Bears 11.0: Free Agency, College Pro days, Draft & beyond

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I don’t see how ppl can read this stuff and not realize how much a disservice we were to Justin as well. Flus was such a train wreck. Wow.

The stuff about watching film was about Shane Waldron, not Luke Getzy. So it didn’t apply to Fields. Not that Luke Getzy provided great coaching for Fields. Or Nagy for that matter. But we’ve been through all this numerous times. Caleb was sacked 70 times. There’s a strong possibility that the recent Bears quarterbacks made the OCs and O-Lines look bad, and vice versa.

[sco]

I feel like Caleb thinks he's doing some damage control to his stock here, but it comes across as not taking ownership of his own lack of improvement last year. The coaching staff failed to put the right team around him and call the right plays, to be sure. I think at the end-of-the-day, he got the y*ps. Just want him to pull out of the nose dive this season. His fear of actually throwing the ball unless a receiver was 5 yards open toward the end was painful.

[NesimLE]

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I don’t see how ppl can read this stuff and not realize how much a disservice we were to Justin as well. Flus was such a train wreck. Wow.

The stuff about watching film was about Shane Waldron, not Luke Getzy. So it didn’t apply to Fields. Not that Luke Getzy provided great coaching for Fields. Or Nagy for that matter. But we’ve been through all this numerous times. Caleb was sacked 70 times. There’s a strong possibility that the recent Bears quarterbacks made the OCs and O-Lines look bad, and vice versa.

I don't know, I don't find it difficult to believe the OC is the issue if they aren't reviewing film, or even aligning the route trees/timing and protection with dropbacks, but instead letting the QB figure it out. Does that really inspire confidence that receivers will be open on time and where the QB happens to be looking when he reaches the pocket? Or that he'll know where the pressure might come from on any given play and have a hot option ready to deal with the blitz? Or even that there's a dump off option available on any given play? According to one post I saw last week "when we scouted their offense last year, no ****, we laughed out loud sometimes. None of it made sense! "

This of course doesn't speak as to how good Getsy was at his job, but he managed to get fired in Vegas a week and a half BEFORE Waldron did...

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I don’t see how ppl can read this stuff and not realize how much a disservice we were to Justin as well. Flus was such a train wreck. Wow.

The stuff about watching film was about Shane Waldron, not Luke Getzy. So it didn’t apply to Fields. Not that Luke Getzy provided great coaching for Fields. Or Nagy for that matter. But we’ve been through all this numerous times. Caleb was sacked 70 times. There’s a strong possibility that the recent Bears quarterbacks made the OCs and O-Lines look bad, and vice versa.

I don't know, I don't find it difficult to believe the OC is the issue if they aren't reviewing film, or even aligning the route trees/timing and protection with dropbacks, but instead letting the QB figure it out. Does that really inspire confidence that receivers will be open on time and where the QB happens to be looking when he reaches the pocket? Or that he'll know where the pressure might come from on any given play and have a hot option ready to deal with the blitz? Or even that there's a dump off option available on any given play? According to one post I saw last week "when we scouted their offense last year, no ****, we laughed out loud sometimes. None of it made sense! "

This of course doesn't speak as to how good Getsy was at his job, but he managed to get fired in Vegas a week and a half BEFORE Waldron did...

I don’t have confidence in anything about Getsy and Waldron. They had success before they came to the Bears, that’s all I know. Maybe the players that coaches coach have something to do with their own performances.

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I feel like Caleb thinks he's doing some damage control to his stock here, but it comes across as not taking ownership of his own lack of improvement last year. The coaching staff failed to put the right team around him and call the right plays, to be sure. I think at the end-of-the-day, he got the y*ps. Just want him to pull out of the nose dive this season. His fear of actually throwing the ball unless a receiver was 5 yards open toward the end was painful.

3500 yards 20 TDs 6 INTs with almost no guidance. I don’t care how you try and explain it, he had a good rookie year.

Hell considering what is being described behind the scenes he had an amazing year, factoring in he wasn’t getting extra help with film.

He legitimately had a top 5 statistical QB season for a 100 year old franchise equipped with a lame duck coach and incompetent OC for the first half of the season and for the second half of the season an interim coach who was fired less than a year prior for failing to show promising development with a QB who was the #1 pick the previous year

Considering how coaching and stability went for Caleb last year, he was completely justified and actually proven right that he should’ve been concerned about being drafted by the Bears.

[sco]

I feel like Caleb thinks he's doing some damage control to his stock here, but it comes across as not taking ownership of his own lack of improvement last year. The coaching staff failed to put the right team around him and call the right plays, to be sure. I think at the end-of-the-day, he got the y*ps. Just want him to pull out of the nose dive this season. His fear of actually throwing the ball unless a receiver was 5 yards open toward the end was painful.

3500 yards 20 TDs 6 INTs with almost no guidance. I don’t care how you try and explain it, he had a good rookie year.

Hell considering what is being described behind the scenes he had an amazing year, factoring in he wasn’t getting extra help with film.

