Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap -- 1st page updated on July 1st

[daoneandonly]

Does Jordan Poole appeal to any of you guys?

Wouldn't fit "defense wins championship" culture probably. Plus he's boneheaded like THJ or even worse.

Yea that guy is a clown, chucker, and does not add anything this team needs.

[arkuo]

The Bulls makes the most sense as a trading partner now. Next would be Boston then Utah. Everybody else seems to be competing and would most likely not give away assets to help another team.

The upside in trading with Utah is Danny Ainge would choose a painful death before sending Gafford to help LA.

[arkuo]

I wonder if PJ and Gaff can be talked into both taking paycuts so the team can be kept intact. It's not the first time this happened.

[arkuo]

Here's an idea.

Mccollum and Herb Jones

for

Gaff, Klay, Martin, and Hardy


Mccollum is an expiring signed on for just one more year. You get him to run the guard position while Kyrie is out but you don't re-sign him. That's a $32M expiring contract that will serve it's purpose while Kyrie is out. The prize for that is Herb Jones. You are salary dumping Gaff and Klay anyway to avoid the second apron with Flagg coming in. Just fill out the bench with low cost options after.

[joesha1698]

Here's an idea.

Mccollum and Herb Jones

for

Gaff, Klay, Martin, and Hardy


Mccollum is an expiring signed on for just one more year. You get him to run the guard position while Kyrie is out but you don't re-sign him. That's a $32M expiring contract that will serve it's purpose while Kyrie is out. The prize for that is Herb Jones. You are salary dumping Gaff and Klay anyway to avoid the second apron with Flagg coming in. Just fill out the bench with low cost options after.

I proposed a similar deal as well. But I wouldn't include Klay. That shooting and leadership you gotta keep, imo. Note: The real reason I do not want to trade Klay is his leadership and I just think it sends the wrong message to trade a guy after a big signing. It will be Scottie Pippen to Houston than to Portland all over again.

[joesha1698]

PJ is obviousely better than Gafford, I'd argue he should be kept over AD, Flagg, PJ, Lively should be the frontcourt for the next 5 years, and backups behind them.

I'm not sold on PJ being better than Gaff. I would argue that Gaff does what he does consistently better than what PJ does. My issue with PJ is his inconsistency. If he would just play smarter and show up - being a big athletic wing - I could see him being better than Gafford. However, he's streaky from 3 and struggles to finish at the basket often. He also needs to improving his ball handling and decision making. I just do not think we need 2 big men in today's NBA...just a serviceable big man behind Lively should do, especially when you have AD that can play the C at times. PJ is worth keeping as a big athletic wing but it may require for him to take less and be willing to accept a lesser role going forward. Because of that, I wouldn't be surprised if he's traded this off-season. If we end up keeping him (and he has an amazing year) I definitely wouldn't complain.

[Mavrelous]

Here's an idea.

Mccollum and Herb Jones

for

Gaff, Klay, Martin, and Hardy


Mccollum is an expiring signed on for just one more year. You get him to run the guard position while Kyrie is out but you don't re-sign him. That's a $32M expiring contract that will serve it's purpose while Kyrie is out. The prize for that is Herb Jones. You are salary dumping Gaff and Klay anyway to avoid the second apron with Flagg coming in. Just fill out the bench with low cost options after.

You need to send LAL 29 and Mavs 31, but I like it.

[joesha1698]

The 1st apron issue would be less of an issue if Nico never did that darn Martin for Grimes swap. Heck we'd even have the 35th pick in the draft. Good chance now we trade a key player (like Gaff or PJ) just to get under since Martin is negative value and no one would want him.

Yes, I'm still salty about that trade

Grimes trade was absolute disaster because Martin simply doesn't fit and looks totally washed. On top of that, he has a multi year contract lol... Would have been better if he just let Grimes walk for nothing and that would be -9M off the salary cap already. But on the other hand, his agent demanded a trade so Nico probably took the 1st dumbest offer he could find.

