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Post#1 » by ILOVEIT » Thu May 15, 2025 6:31 am

Mine - Please for the love of god trade Draymond and let's STOP rolling out this small ball crap. The reason we play Draymond is because we have no legit defensive size.

Trade Kuminga for Cam Johnson. Warriors HAVE to dramatically improve shooting. Cam's a big dude able to create or spot up from three.

Trade Podz and bring in a legit big guard. I don't give a crap if Podz is a scrappy guy that does other things. If he doesn't shoot the rock with ANY consistency, it's a problem.

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Post#2 » by Romulus » Thu May 15, 2025 6:39 am

ILOVEIT wrote:Mine - Please for the love of god trade Draymond and let's STOP rolling out this small ball crap. The reason we play Draymond is because we have no legit defensive size.

Trade Kuminga for Cam Johnson. Warriors HAVE to dramatically improve shooting. Cam's a big dude able to create or spot up from three.

Trade Podz and bring in a legit big guard. I don't give a crap if Podz is a scrappy guy that does other things. If he doesn't shoot the rock with ANY consistency, it's a problem.

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I'm all in! Trades have to be made. Draymond at center can't happen next year, whether they trade him or not. My god, Draymond made Adams look like prime Shaq. And really, it's not his fault. It's Kerr's (and the FO) for deciding to structure their roster in such a flawed way.
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Post#3 » by superunknown » Thu May 15, 2025 7:18 am

Romulus wrote:
ILOVEIT wrote:Mine - Please for the love of god trade Draymond and let's STOP rolling out this small ball crap. The reason we play Draymond is because we have no legit defensive size.

Trade Kuminga for Cam Johnson. Warriors HAVE to dramatically improve shooting. Cam's a big dude able to create or spot up from three.

Trade Podz and bring in a legit big guard. I don't give a crap if Podz is a scrappy guy that does other things. If he doesn't shoot the rock with ANY consistency, it's a problem.

Curry, BIG GUARD, Jimmy, Johnson, DEFENSIVE CENTER/POST


I'm all in! Trades have to be made. Draymond at center can't happen next year, whether they trade him or not. My god, Draymond made Adams look like prime Shaq. And really, it's not his fault. It's Kerr's (and the FO) for deciding to structure their roster in such a flawed way.


totally agree.
times change, dray as much as he can still be elite defensively at times has become too much of a liability on offense which, combined with his lack of size for the C position, makes very difficult to fit other players. this organization's already let (rightfully so) a legend like klay walk, as sad as it is because we're talking about another legend, it's time to let him go as well.
dubs need a starting SG who can shoot/score (cannot be podz nor moody), a wing that can shoot (cam johnson would be a great fit alongside jimmy) and a legit C:

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Post#4 » by SpreeS » Thu May 15, 2025 10:18 am

We are in the loop with Green. As everybody see Green days as center is over. Also with no shooting forwards (Green/Butler) we need center who would be spacer and good defender/rebounder to have significant impact from this position. How many these players are in NBA and how many of them are reachable for us? I would say totally zero, b/c they are to expensive for us and we dont have trade assets to get them.
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Post#5 » by superunknown » Thu May 15, 2025 10:53 am

SpreeS wrote:We are in the loop with Green. As everybody see Green days as center is over. Also with no shooting forwards (Green/Butler) we need center who would be spacer and good defender/rebounder to have significant impact from this position. How many these players are in NBA and how many of them are reachable for us? I would say totally zero, b/c they are to expensive for us and we dont have trade assets to get them.


well, a true starting SG who could shoot and space on a consistent basis the floor would be a good starting point. but yes, green is an issue in the current configuration.
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Post#6 » by SpreeS » Thu May 15, 2025 11:45 am

superunknown wrote:
SpreeS wrote:We are in the loop with Green. As everybody see Green days as center is over. Also with no shooting forwards (Green/Butler) we need center who would be spacer and good defender/rebounder to have significant impact from this position. How many these players are in NBA and how many of them are reachable for us? I would say totally zero, b/c they are to expensive for us and we dont have trade assets to get them.


well, a true starting SG who could shoot and space on a consistent basis the floor would be a good starting point. but yes, green is an issue in the current configuration.


