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2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft

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Who do you want us to take at #3?

Ace Bailey
34
45%
V.J. Edgecombe
20
27%
Kon Knueppel
3
4%
Khaman Maluach
1
1%
Tre Johnson
14
19%
Derik Queen
3
4%
 
Total votes: 75

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Post#1761 » by mjkvol » Fri May 16, 2025 10:10 pm

Iverson Armband wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
Mik317 wrote:trading down is probably the smart move

but **** the smart move lol.

It will be a sign that they still expect they can truly compete next year imo.

I think Tari Eason is neat but trading all the way down to 10, potentially missing out on guys bu-but it makes the team better short term is just not what I want to be hearing right now....even if it is probably the "correct" move.

Be a man; take a guy at 3 and move like he is going to be that dude...lol I'd be fired so fast lol


To be fair, Tatum tearing his achilles has sent shockwaves throughout the East and we have as good a chance of making the Finals (if we stay healthy) as any of these other teams. Also there's the part that Morey and Nurse want to remain employed with the Sixers.

Embiid and PG as your best players cannot be relied upon to make any type of Finals run. I don’t care who is injured in the East.


This x 1000.

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Post#1762 » by mjkvol » Fri May 16, 2025 10:12 pm

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We wouldn’t dare call PG a liar would we lol.


If I wasn't out on Ace before ......
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Post#1763 » by mjkvol » Fri May 16, 2025 10:20 pm

There is a month and a half until the draft and this thread is insane. If this doesn't scream "we are SO f***king back!!", I don't know what other evidence is needed.
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Post#1764 » by Covi_Marsh » Fri May 16, 2025 10:21 pm

sodmoraes wrote:I really like Tre, and think he can be an allstar too, if his driving game and his defense improves. But i´m favoring Bailey because i think a SF is more important than a SG, and Ace can be a pretty good defender, since he has all the tools and, in some ways, he´s already advanced:

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Post#1765 » by Arsenal » Fri May 16, 2025 10:29 pm

sodmoraes wrote:I really like Tre, and think he can be an allstar too, if his driving game and his defense improves. But i´m favoring Bailey because i think a SF is more important than a SG, and Ace can be a pretty good defender, since he has all the tools and, in some ways, he´s already advanced:

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Post#1766 » by zaz102 » Fri May 16, 2025 10:32 pm

mjkvol wrote:
Iverson Armband wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
To be fair, Tatum tearing his achilles has sent shockwaves throughout the East and we have as good a chance of making the Finals (if we stay healthy) as any of these other teams. Also there's the part that Morey and Nurse want to remain employed with the Sixers.

Embiid and PG as your best players cannot be relied upon to make any type of Finals run. I don’t care who is injured in the East.


This x 1000.

Any plan that revolves around Embiid and George should be immediately dismissed at this point. If by some miracle I'm proven wrong with that statement I'll gladly eat crow, but just like an addict, until the Sixers finally admit that it's over, the disappointment and failure will continue.
Agreed. If I could believe they could be healthy, that would be a different story. What's nice is that even with the injuries, they are an OK spot.

Maxey/Grimes/McCain backcourt.
Edwards and Bona as rotation players.
#3 pick.

If Embiid can't get back, I feel there's a good chance they can rehab PG's value to flip him for assets at the deadline. If Embiid, can't play, he can retire and you're off of him after a year from his last game (worst case scenario IMO).

Hopefully they can develop #3 to be an all-star level player. If it's a guard, you eventually look to flip one of backcourt players.

Then you can use the remaining assets in a future trade most likely.

Morey set themselves up to transition pretty easily if needed. Of course, the hard and most important part is finding that next top 10 player they would need to truly compete.
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Post#1767 » by eyeatoma » Fri May 16, 2025 10:33 pm

Covi_Marsh wrote:
sodmoraes wrote:I really like Tre, and think he can be an allstar too, if his driving game and his defense improves. But i´m favoring Bailey because i think a SF is more important than a SG, and Ace can be a pretty good defender, since he has all the tools and, in some ways, he´s already advanced:

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Yeah I'm not sure why he's criticised as someone without a handle. Those drives look fine to me. He also went left plenty.
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Post#1768 » by Negrodamus » Fri May 16, 2025 10:44 pm

mjkvol wrote:
Iverson Armband wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
To be fair, Tatum tearing his achilles has sent shockwaves throughout the East and we have as good a chance of making the Finals (if we stay healthy) as any of these other teams. Also there's the part that Morey and Nurse want to remain employed with the Sixers.

Embiid and PG as your best players cannot be relied upon to make any type of Finals run. I don’t care who is injured in the East.


This x 1000.

Any plan that revolves around Embiid and George should be immediately dismissed at this point. If by some miracle I'm proven wrong with that statement I'll gladly eat crow, but just like an addict, until the Sixers finally admit that it's over, the disappointment and failure will continue.


