at #16

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#1372 » by RichCollab » Thu May 15, 2025 5:45 pm

eyriq wrote:The KISS pick is Walter Clayton.


It’s not because we need guards already ready to play.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#1373 » by RichCollab » Thu May 15, 2025 5:46 pm

Skybox wrote:So Jase Richardson measured small and sliding…would we let him pass us at #16

Save the “I’d trade the pick” …me too, but just contemplating draft


Jase Richardson is a name I’m interested in as a potential Cole replacement.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#1374 » by pepe1991 » Thu May 15, 2025 6:05 pm

Still crazy how one misserable season for 76ers actually saved them long term.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#1375 » by Idiosyncratic » Thu May 15, 2025 6:07 pm

Skybox wrote:So Jase Richardson measured small and sliding…would we let him pass us at #16

Save the “I’d trade the pick” …me too, but just contemplating draft


I would take Jase. Even if he isn't a PG I think there are many lineups he can play off-ball on our team due to our other guards being elite defenders. I'm not even sure Jase will be terrible on defense, he showed good effort there and has solid length. Obviously would still want to trade for a lead guard, but Jase/AB off the bench makes me happy and I like his fit in lineups where Mose allows Paolo and Franz to run "point" ( yes, it will still happen at times no matter who we get).

The problem with Jase is how much value does a smaller shooter that isn't a lead ball-handler have? Pretty similar in size to off-ball guards like Miles McBride and Pritchard, but if that is best case it isn't someone teams usually want to invest a high pick in, but at the same time that is a player we could really use. Plus there is a chance he has more creation and passing than he showed, since he was a freshman that was eased into his role. I do have a bit of concern about his burst though.

Basically have to bet on him being an outlier and/or hope he has some extra hidden creation, so it does make sense for him to slip a bit. I personally would still take a shot at 16, but understand those who wouldn't. I think Jase/Traore/Clayton and maybe even Pettiford is an interesting debate. All guards with scoring upside, I think I would be thrilled to end up with any of them at this point. Obviously some will bust, but I mean some of the top 10 picks are going to bust, just how it works.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#1376 » by RichCollab » Thu May 15, 2025 6:20 pm

Idiosyncratic wrote:
Skybox wrote:So Jase Richardson measured small and sliding…would we let him pass us at #16

Save the “I’d trade the pick” …me too, but just contemplating draft


I would take Jase. Even if he isn't a PG I think there are many lineups he can play off-ball on our team due to our other guards being elite defenders. I'm not even sure Jase will be terrible on defense, he showed good effort there and has solid length. Obviously would still want to trade for a lead guard, but Jase/AB off the bench makes me happy and I like his fit in lineups where Mose allows Paolo and Franz to run "point" ( yes, it will still happen at times no matter who we get).

The problem with Jase is how much value does a smaller shooter that isn't a lead ball-handler have? Pretty similar in size to off-ball guards like Miles McBride and Pritchard, but if that is best case it isn't someone teams usually want to invest a high pick in, but at the same time that is a player we could really use. Plus there is a chance he has more creation and passing than he showed, since he was a freshman that was eased into his role. I do have a bit of concern about his burst though.

Basically have to bet on him being an outlier and/or hope he has some extra hidden creation, so it does make sense for him to slip a bit. I personally would still take a shot at 16, but understand those who wouldn't. I think Jase/Traore/Clayton and maybe even Pettiford is an interesting debate. All guards with scoring upside, I think I would be thrilled to end up with any of them at this point. Obviously some will bust, but I mean some of the top 10 picks are going to bust, just how it works.




There has to be an obvious talent gap in players on the table if you draft an undersized player. It’s such a disadvantage out of the gate.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#1377 » by Audi » Thu May 15, 2025 6:25 pm

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pepe1991 wrote:I can't be only one who doesn't even bother with draft this year? Like, i'm not going through draft reports to find out who's next Tristan Da Silva? :lol:


You mean the next Maxey.


Or Joker…Giannis…list goes on

But pepe probably just means that knowing this FO they will with absolute certainty pass on those prospects for the next Reece Gaines or something. *sniff* :lol:
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#1378 » by basketballRob » Thu May 15, 2025 6:26 pm

If you look at Coward. He's a SG with a 7'2" wingspan. It would be hard to take Richardson over him.