Look at NBA.COM Randle matchup (offense) vs Green. I cann't imagine what could do Jokic against Green...also Edwards did whatever he wanted against Butler/Podz/Hield...Spencer per 2min got 14pts from Edwards
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Post#7 » by superunknown » Thu May 15, 2025 2:46 pm

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superunknown wrote:
SpreeS wrote:We are in the loop with Green. As everybody see Green days as center is over. Also with no shooting forwards (Green/Butler) we need center who would be spacer and good defender/rebounder to have significant impact from this position. How many these players are in NBA and how many of them are reachable for us? I would say totally zero, b/c they are to expensive for us and we dont have trade assets to get them.


well, a true starting SG who could shoot and space on a consistent basis the floor would be a good starting point. but yes, green is an issue in the current configuration.


Look at NBA.COM Randle matchup (offense) vs Green. I cann't imagine what could do Jokic against Green...also Edwards did whatever he wanted against Butler/Podz/Hield...Spencer per 2min got 14pts from Edwards


yes, but the issue is not strictly defensively.
you could live with randle having a great offensive series if on the other side of the ball green gives it back somehow, giving you for instance 20 points. but he cannot, so in the moment in which he cannot slow these guys down defensively, he pretty much becomes a liability. that's why, in general, this team needs to add shooting and scoring across the board. as good as you are defensively, there will always be situations when the opponents get hot and even if you do your best they drop 30. you gotta be able to get hot as well in order to keep it close. it cannot be just about defense, at some point you gotta be able to score consistently as well.
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Post#8 » by Onus » Thu May 15, 2025 3:04 pm

a lot of needs

Backup PG
POA defender
3+D Big Wing
2 way Big
Rim Protector
More shooting

DSJ can fill the backup pg and poa defender.
3+D big wing will need to be filled by trade.
2 way big / rim protector will need to be filled by trade.

Pat Williams + 12 for JK is intriguing and maybe with Jimmy/Dray behind Pat he becomes a better defender. Then Sorber/Bryant/Fleming/maybe Coward at 12.

Curry/DSJ
Podz/Buddy
Jimmy/MM
Pat/Santos
Dray/Post/TJD

12 - Flagg, Harper, Bailey, VJ, Tre, Fears, CMB, Sorber, Bryant, Fleming, Coward, Kon, Maluach, Joan - I'd be happy with any of these guys at 12.

Then I think we have enough for the mle? and depending on who we draft Adams, Harris, Beasley, Yabusele
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Post#9 » by Crazy-Canuck » Thu May 15, 2025 3:12 pm

Pat Williams is horrible. I think Santos is already better and much cheaper.
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Post#10 » by cpower » Thu May 15, 2025 3:13 pm

who is the best 3D JK we can S/T him for?
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Post#11 » by Jester_ » Thu May 15, 2025 3:18 pm

jk aint getting us a 3D
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Post#12 » by Crazy-Canuck » Thu May 15, 2025 3:26 pm

cpower wrote:who is the best 3D JK we can S/T him for?



That's the list of SFs. And in that list, maybe 10ish can be considered 2 way types or even 3 and D. Now add in the 30M (or even 20M) jk might still be looking for, that leaves us with:

Jimmy
KD
J.Brown
Kawhi
OG
Wiggins
Bridges
D.Brooks
D. Hunter

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/rankings/player/_/year/2025/position/sf/sort/cap_base

It's a short list.
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Post#13 » by Onus » Thu May 15, 2025 3:34 pm

Crazy-Canuck wrote:Pat Williams is horrible. I think Santos is already better and much cheaper.