Give some more time to Martin, I believe he is better than what is shown.

I like Martin but I think we're gonna have too many guards. Christie/Klay/Kyrie plays some 2 as well...I think we should use him to get better if there is another more needed position.

[Michaellam1987]

Grimes trade was absolute disaster because Martin simply doesn't fit and looks totally washed. On top of that, he has a multi year contract lol... Would have been better if he just let Grimes walk for nothing and that would be -9M off the salary cap already. But on the other hand, his agent demanded a trade so Nico probably took the 1st dumbest offer he could find.

Give some more time to Martin, I believe he is better than what is shown.

I like Martin but I think we're gonna have too many guards. Christie/Klay/Kyrie plays some 2 as well...I think we should use him to get better if there is another more needed position.

but the problem is that his value is at time low right now, imagine how big is the gap between his trade value after the stella performance in playoff, and then sign a very unrealistic low amount deal with PHI for 10M per year, compared to now

[Michaellam1987]

Here's an idea.

Mccollum and Herb Jones

for

Gaff, Klay, Martin, and Hardy


Mccollum is an expiring signed on for just one more year. You get him to run the guard position while Kyrie is out but you don't re-sign him. That's a $32M expiring contract that will serve it's purpose while Kyrie is out. The prize for that is Herb Jones. You are salary dumping Gaff and Klay anyway to avoid the second apron with Flagg coming in. Just fill out the bench with low cost options after.

why NOP will do this deal?

[arkuo]

Here's an idea.

Mccollum and Herb Jones

for

Gaff, Klay, Martin, and Hardy


Mccollum is an expiring signed on for just one more year. You get him to run the guard position while Kyrie is out but you don't re-sign him. That's a $32M expiring contract that will serve it's purpose while Kyrie is out. The prize for that is Herb Jones. You are salary dumping Gaff and Klay anyway to avoid the second apron with Flagg coming in. Just fill out the bench with low cost options after.

why NOP will do this deal?

There were times in the season where they had Trey Murphy play center. That is a 6'8 dude. All because they traded away Valanciunas. Now they get a 26 year old starting center to replace that long term. Value is subjective. You're talking to a team with no starting centers and have no ability to attract free agents. New Orleans might bite. If Dallas adds picks it might be a go.

[Mavrelous]

PJ is obviousely better than Gafford, I'd argue he should be kept over AD, Flagg, PJ, Lively should be the frontcourt for the next 5 years, and backups behind them.

I'm not sold on PJ being better than Gaff. I would argue that Gaff does what he does consistently better than what PJ does. My issue with PJ is his inconsistency. If he would just play smarter and show up - being a big athletic wing - I could see him being better than Gafford. However, he's streaky from 3 and struggles to finish at the basket often. He also needs to improving his ball handling and decision making. I just do not think we need 2 big men in today's NBA...just a serviceable big man behind Lively should do, especially when you have AD that can play the C at times. PJ is worth keeping as a big athletic wing but it may require for him to take less and be willing to accept a lesser role going forward. Because of that, I wouldn't be surprised if he's traded this off-season. If we end up keeping him (and he has an amazing year) I definitely wouldn't complain.

PJ just can't be primary scorer, and is incossistent shooter, put him next to a star and he'll give you most of what you need..
Gafford is a nice RS 25 MPG player, bad PO player.

[Michaellam1987]

Here's an idea.

Mccollum and Herb Jones

for

Gaff, Klay, Martin, and Hardy


Mccollum is an expiring signed on for just one more year. You get him to run the guard position while Kyrie is out but you don't re-sign him. That's a $32M expiring contract that will serve it's purpose while Kyrie is out. The prize for that is Herb Jones. You are salary dumping Gaff and Klay anyway to avoid the second apron with Flagg coming in. Just fill out the bench with low cost options after.

why NOP will do this deal?

