Fake Trade Thread #7

[Diop]

Kuminga reminds me of Miles without the passing. im not excited for him at all

[Liver_Pooty]

I must be the only one that don’t want Miles to go anywhere. We have plenty of draft capital to get a solid player without trading the only dude that will play through pain on our roster.

actually change that to mostly. i also dont like how he struggles when not involved in the main play. his off ball defense sucks and if the play isn't for him, he doesn't know what to do offensively.

so he's a decent player for a bad team. i expect him to struggle when he becomes option 3 or 4

[Diop]

I must be the only one that don’t want Miles to go anywhere. We have plenty of draft capital to get a solid player without trading the only dude that will play through pain on our roster.

its just the fear of his private life blowing up again.

[vexco]

I must be the only one that don’t want Miles to go anywhere. We have plenty of draft capital to get a solid player without trading the only dude that will play through pain on our roster.

actually change that to mostly. i also dont like how he struggles when not involved in the main play. his off ball defense sucks and if the play isn't for him, he doesn't know what to do offensively.

so he's a decent player for a bad team. i expect him to struggle when he becomes option 3 or 4

I like Miles but I'd prefer someone who plays that 3rd option role better and can defend better.

[fatlever]

I must be the only one that don’t want Miles to go anywhere. We have plenty of draft capital to get a solid player without trading the only dude that will play through pain on our roster.

actually change that to mostly. i also dont like how he struggles when not involved in the main play. his off ball defense sucks and if the play isn't for him, he doesn't know what to do offensively.

so he's a decent player for a bad team. i expect him to struggle when he becomes option 3 or 4

I like Miles but I'd prefer someone who plays that 3rd option role better and can defend better.

Yeah that's exactly it. Miles always seems to play his best when he is the primary guy. But he's never really quite worked as a third option. he kind of needs the ball in his hands to be most effective. Assuming we ever do get everyone healthy maybe the best plan for miles is to have him so about early in the first and then bring him back with the second unit where he can be the dude. it would also definitely help if we played a little faster pace next year.

[Bassman]

I’m with Liver Pooty…I don’t want us to trade Miles unless we are getting back a clearly better PF…a true upgrade. Otherwise just roll with the lineup and see what a long term healthy group can actually do together.

I doubt the Pelicans will be shopping Zion, heck they sent him to represent their lottery pick. So what other options are there we could realistically deal Miles and future pick(s) for? Utah is said to be uncertain if they will keep rolling with Lauri. I still like John Collins for this team. Maybe the Jazz would like to shake things up a bit and deal Collins (after a negotiated extension is done) for Miles. Would give both teams a different look and mix. Collins played well, arguably better than Lauri. Markkanen had some injury issues last year, played only 47 games (true Hornet already), but he’s a former all star who turns 28 this month, so I doubt they deal him without a significant return. But I like his size and skill set next to Mark.

NBA is going big on the front lines as the rugged physical game is coming back. If we trade Mikes it needs to be for a stronger PF who can still hit 3’s. That’s why I like Collins.

[LofJ]

John Collins is a solid, realistic trade target. He's not a great defender, so not an upgrade on that end over Miles. But I agree that's he's a better fit as a 3rd option on this team.

If we truly want to upgrade from Miles Jaren Jackson would be an almost ideal target. He's on the last year of his contract, if he and the Grizzlies aren't able to work out an extension they're going to look to trade him. We would be crazy to not aggressively pursue him if/when that happens.

[yosemiteben]

Right now I'm less interested in upgrading and more interested in adding. I'd rather move salary and add a solid rotation piece than move Miles and get a 25% upgrade but still lack depth in our rotation.

[JMAC3]

I must be the only one that don’t want Miles to go anywhere. We have plenty of draft capital to get a solid player without trading the only dude that will play through pain on our roster.

actually change that to mostly. i also dont like how he struggles when not involved in the main play. his off ball defense sucks and if the play isn't for him, he doesn't know what to do offensively.

so he's a decent player for a bad team. i expect him to struggle when he becomes option 3 or 4

I like Miles but I'd prefer someone who plays that 3rd option role better and can defend better.