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#1379 » by Idiosyncratic » Thu May 15, 2025 6:30 pm

RichCollab wrote:
Idiosyncratic wrote:
Skybox wrote:So Jase Richardson measured small and sliding…would we let him pass us at #16

Save the “I’d trade the pick” …me too, but just contemplating draft


I would take Jase. Even if he isn't a PG I think there are many lineups he can play off-ball on our team due to our other guards being elite defenders. I'm not even sure Jase will be terrible on defense, he showed good effort there and has solid length. Obviously would still want to trade for a lead guard, but Jase/AB off the bench makes me happy and I like his fit in lineups where Mose allows Paolo and Franz to run "point" ( yes, it will still happen at times no matter who we get).

The problem with Jase is how much value does a smaller shooter that isn't a lead ball-handler have? Pretty similar in size to off-ball guards like Miles McBride and Pritchard, but if that is best case it isn't someone teams usually want to invest a high pick in, but at the same time that is a player we could really use. Plus there is a chance he has more creation and passing than he showed, since he was a freshman that was eased into his role. I do have a bit of concern about his burst though.

Basically have to bet on him being an outlier and/or hope he has some extra hidden creation, so it does make sense for him to slip a bit. I personally would still take a shot at 16, but understand those who wouldn't. I think Jase/Traore/Clayton and maybe even Pettiford is an interesting debate. All guards with scoring upside, I think I would be thrilled to end up with any of them at this point. Obviously some will bust, but I mean some of the top 10 picks are going to bust, just how it works.




There has to be an obvious talent gap in players on the table if you draft an undersized player. It’s such a disadvantage out of the gate.


I agree completely, and especially with Jase who doesn't look to have surefire PG skills.

But at the same time 49/41/84 as a freshman with good rim finishing numbers and flashes of creation and handle is still intriguing. And I didn't see him as a total non-defender, he tries on that end and has decent length. I also think he is going to fit best on a team with big guards or forwards that can handle the ball, we check those boxes to some extent at least.

It is definitely an interesting discussion and I absolutely agree his stock should be down some with his official height measurement. I can definitely see arguments for the other guards over him. I am biased here, I really like how he plays, I became a huge fan of his watching him play this year. I just like players who seem to always make the right play.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#1380 » by basketballRob » Thu May 15, 2025 7:37 pm

Idiosyncratic wrote:
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I would take Jase. Even if he isn't a PG I think there are many lineups he can play off-ball on our team due to our other guards being elite defenders. I'm not even sure Jase will be terrible on defense, he showed good effort there and has solid length. Obviously would still want to trade for a lead guard, but Jase/AB off the bench makes me happy and I like his fit in lineups where Mose allows Paolo and Franz to run "point" ( yes, it will still happen at times no matter who we get).

The problem with Jase is how much value does a smaller shooter that isn't a lead ball-handler have? Pretty similar in size to off-ball guards like Miles McBride and Pritchard, but if that is best case it isn't someone teams usually want to invest a high pick in, but at the same time that is a player we could really use. Plus there is a chance he has more creation and passing than he showed, since he was a freshman that was eased into his role. I do have a bit of concern about his burst though.

Basically have to bet on him being an outlier and/or hope he has some extra hidden creation, so it does make sense for him to slip a bit. I personally would still take a shot at 16, but understand those who wouldn't. I think Jase/Traore/Clayton and maybe even Pettiford is an interesting debate. All guards with scoring upside, I think I would be thrilled to end up with any of them at this point. Obviously some will bust, but I mean some of the top 10 picks are going to bust, just how it works.




There has to be an obvious talent gap in players on the table if you draft an undersized player. It’s such a disadvantage out of the gate.


I agree completely, and especially with Jase who doesn't look to have surefire PG skills.

But at the same time 49/41/84 as a freshman with good rim finishing numbers and flashes of creation and handle is still intriguing. And I didn't see him as a total non-defender, he tries on that end and has decent length. I also think he is going to fit best on a team with big guards or forwards that can handle the ball, we check those boxes to some extent at least.

It is definitely an interesting discussion and I absolutely agree his stock should be down some with his official height measurement. I can definitely see arguments for the other guards over him. I am biased here, I really like how he plays, I became a huge fan of his watching him play this year. I just like players who seem to always make the right play.
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