ORL/BOS/BKN - Jrue, Black, KCP, picks

[djFan71]

ORL in: Jrue, Fake 2nd
ORL out: A Black, KCP, Jett, 27 ORL 1st swap rights**, ORL 29 2nd

BOS in: A Black, ORL 29 2nd
BOS out: Jrue, 2026 BOS 1st*

BKN out: Fake 2nd***
BKN in: 2026 BOS 1st*, 27 ORL 1st swap rights, KCP, Jett

* 2026 BOS 1st top 4 protected for 2026, top 4 for 2027. Resolves as top 1 protected 2028 1st. SAS owns top 1 protected swap rights to that pick, BKN gest it after. If #1, BKN gets 29 & 31 BOS 2nds.
** BKN can swap the worst of its resultant 1sts from other swaps with ORL 1st.
*** 2026 BKN 2nd Top 55 protected.


Why for BOS: Get Black as good young, cost-controlled player. Save $24.4M next year.

Why for ORL: Upgrade from Black to Jrue. Saves $2.7M next year. Get off KCP contract. Lose a 2nd and possible swap in 26.

Why for BKN: Picks. The 2026 BOS 1st could be pretty good. Unlikely to be lotto, but high teens/early 20s? The ORL 26 swap hedges against getting a really late 1st with their existing swaps. Could also rehab/flip KCP at the deadline and see what you got with Jett.

I've seen versions where BOS takes Isaac back, but I'd rather clear the space for this particular version.

[djFan71]

My first version had ORL giving 16 for 28 to help offset some of the KCP cost. I think that may still make sense.

[orlando_joe]

do not see magic doing this with 100 mill owed to 35 yr old holiday ..to many cheaper ,younger,players with at least age and hope of some upside left to pick from then player on decline...just to much wear on those tires for that contract...kinda funny seeing comment to cover kcp cost need more like a just out of lottery pick added...then use holiday ..lol ..do not see it even without black and 2nds added

[Skybox]

My first version had ORL giving 16 for 28 to help offset some of the KCP cost. I think that may still make sense.

I think there needs to be little more consideration for offsetting the Jrue cost…KCP is a very viable player but means little to present-day BRK and Black is really promising. Both are likely better defenders than Jrue already.

ORL gets: Jrue
BOS gets: KCP, #19(from BRK)
BRK gets: Black, Hauser

*BOS saves about $20m before adding the #19 salary

…that would hurt but Hauser at $10m is tough for BOS, perhaps Scheiermann or #19 fills the Hauser role (or better) for 20% of the salary.
Black & Hauser are more sensible acquisitions for BRK…some ORL fans will jump in here and say that Black will better than Jrue as soon as next year…not me, but there’s a case to be made.

Jrue is miles ahead offensively but for how long and for how much. I’d pay slightly less for Jrue and slightly more for D White. I just don’t think Jrue’s demand will be very high given the contract and age…still a very good player but decent teams with young guys getting big extensions (like ORL) could find themselves in financial duress pretty quickly too. Jrue is an improvement, but maybe not a leap to contention, even with the East wide open…I think White would be a different story for ORL.

[R-DAWG]

I could see Orlando being a Porzingis destination. They desperately need shooting and his combination of shooting/rim protection is unique.

Orlando’s payroll is getting a little heavy, but Porzingis is only a 1 year deal. Orlando can trade Isaac/Anthony to make the cap math work and Boston can probably trade one of those guys into someone’s MLE or cap space.

[tiderulz]

Orlando would little interest in Jrue with his age, $$$ and production.

[brackdan70]

Orlando seems very close to contention. I know their timeline is around younger players, but adding a guy like Jrue seems like a good fit to me. There is his long contract that could be a problem for them in the future. I believe he is effective at least for a year or two and maybe more. He is in great shape.
I think the OP is close on value but feel like Orlando needs more compensation. I like the version from Skybox as well, but also Orlando still needs more I think.

[brackdan70]

My first version had ORL giving 16 for 28 to help offset some of the KCP cost. I think that may still make sense.

I think there needs to be little more consideration for offsetting the Jrue cost…KCP is a very viable player but means little to present-day BRK and Black is really promising. Both are likely better defenders than Jrue already.