Is he? I don't watch a lot of Bulls games but seeing that he can stand up Giannis, means he can take on the bigger pfs that Jimmy struggles against, which will allow Dray to continue to be a roamer rather than having to man up on defense.
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Post#14 » by Onus » Thu May 15, 2025 3:36 pm

I really want like an Aaron Nesmith. Can Moses Moody be that?
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Post#15 » by Crazy-Canuck » Thu May 15, 2025 3:54 pm

Onus wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:Pat Williams is horrible. I think Santos is already better and much cheaper.

Is he? I don't watch a lot of Bulls games but seeing that he can stand up Giannis, means he can take on the bigger pfs that Jimmy struggles against, which will allow Dray to continue to be a roamer rather than having to man up on defense.


Outside of athleticism and draft slot, Santos is better at virtually everything else.

18M/year for a situational player isn't the best use of our cap.
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Post#16 » by jaymo123 » Thu May 15, 2025 4:53 pm

1. Please add a new offense. Don't get rid of the motion offense, just add something to it to. Maybe more post ups for Jimmy, incorporate a form of the triangle offense, something for the players that have trouble creating for others or themselves.

2. Trade Kuminga and possibly others for a 3 & D (at least average) wing who is also a decent rebounder. Kuminga with his size and athleticism should never go a game without a rebound. A guy who can play the 2, 3, or 4 for the dubs. However, the options may be limited because of Kuminga's current contract and his RFA status.

3. Sign or trade for a true backup pg, Podz is not the answer. Tyus and Trey Jones are available, a trade for Jose Alvarado, Pippen Jr., or Keyonte George from Utah

4. SIGN OR TRADE FOR A TRUE CENTER. The dubs need a center who can defend, rebound, and finish around the rim without pumpfaking 100 times. I love Looney, but I'm tired of seeing him wide open and taking forever to get his shot up. My choices would be Plumlee, Adams, Kessler, or Lopez. Plumlee, Adams, and Kessler will rebound, block shots, and play capable D while Lopez would be an excellent offensive big who can actually post up, shoot floaters, and shoot the 3. All are capable passers.
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Post#17 » by whatisacenter » Thu May 15, 2025 4:56 pm

Onus wrote:I really want like an Aaron Nesmith. Can Moses Moody be that?


Nesmith is far more athletic than Moody.

I wish Podz could be like TJ McConnell.
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Post#18 » by Onus » Thu May 15, 2025 5:00 pm

whatisacenter wrote:
Onus wrote:I really want like an Aaron Nesmith. Can Moses Moody be that?


Nesmith is far more athletic than Moody.

I wish Podz could be like TJ McConnell.

Moody's defense really improved his shot just abandoned him and with Steph out we needed someone anyone to take shots. Moody wasn't able to take or make shots. He and Podz both need to get over it and just start letting it fly.
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Post#19 » by whatisacenter » Thu May 15, 2025 5:03 pm

Onus wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:
Onus wrote:I really want like an Aaron Nesmith. Can Moses Moody be that?


Nesmith is far more athletic than Moody.

I wish Podz could be like TJ McConnell.

Moody's defense really improved his shot just abandoned him and with Steph out we needed someone anyone to take shots. Moody wasn't able to take or make shots. He and Podz both need to get over it and just start letting it fly.


His D improved but he still can't sniff Nesmith, IMO.
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Post#20 » by vvoland » Thu May 15, 2025 5:10 pm

If this is a wish list, I'm still going to trumpet Myles Turner. If we're looking a bit more realistic, I'd try to S&T Naz or trade for KP (capologists would find it difficult, I'm sure). If we're going under the radar, I'd try to cajole a useful player out of someone like John Collins - an athletic PF/C type that can (possibly) stretch the floor. There's a big money gamble that'll be possible on KP but I can't imagine dray and KP on the same team. There will be options for a smaller dollar amount for folks like brook.

I'm sure there are terrible underlying numbers to Collins but considering the disasters he's played for, I'm hopeful he can be a reclamation project in the wiggins mold. I believe he's about 20m/yr. I'd much rather take a shot on collins than trying vuc or overpaying for lauri. young enough to have something else we're not seeing and he could turn into a slightly bigger PJ (another person to target).

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