There were times in the season where they had Trey Murphy play center. That is a 6'8 dude. All because they traded away Valanciunas. Now they get a 26 year old starting center to replace that long term. Value is subjective. You're talking to a team with no starting centers and have no ability to attract free agents. New Orleans might bite. If Dallas adds picks it might be a go.

I remember NOP has drafted a young C, and they can also go to talk with team with surplus of C, such as POR or ORL, I am quite sure they don’t have to give up 2 starters, especially defensive ace in Jones, while taking on 2 contracts that they don’t need in Martin and Hardy.

[daoneandonly]

Keepers:
Cooper Flagg
Derrick Lively
Kyrie Irving - with his injury, won't be any kind of market
PJ Washington - not untouchable, but provides so much for this team
Max Christie - decent and young enough to warrant trying to grow
Naji Marshall - gritty guy every team would like to have. only should eb traded for obvious win

Be Gone Please
Anthony Davis
Klay Thompson
Caleb Martin

Too irrelevant either way
Jaden Hardy
Dwight Powell

[Mr B]

It wouldnt surprise me if Vincent is the main return in a Gafford to LA deal.

Vincent/Hayes/2031 for Gafford would not surprise me one bit. I'll be shocked if Gafford isnt a Laker at the beginning of next season and we'll somehow get screwed again.

I would take that actually - that pick would likely be heavily protected though (lottery/top10). Still, decent value.

High likelihood Mavs don't trade with the Lakers this soon. However, if it's on the table, Vincent + Knecht + 2031 1st looks okay for Gaff.

I’m really sensing a 3-team trade. Chicago would be a perfect team to trade with (as well as Lakers).

Lakers get Gafford

Chicago gets FRP from Lakers (and expiring salaries to match)

Dallas gets Coby White

[Archx]

PJ is obviousely better than Gafford, I'd argue he should be kept over AD, Flagg, PJ, Lively should be the frontcourt for the next 5 years, and backups behind them.

I'm not sold on PJ being better than Gaff. I would argue that Gaff does what he does consistently better than what PJ does. My issue with PJ is his inconsistency. If he would just play smarter and show up - being a big athletic wing - I could see him being better than Gafford. However, he's streaky from 3 and struggles to finish at the basket often. He also needs to improving his ball handling and decision making. I just do not think we need 2 big men in today's NBA...just a serviceable big man behind Lively should do, especially when you have AD that can play the C at times. PJ is worth keeping as a big athletic wing but it may require for him to take less and be willing to accept a lesser role going forward. Because of that, I wouldn't be surprised if he's traded this off-season. If we end up keeping him (and he has an amazing year) I definitely wouldn't complain.

Not long ago you were saying that Luka is holding PJ back and Kidd could turn PJ into a Lebron type of player.. We told you that's impossible since PJ needs someone like Doncic. What changed your mind? Now you think he's even worse than Gafford lol?

Also, PJ is 100x more valuable to this team than Gafford, it's not even debatable. Lakers are insanely desperate for a center, they'll overpay if they can get a decent one. There is your best bet for a trade. Even though Lakers could target Claxton as well.

Keepers:
Cooper Flagg
Derrick Lively
Kyrie Irving - with his injury, won't be any kind of market
PJ Washington - not untouchable, but provides so much for this team
Max Christie - decent and young enough to warrant trying to grow
Naji Marshall - gritty guy every team would like to have. only should eb traded for obvious win

Be Gone Please
Anthony Davis
Klay Thompson
Caleb Martin

Too irrelevant either way
Jaden Hardy
Dwight Powell

Agreed. Though if someone wants Kyrie and Mavs want a full reset, he could be gone as well. But core of Flagg/Lively/Christie/PJ would a nice restart for this franchise.

But at the end just shows what kind of idiot Nico is. Mavs would have a core of Luka/PJ/Gafford/Lively, maybe even include Grimes.. FOR YEARS to come. That would be insanely good team on its own.

[Teffer10]

I wonder if PJ and Gaff can be talked into both taking paycuts so the team can be kept intact. It's not the first time this happened.