ORL gets: Jrue
BOS gets: KCP, #19(from BRK)
BRK gets: Black, Hauser

*BOS saves about $20m before adding the #19 salary

…that would hurt but Hauser at $10m is tough for BOS, perhaps Scheiermann or #19 fills the Hauser role (or better) for 20% of the salary.
Black & Hauser are more sensible acquisitions for BRK…some ORL fans will jump in here and say that Black will better than Jrue as soon as next year…not me, but there’s a case to be made.

Jrue is miles ahead offensively but for how long and for how much. I’d pay slightly less for Jrue and slightly more for D White. I just don’t think Jrue’s demand will be very high given the contract and age…still a very good player but decent teams with young guys getting big extensions (like ORL) could find themselves in financial duress pretty quickly too. Jrue is an improvement, but maybe not a leap to contention, even with the East wide open…I think White would be a different story for ORL.

As an Orlando fan this works for you? I would think Orlando needs a second or two.
I think White has significantly more value, he is a top 30 guy and 30 years old on a team friendly contract. I would not think he is on the block unless the offer is really really strong.

[TheBrooklynKidd]

Suggs is better than Jrue at this point isn’t he?

I don’t see it for Orlando.

[Texas Chuck]

I don't see having both Suggs and Jrue on those contracts. Defense is already elite, but you still lack a contending level center but more importantly the offensive creator they are desperate for. Even if you could hammer out value this feels like it locks Orlando into a flawed roster.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

rather go after simons or sexton at this cost

[Skybox]

rather go after simons or sexton at this cost

yeah...I'd have to agree. Jrue really isn't the offensive upgrade, at this point, that is ORL's primary need - considering his age and deal...unless they're flat out stealing him from BOS-he's probably not the right target.

Prime Jrue...perfect - but that's Derrick White

[djFan71]

My first version had ORL giving 16 for 28 to help offset some of the KCP cost. I think that may still make sense.

I think there needs to be little more consideration for offsetting the Jrue cost…KCP is a very viable player but means little to present-day BRK and Black is really promising. Both are likely better defenders than Jrue already.

ORL gets: Jrue
BOS gets: KCP, #19(from BRK)
BRK gets: Black, Hauser

*BOS saves about $20m before adding the #19 salary

…that would hurt but Hauser at $10m is tough for BOS, perhaps Scheiermann or #19 fills the Hauser role (or better) for 20% of the salary.
Black & Hauser are more sensible acquisitions for BRK…some ORL fans will jump in here and say that Black will better than Jrue as soon as next year…not me, but there’s a case to be made.

Jrue is miles ahead offensively but for how long and for how much. I’d pay slightly less for Jrue and slightly more for D White. I just don’t think Jrue’s demand will be very high given the contract and age…still a very good player but decent teams with young guys getting big extensions (like ORL) could find themselves in financial duress pretty quickly too. Jrue is an improvement, but maybe not a leap to contention, even with the East wide open…I think White would be a different story for ORL.

Yeah, I obviously waffled on the 16/28 swap between BOS not paying enough vs paying too much with giving up the 26 1st. I used that one since it's more valuable than #28 this year - esp to BKN with all their picks right ahead of it.

I'd argue that Jrue is still better defensively than Black and KCP just from a versatility and experience standpoint. Both are very good, but Jrue is elite and ties the whole D together. BOS switches him 1-5 all the time and he orchestrates things. And he's not doing all he can on offense due to role, there's more there if needed. I think with a summer off (after finals/Olympics last year) and an expanded role he will show more offensively next season. Age/fit question is valid of course. I'd seen other ideas of Jrue to ORL so just kinda ran with that. It's the standard "add a vet to show the young team how to win" type move.

I don't do the counter, but I can see where it's close value wise. My goal isn't JUST dumping Jrue, it's getting a guy like Black to replace him and be cost-controlled for a few years while ducking the tax. (KP/Hauser out in a different trade in my scenario). #19 is nice, but KCP's 2nd year kills it for me.

If Jrue is just valued as a salary dump (which I think is wrong), BOS always still has the option of smaller tweaks for 25-26 and then decide in summer of 2026 how to avoid the 2nd apron. If they have to pay to dump Jrue then, he at least has 1 less year left.