Yeah that's exactly it. Miles always seems to play his best when he is the primary guy. But he's never really quite worked as a third option. he kind of needs the ball in his hands to be most effective. Assuming we ever do get everyone healthy maybe the best plan for miles is to have him so about early in the first and then bring him back with the second unit where he can be the dude. it would also definitely help if we played a little faster pace next year.

His best season ever he was 3rd in FGA and Usage behind Melo and Rozier.

We have seen 23 games the last two seasons combined with Melo, Miles and Miller all playing together.

[Rich4114]

John Collins is a solid, realistic trade target. He's not a great defender, so not an upgrade on that end over Miles. But I agree that's he's a better fit as a 3rd option on this team.

If we truly want to upgrade from Miles Jaren Jackson would be an almost ideal target. He's on the last year of his contract, if he and the Grizzlies aren't able to work out an extension they're going to look to trade him. We would be crazy to not aggressively pursue him if/when that happens.

He most likely is just not available (Memphis would be insane) but if he were to become available, I would give up so much to get him. JJJ impacts winning and is a two way skilled big who can play PF or C. I can't think of a single player we could add at that spot who would have that much of a likely impact on winning. But I think he's just not going to be available unless he requested a trade. Memphis is a "blow it up" candidate though.

I still think Zion is the biggest impact player we'd have access to for a reasonable package and he is available according to a report that came out right after the Pelicans hired Dumars.

[JustBuzzin]

If we entertaining Zion might as well throw Embiid in there.

[JustBuzzin]

Jaylen Brown is my dream target tho.

[Goodecharlotte]

Without doubt I'd trade for JJJ and they can throw in GG Jackson as well. Williams, JJJ, Miller, Okogie and Ball that's a very nice starting 5, obviously we'd probably have to ship out Miles as part of the trade but I think it's worth it. GG I think there's alot of potential there to improve.

[vexco]

Without doubt I'd trade for JJJ and they can throw in GG Jackson as well. Williams, JJJ, Miller, Okogie and Ball that's a very nice starting 5, obviously we'd probably have to ship out Miles as part of the trade but I think it's worth it. GG I think there's alot of potential there to improve.

Miller is my favorite player. I'd give him up in a deal for JJJ if we drafted Bailey. JJJ would be unreal with Melo

[JDR720]

JJJ on his upcoming contract isn't good value. He's basically a better version of Myles Turner.

[Goodecharlotte]

I'd have either of Turner or JJJ at the Hornets to be honest. Turner's in the conference finals again I'd take that

[Bassman]

Right now I'm less interested in upgrading and more interested in adding. I'd rather move salary and add a solid rotation piece than move Miles and get a 25% upgrade but still lack depth in our rotation.

That makes the most sense and is also the more achievable scenario. Team needs quality production from the bench. Grant isn’t likely to return. If we’re leaning on Tiddy for serious minutes at the 4 that’s a problem.

[Lwcasu]

Realistically I see three options heading into the draft. A). VJ (all dependent on if Philly takes him or trades the pick to another team that takes him. B). Ace. Same as above. C). Trade the pick for a win now gamble. And, in a win now gamble I really only see two trades that might happen.

The team does something like a pick swap with NO for Zion and throws in the Dallas pick + Bridges/salary. I don’t like this option but I could understand why. The trade option I’d understand more is seeing if we could obtain KD. All these options carry significant risk but this one from a business stand point makes short-term sense. Similar trade package to Phx. We might have to give up more but ultimately you’re banking on Ball/Miller/KD going on a deep playoff run in the east. KD might also pull another decent player to join the team in FA.

The way I see it is, if we aren’t a playoff team soon Ball is going to ask for a trade. And at that point we are resetting anyways.

[JustBuzzin]

Reports are the Spurs are taking Harper.

This feels like the perfect opportunity to trade #4 for Stephon Castle. The Spurs can then draft Ace and pair him with Harper. They get a better fit and free up that guard situation. I would even throw in Salaun who they reportedly wanted last draft.

Melo/Castle/Miller can't think of a better core and these guys actually fit together.

[yosemiteben]

The Spurs are not gonna do that. I don't think any team trades their second year guy who was a top 5 pick, ROY, and by all accounts who they really like to roll the dice on another draft pick.