I understand all of the love for PJ and Gaff, but I have a hard time believing both will take paycuts to come off the bench during their prime years. There is almost no scenario that I can see where both, or maybe either will re-sign with us based on what they will want, not what we want.

I still think the best approach might be to do very little or nothing this offseason and then make deals around TDL to address the current situation. This whole thing is riding on Kyrie imo, and the current construction of our team without him is certainly good enough to beat the majority of teams during reg season. If he comes back to near normal then make deals based on that situation. But either way, I think we'll have to part from both of them before next offseason one way or another.

[Teffer10]

PJ is obviousely better than Gafford, I'd argue he should be kept over AD, Flagg, PJ, Lively should be the frontcourt for the next 5 years, and backups behind them.

I'm not sold on PJ being better than Gaff. I would argue that Gaff does what he does consistently better than what PJ does. My issue with PJ is his inconsistency. If he would just play smarter and show up - being a big athletic wing - I could see him being better than Gafford. However, he's streaky from 3 and struggles to finish at the basket often. He also needs to improving his ball handling and decision making. I just do not think we need 2 big men in today's NBA...just a serviceable big man behind Lively should do, especially when you have AD that can play the C at times. PJ is worth keeping as a big athletic wing but it may require for him to take less and be willing to accept a lesser role going forward. Because of that, I wouldn't be surprised if he's traded this off-season. If we end up keeping him (and he has an amazing year) I definitely wouldn't complain.

Not long ago you were saying that Luka is holding PJ back and Kidd could turn PJ into a Lebron type of player.. We told you that's impossible since PJ needs someone like Doncic. What changed your mind? Now you think he's even worse than Gafford lol?

Also, PJ is 100x more valuable to this team than Gafford, it's not even debatable. Lakers are insanely desperate for a center, they'll overpay if they can get a decent one. There is your best bet for a trade. Even though Lakers could target Claxton as well.

Keepers:
Cooper Flagg
Derrick Lively
Kyrie Irving - with his injury, won't be any kind of market
PJ Washington - not untouchable, but provides so much for this team
Max Christie - decent and young enough to warrant trying to grow
Naji Marshall - gritty guy every team would like to have. only should eb traded for obvious win

Be Gone Please
Anthony Davis
Klay Thompson
Caleb Martin

Too irrelevant either way
Jaden Hardy
Dwight Powell

Agreed. Though if someone wants Kyrie and Mavs want a full reset, he could be gone as well. But core of Flagg/Lively/Christie/PJ would a nice restart for this franchise.

But at the end just shows what kind of idiot Nico is. Mavs would have a core of Luka/PJ/Gafford/Lively, maybe even include Grimes.. FOR YEARS to come. That would be insanely good team on its own.

And even if he was hell bent on trading Luka to Lakers, Flagg/Lively/Christie/PJ/Reaves/Knecht/LA29/LA31 would have been one hell of a bright future for this team while being a legit contender next season.

Yeah, either way, Nico was an idiot.

[daoneandonly]

Pipedream trade for the Mavs. Won't happen, but fun to think about

Lakers get: Daniel Gafford, Jaden Hardy
Magic get: Austin Reaves, Klay Thompson
Dallas gets: Jalen Suggs, Shake Milton

Then use Caleb Martin to get a backup center. Two mistakes (Klay and Hardy) gone, and get a guy that can run the Point while Kyrie is out, and fit like a glove with him when he returns

[Maverick41]

Pipedream trade for the Mavs. Won't happen, but fun to think about

Lakers get: Daniel Gafford, Jaden Hardy
Magic get: Austin Reaves, Klay Thompson
Dallas gets: Jalen Suggs, Shake Milton

Then use Caleb Martin to get a backup center. Two mistakes (Klay and Hardy) gone, and get a guy that can run the Point while Kyrie is out, and fit like a glove with him when he returns

Sign me up. I'd even send the Lakers pick back if needed. Maybe the Magic needs to send a pick to Lakers too.