[tiderulz]

Orlando seems very close to contention. I know their timeline is around younger players, but adding a guy like Jrue seems like a good fit to me. There is his long contract that could be a problem for them in the future. I believe he is effective at least for a year or two and maybe more. He is in great shape.
I think the OP is close on value but feel like Orlando needs more compensation. I like the version from Skybox as well, but also Orlando still needs more I think.

if this was 30 yr old Jrue, then yes. Not 35 yr old, much slower down Jrue at avg $34mil/yr over the next 3 years. add to the fact, he hasnt been able to play 70 games in 7 years.

Switch for Derrick White and Orlando is all over this. otherwise, it doesnt make sense for Orlando. We have the elder statesman already in KCP for much cheaper price

[orlando_joe]

My first version had ORL giving 16 for 28 to help offset some of the KCP cost. I think that may still make sense.

I think there needs to be little more consideration for offsetting the Jrue cost…KCP is a very viable player but means little to present-day BRK and Black is really promising. Both are likely better defenders than Jrue already.

ORL gets: Jrue
BOS gets: KCP, #19(from BRK)
BRK gets: Black, Hauser

*BOS saves about $20m before adding the #19 salary

…that would hurt but Hauser at $10m is tough for BOS, perhaps Scheiermann or #19 fills the Hauser role (or better) for 20% of the salary.
Black & Hauser are more sensible acquisitions for BRK…some ORL fans will jump in here and say that Black will better than Jrue as soon as next year…not me, but there’s a case to be made.

Jrue is miles ahead offensively but for how long and for how much. I’d pay slightly less for Jrue and slightly more for D White. I just don’t think Jrue’s demand will be very high given the contract and age…still a very good player but decent teams with young guys getting big extensions (like ORL) could find themselves in financial duress pretty quickly too. Jrue is an improvement, but maybe not a leap to contention, even with the East wide open…I think White would be a different story for ORL.

As an Orlando fan this works for you? I would think Orlando needs a second or two.
I think White has significantly more value, he is a top 30 guy and 30 years old on a team friendly contract. I would not think he is on the block unless the offer is really really strong.

sky always has magic giving a bit more then needed why? he really does not get the art of the deal

me i always have magic giving a bit less...lol

[brackdan70]

Orlando seems very close to contention. I know their timeline is around younger players, but adding a guy like Jrue seems like a good fit to me. There is his long contract that could be a problem for them in the future. I believe he is effective at least for a year or two and maybe more. He is in great shape.
I think the OP is close on value but feel like Orlando needs more compensation. I like the version from Skybox as well, but also Orlando still needs more I think.

if this was 30 yr old Jrue, then yes. Not 35 yr old, much slower down Jrue at avg $34mil/yr over the next 3 years. add to the fact, he hasnt been able to play 70 games in 7 years.

Switch for Derrick White and Orlando is all over this. otherwise, it doesnt make sense for Orlando. We have the elder statesman already in KCP for much cheaper price

I get the sentiment for sure on Jrue.
White is likely not available. He is a top 30 player on a team friendly contract. If he were available you’ll have to pony up a bunch of additional assets.

[tiderulz]

Orlando seems very close to contention. I know their timeline is around younger players, but adding a guy like Jrue seems like a good fit to me. There is his long contract that could be a problem for them in the future. I believe he is effective at least for a year or two and maybe more. He is in great shape.
I think the OP is close on value but feel like Orlando needs more compensation. I like the version from Skybox as well, but also Orlando still needs more I think.

if this was 30 yr old Jrue, then yes. Not 35 yr old, much slower down Jrue at avg $34mil/yr over the next 3 years. add to the fact, he hasnt been able to play 70 games in 7 years.

Switch for Derrick White and Orlando is all over this. otherwise, it doesnt make sense for Orlando. We have the elder statesman already in KCP for much cheaper price

I get the sentiment for sure on Jrue.
White is likely not available. He is a top 30 player on a team friendly contract. If he were available you’ll have to pony up a bunch of additional assets.

White used to be on very team friendly deal. now, he is on just a good deal (averaging about $31mil over next 4 years), and not sure he is top-30, more top-45. i agree he would likely cost more. Boston is over the barrel a little. Next year without Tatum, and at $223mil, they are going to have to cut costs. Will be interesting to see what Brad Stevens does

[Ducklett]

I am fine with Orlando skipping on Jrue. If he was a bit younger or the contract wasn't so bad, I would jump on this deal.