Official NBA General Discussion 2024-25 V2.0

[mdenny]

Chet and Jdubs are obviously both gonna get max extensions. The question is....can a team win with 2 of those kind of guys? Where they make a max but are amongst the lower level of max players?

They're gonna have to lose so many crucial players to accommodate those two salaries.

Yep, that's why their window was short, this season and next season. Once they have to pay Chet & J-Dub, and lose Dort and IH in the process, it all starts to fall apart.

First you trade Isaiah Joe, then lose Kenrich Williams and Ousmane Dieng. Next would be Dort and Wiggins. Caruso makes too much. Maybe a team trades for him.

PG SGA - Topic
SG CasonWallace -
SF JalenW
PF Chet -
C Hartenstein - JaylinW

Add two 1st picks to fill the bench.

That's a decent summation of what's to come I'm the absence of a consolidation trade and it looks pretty grim.

That's why some of us are saying they only have one more year.

After next season they can expect to lose 5 rotation players from this current team. So they go from an elite team to a good team. I totally get that ppl are saying "you can fill out the roster with draft picks" but history doesn't show this to be a viable option. Teams win by filling out the roster with veteran role players. ...not with late first round picks.

Losing dort and Caruso is gonna hurt in particular. They would have to get EXTREMELY lucky to pick guys in the late first round that can fill those roles satisfactorily during playoff basketball.

They are clearly so much better off consolidating imo. Giannis is right there for the taking. And contrary to popular opinion....I would trade both chet AND jdub for him. They are far better off having two role guys (ie dort/caruso) to supplement the sga/giannis duo than they are handcuffing themselves with two supermax contracts and a third max rookie extension.

If you spend 110 milly on sga/giannis and spend the rest of the cap on role players and depth. Adding another max contract to that dynamic duo just handcuffs you in building the rest of the team. Add IH to the list of guys you lose if they retain one of williams/chet.

I've watched almost every playoff game they played this season. Dort and Caruso are crucial pieces. Jdub and chet are good too.....but they simply do not represent efficient cap use at max extensions.

[PushDaRock]

Chet and Jdubs are obviously both gonna get max extensions. The question is....can a team win with 2 of those kind of guys? Where they make a max but are amongst the lower level of max players?

They're gonna have to lose so many crucial players to accommodate those two salaries.

That's why I would have went for it last trade deadline, get another star with their war chest of picks and get 3 cracks at a championship while you have JDub and Chet under rookie deals.

[AbC?]

The cap crunch problem is not specific to OKC, it's a reality for every single team. Denver lost KCP/Brown, had to make do with cheaper options and basically roll a 7 man roster. Boston will see big changes this summer, Jrue/Porzingis are probably gone. Sengun and Green's extensions will soon kick in for Houston. Mobley is about to get a supermax and Cleveland will need to make cuts at some point. The new CBA makes it basically impossible to keep a roster intact beyond a 3 or 4 core guys. Hell even the Raptors are right up against the luxury tax and we are what, a fringe playoff team? Lol.

OKC definitely has some difficult decisions to make, esp if they blow it this year. The difference is they do have their massive asset base to flesh out the back end of their roster and to use in trades. And they've already locked in a couple role players for cheap, cost-controlled years in Wiggins/Joe which is huge. They've managed it quite well so far and that should continue going forward.

[WaltFrazier]

Clear forearm shiver by Brown, but not F1. Ridiculous

[Pointgod]

Jaylen Brown is immensely talented and is literally the best player in his draft, but watching his handles is a cautionary tale of drafting a guy who can’t dribble with our lottery pick.

[Son Goku 25]

Knicks look like they gonna win the ship this year it's crazy

[Brinbe]

celtics window is over just like that.

nyc gonna be on a high for good while till game 1 next wednesday.

gonna be lots of time to replay the classics

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[Spates]

Two-way guards are central features of the best eastern conference teams. The teams without have been eliminated.

[Brinbe]

silver did all that work getting luka to la just to be potentially stuck with a okc-indiana final

[WuTang_CMB]

I hope knicks lose
Gonna be a long series

[WaltFrazier]

Two-way guards are central features of the best eastern conference teams. The teams without have been eliminated.

White and Jrue aren't two way guards?

[WaltFrazier]

Knicks look like they gonna win the ship this year it's crazy

Too early to say, Indy will be tough.

But if Knicks did meet Wolves in the Finals, has there ever been a scenario like that after a major trade? It would be the ultimate win - win trade.

[WaltFrazier]

silver did all that work getting luka to la just to be potentially stuck with a okc-indiana final

He must have done his end of the bargain, #1 to Dallas, grudgingly. But, a deal's a deal

[Brinbe]

silver did all that work getting luka to la just to be potentially stuck with a okc-indiana final

He must have done his end of the bargain, #1 to Dallas, grudgingly. But, a deal's a deal

if stern was around we know the knicks would for sure be getting that lakers vs kings whistle next round. but we'll see if adam has that sort of juice

[WaltFrazier]

silver did all that work getting luka to la just to be potentially stuck with a okc-indiana final

He must have done his end of the bargain, #1 to Dallas, grudgingly. But, a deal's a deal

if stern was around we know the knicks would for sure be getting that lakers vs kings whistle next round. but we'll see if adam has that sort of juice

Following them all year I feel they get a bad whistle, not what you expect for the biggest market. KAT especially. Might be Dolan hate not sure. Or maybe it's me lol.