He legitimately had a top 5 statistical QB season for a 100 year old franchise equipped with a lame duck coach and incompetent OC for the first half of the season and for the second half of the season an interim coach who was fired less than a year prior for failing to show promising development with a QB who was the #1 pick the previous year

Considering how coaching and stability went for Caleb last year, he was completely justified and actually proven right that he should’ve been concerned about being drafted by the Bears.

Nobody is gonna convince me he didn't have the yips. I'm not saying he doesn't have potential still.

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More confirmation that things should be different for the offense, at least from a coaching/teaching perspective.

[dice]

If we hadn't signed Dayo in the off season it would be a no brainer to take on Hendrickson. But we gave Dayo a $48 Million deal with almost $30 million guaranteed. That being said do you think adding Hendrickson gets us to the Super Bowl this year? I have to think that if the O-Line can gel in time we'd at least make it to the NFC Final against the Eagles.

the reality is that adding him might not make us better at all in the present,

wait what?

you left out the answer to your question

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This makes sense. Some of it still falls on Caleb.

[dice]

I feel like Caleb thinks he's doing some damage control to his stock here, but it comes across as not taking ownership of his own lack of improvement last year. The coaching staff failed to put the right team around him and call the right plays, to be sure. I think at the end-of-the-day, he got the y*ps. Just want him to pull out of the nose dive this season. His fear of actually throwing the ball unless a receiver was 5 yards open toward the end was painful.

He legitimately had a top 5 statistical QB season

he legitimately did not come close to that. sub-50 QBR, significantly trailing both nix and maye (who had much worse supporting cast)

worst catchable throw rates on deep passes in the last 4 years:

32.8 caleb
35.8 mac jones 2023
39.4 zach wilson 2022

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[cocktailswith_2short]

"Caleb Williams sought to avoid bears ". You guys are so screwed .

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"Caleb Williams sought to avoid bears ". You guys are so screwed .

It’s only another embarrassment for Poles and McCaskey. Then again, Poles convinced Caleb to give it a shot. Then again, Poles and McCaskey screwed Caleb for trusting them. Enter Ben Johnson, hopefully, it been unscrewed.

All that matters now is if Caleb is any good. If not, then yeah, the FO should be well screwed. It already has possibly boned up the choice of Caleb over 1 or 2 other guys. That’s not yet settled science.

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This was concerning. It’s in the past now but it concerns me that they went this hard on the record.

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This was concerning. It’s in the past now but it concerns me that they went this hard on the record.

Depends when they told the writer. Was this already in the can, or freshly revealed to the writer? If Caleb’s camp is still churning this up, that would be not fine.

[TheJordanRule]

Call it desperation, cuz he's not the beast he once was, but Von Miller anyone? He can return to form half the time at least. We still need more of a pass rush.

[TheJordanRule]

"Caleb Williams sought to avoid bears ". You guys are so screwed .

It’s only another embarrassment for Poles and McCaskey. Then again, Poles convinced Caleb to give it a shot. Then again, Poles and McCaskey screwed Caleb for trusting them. Enter Ben Johnson, hopefully, it been unscrewed.

All that matters now is if Caleb is any good. If not, then yeah, the FO should be well screwed. It already has possibly boned up the choice of Caleb over 1 or 2 other guys. That’s not yet settled science.

Most overhyped concern. We're past those days and no other ballclub has supported a QB THIS MUCH after the offseason we've just had.

[Dresden]

"Caleb Williams sought to avoid bears ". You guys are so screwed .

It’s only another embarrassment for Poles and McCaskey. Then again, Poles convinced Caleb to give it a shot. Then again, Poles and McCaskey screwed Caleb for trusting them. Enter Ben Johnson, hopefully, it been unscrewed.

All that matters now is if Caleb is any good. If not, then yeah, the FO should be well screwed. It already has possibly boned up the choice of Caleb over 1 or 2 other guys. That’s not yet settled science.

Most overhyped concern. We're past those days and no other ballclub has supported a QB THIS MUCH after the offseason we've just had.

Good point. It's a moot issue what happened last year. They are set to roll this year.

[fleet]

"Caleb Williams sought to avoid bears ". You guys are so screwed .

It’s only another embarrassment for Poles and McCaskey. Then again, Poles convinced Caleb to give it a shot. Then again, Poles and McCaskey screwed Caleb for trusting them. Enter Ben Johnson, hopefully, it been unscrewed.

All that matters now is if Caleb is any good. If not, then yeah, the FO should be well screwed. It already has possibly boned up the choice of Caleb over 1 or 2 other guys. That’s not yet settled science.

Most overhyped concern. We're past those days and no other ballclub has supported a QB THIS MUCH after the offseason we've just had.

There’s a new sheriff or 2 running the Bears. I expect the dysfunction and gross incompetence to now end.

[imagge]

Caleb and his Father pointed out pre draft that Waldron and Eberflus was not going to work. Most excerpts from the book was info taking BEFORE he got drafted to the Bears. That shows incredible insight on the individuals that were in charge of directing his career. His performance legitimized his PRE DRAFT fear and the tibits after he was drafted was the finishing touches. NFL football is a different game, no rookie learns how to watch NFL film by himself??? I have read that some feel he had the yipps? I am sure some form of that was true because it is real possible that he was not watching the correct information on film which translated to being unsure on Sundays!?