Yea but unless there is private information about Embiid’s knew, Morey and ownership are riding with Embiid until the wheels fall off despite what I, you, or anyone else on this board thinks about their playoff capabilities. So that’s the standpoint from where my comment came from.
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Post#1769 » by sodmoraes » Fri May 16, 2025 11:09 pm

I only saw a few EdgeCombe highlights, so i cant fully measure his athletic abilities, but his agility numbers in the Combine werent all that great:

JMAC3 wrote:Ace Ranks (out of 68 tested)
Lane Agility Drill - 20th
Shuttle - 6th
3/4 Sprint - 12th

Tre Ranks
Lane Agility Drill - 1st
Shuttle - 56th
3/4 Sprint - 49th

VJ Ranks
Lane Agility Drill - 41st
Shuttle - 20th
3/4 Sprint - 28th


His vert was pretty good, but i dont know about the rest. I will watch some videos of him today, to check how his first step is. If it isnt an outlier, it limits his potential a bit.
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Post#1770 » by Negrodamus » Fri May 16, 2025 11:26 pm

I don’t remember where I saw it but somebody put together a list of how unimportant the vert/agility testing is when determining a players future. I wouldn’t get too hung up on those numbers.
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Post#1771 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Fri May 16, 2025 11:44 pm

Bailey is a cool kid regardless of how you feel about his game. That quote was legendary.
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Post#1772 » by Negrodamus » Sat May 17, 2025 12:02 am

I want Miles Byrd badly from this draft. I think there’s untapped shooting potential and secondary ball handling duties. His defense is nearly Thybulle level. Will be a super role player at some point in this league.
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Post#1773 » by the_process » Sat May 17, 2025 12:05 am

Negrodamus wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
Iverson Armband wrote:Embiid and PG as your best players cannot be relied upon to make any type of Finals run. I don’t care who is injured in the East.


This x 1000.

Any plan that revolves around Embiid and George should be immediately dismissed at this point. If by some miracle I'm proven wrong with that statement I'll gladly eat crow, but just like an addict, until the Sixers finally admit that it's over, the disappointment and failure will continue.


Yea but unless there is private information about Embiid’s knew, Morey and ownership are riding with Embiid until the wheels fall off for this year, despite what I, you, or anyone else on this board thinks about their playoff capabilities. So that’s the standpoint from where my comment came from.


I think that’s more accurate. If he misses most of the year again, these guys are smart enough to cut bait.
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Post#1774 » by MVP1992 » Sat May 17, 2025 12:09 am

I have #3 pick fatigue.

Anyone narrowed down targets for the 35th pick?

Any chance we could package the 35th and future owed 2nd picks to move up a bit in the draft?

Cedric Coward 6’6”, WS 7’0” (+6) 15.2 PPG 39% 3PT
Mock board range 22–54 (most 35–42)
Elite 3-and-D wing, Morey archetype
Chance Morey targets him: High
He's performing well in the combine.


Yaxel Lendeborg 6’9” / 7’4” (+7) 15-10-4-1.5-1.5
Mock board range 22–35 (most 27–31)
Versatile PF, shooting concern
Chance at 35: Low (likely gone by 35th)


Alex Toohey 6’7” / 6’11” (+4) 14.0 PPG, 36% 3PT
Mock board range 33–43 (most 36–40)
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Post#1775 » by Arsenal » Sat May 17, 2025 12:16 am

MVP1992 wrote:I have #3 pick fatigue.

Anyone narrowed down targets for the 35th pick?

Any chance we could package the 35th and future owed 2nd picks to move up a bit in the draft?

Cedric Coward 6’6”, WS 7’0” (+6) 15.2 PPG 39% 3PT
Mock board range 22–54 (most 35–42)
Elite 3-and-D wing, Morey archetype
Chance Morey targets him: High
He's performing well in the combine.


Yaxel Lendeborg 6’9” / 7’4” (+7) 15-10-4-1.5-1.5
Mock board range 22–35 (most 27–31)
Versatile PF, shooting concern
Chance at 35: Low (likely gone by 35th)


Alex Toohey 6’7” / 6’11” (+4) 14.0 PPG, 36% 3PT
Mock board range 33–43 (most 36–40)


Coward and Lendeborg will be long gone unfortunately. Both have top-20 buzz.

I'm hoping for Miles Byrd, Maxime Raynaud, Bobljub Markovic, or Darrion Williams.
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Post#1776 » by Kobblehead » Sat May 17, 2025 12:17 am

Negrodamus wrote:I want Miles Byrd badly from this draft. I think there’s untapped shooting potential and secondary ball handling duties. His defense is nearly Thybulle level. Will be a super role player at some point in this league.

Yup. The 6'10" wingspan was nice, too.
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Post#1777 » by Kobblehead » Sat May 17, 2025 12:18 am

Jamir Watkins as an UDFA is a must get.
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Post#1778 » by Iverson Armband » Sat May 17, 2025 12:40 am

eyeatoma wrote:
Covi_Marsh wrote:
sodmoraes wrote:I really like Tre, and think he can be an allstar too, if his driving game and his defense improves. But i´m favoring Bailey because i think a SF is more important than a SG, and Ace can be a pretty good defender, since he has all the tools and, in some ways, he´s already advanced:

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Yeah I'm not sure why he's criticised as someone without a handle. Those drives look fine to me. He also went left plenty.

He dribbles better than Flagg IMO
always a jump shot away.
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Post#1779 » by Negrodamus » Sat May 17, 2025 12:47 am

Trading back with Washington for their #6 and #18.

6- Queen
18- Byrd (I think he’s moved into the top 20)

Gives us a hedge for Embiid plus depth who will complement our shooters well. Kind of a poor man’s Denver when he’s running the offense. Also will be one of the only people on this team that goes after rebounds.

Also Byrd provides us insane defense. Will be a day one contributor as defensive guard off the bench. Gives flexibility to move on from Oubre.
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Post#1780 » by Arsenal » Sat May 17, 2025 1:08 am

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Man, if we do a trade like this with the nets i would be mad. Just doesnt make sense to still bet on Embiid´s health. Even if by a miracle he´s injury free next season, and close to his MVP form, his game doesnt work in the playoffs, its already proved. Spend a top pick in a swap with the nets, for friking Cam Johnson and picks outside the lotery seems like a dumb move...


Thankfully, Daryl Morey isn't a braindead moron so he won't be making this trade. The reporter is just talking out of his ass. People on this board know way more about basketball and trade value than he does.

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