But yeah you'd think now with Boston out, NY should be the market Silver and ABC/ESPN wants in the Finals

[Los_29]

Knicks look like they gonna win the ship this year it's crazy

Too early to say, Indy will be tough.

But if Knicks did meet Wolves in the Finals, has there ever been a scenario like that after a major trade? It would be the ultimate win - win trade.

What a storyline that’d be.

Indy/NYK will be a very fun series. I’m leaning towards the Knicks there.

Pacers and Knicks are two teams that don’t have your prototypical superstar but they built good, well balanced teams and are now in the ECF.

Tatum injury can’t be used as an excuse. Knicks were well on their way to going up 3-1 in that series before the injury. They did what they needed to do. Boston has always been a team that played with its food and it backfired against Miami two years ago and again this year against the Knicks. Knicks deserve this.

Neither team tanked and their best players with the exception of Towns were drafted outside of the top 10.

If we have learned anything from these playoffs, it’s that you need to build a well balanced roster. Two superstars with no pieces around them doesn’t work anymore.

[UnderdogRaptors]

Celtics are pure trash they just lost to the worst team and franchise in history

[UnderdogRaptors]

Knicks look like they gonna win the ship this year it's crazy

Too early to say, Indy will be tough.

But if Knicks did meet Wolves in the Finals, has there ever been a scenario like that after a major trade? It would be the ultimate win - win trade.

What a storyline that’d be.

Indy/NYK will be a very fun series. I’m leaning towards the Knicks there.

Pacers and Knicks are two teams that don’t have your prototypical superstar but they built good, well balanced teams and are now in the ECF.

Tatum injury can’t be used as an excuse. Knicks were well on their way to going up 3-1 in that series before the injury. They did what they needed to do. Boston has always been a team that played with its food and it backfired against Miami two years ago and again this year against the Knicks. Knicks deserve this.

Neither team tanked and their best players with the exception of Towns were drafted outside of the top 10.

If we have learned anything from these playoffs, it’s that you need to build a well balanced roster. Two superstars with no pieces around them doesn’t work anymore.

The wc team will stomp on both those trash teams east is so bad

[WaltFrazier]

Knicks look like they gonna win the ship this year it's crazy

Too early to say, Indy will be tough.

But if Knicks did meet Wolves in the Finals, has there ever been a scenario like that after a major trade? It would be the ultimate win - win trade.

What a storyline that’d be.

Indy/NYK will be a very fun series. I’m leaning towards the Knicks there.

Pacers and Knicks are two teams that don’t have your prototypical superstar but they built good, well balanced teams and are now in the ECF.

Tatum injury can’t be used as an excuse. Knicks were well on their way to going up 3-1 in that series before the injury. They did what they needed to do. Boston has always been a team that played with its food and it backfired against Miami two years ago and again this year against the Knicks. Knicks deserve this.

Neither team tanked and their best players with the exception of Towns were drafted outside of the top 10.

If we have learned anything from these playoffs, it’s that you need to build a well balanced roster. Two superstars with no pieces around them doesn’t work anymore.

Yeah the third win in game 4 was sealed on the very play Tatum got hurt, OG's steal and dunk.

Indy series should be very good. I agree Knicks should have an edge, if both teams stay healthy. Last year Randle and Robinson were out, OG went down in game 3. I think Knicks match up better than Cavs did, with OG on Pascal, Bridges on Hali, Towns vs Turner. Pacers offense is relentless though, won't be easy.

[Los_29]

Too early to say, Indy will be tough.

But if Knicks did meet Wolves in the Finals, has there ever been a scenario like that after a major trade? It would be the ultimate win - win trade.

What a storyline that’d be.

Indy/NYK will be a very fun series. I’m leaning towards the Knicks there.

Pacers and Knicks are two teams that don’t have your prototypical superstar but they built good, well balanced teams and are now in the ECF.

Tatum injury can’t be used as an excuse. Knicks were well on their way to going up 3-1 in that series before the injury. They did what they needed to do. Boston has always been a team that played with its food and it backfired against Miami two years ago and again this year against the Knicks. Knicks deserve this.

Neither team tanked and their best players with the exception of Towns were drafted outside of the top 10.

If we have learned anything from these playoffs, it’s that you need to build a well balanced roster. Two superstars with no pieces around them doesn’t work anymore.

The wc team will stomp on both those trash teams east is so bad

Celtics stomped on the best from the West last year and now they are heading to Cancun.

Pacers and Knicks are great teams.