Offseason 2025 Thread

Post #161 » by **fatlever** » Thu May 8, 2025 5:29 pm

problem with jabari tho is his next contract
extension eligible this offseason, rfa next. whats he worh on next deal? pj washington money?
with looming extensions for mark/miller
would need to offload miles eventually

JMAC3 · Post #162 » by **JMAC3** » Fri May 9, 2025 3:09 pm

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/44938717/nba-draft-asset-rankings-stacking-all-30-teams-pick-collections

Charlotte ranked 5th.

Post #163 » by **Diop** » Tue May 13, 2025 3:16 am

fatlever wrote:problem with jabari tho is his next contract
extension eligible this offseason, rfa next. whats he worh on next deal? pj washington money?
with looming extensions for mark/miller
would need to offload miles eventually

I'm looking for a Miles replacement, Charlotte keep talking about him being a good locker room leader and his season wasn't bad, but he continually makes me nervous.

My ideal off season, I don't believe we can get a big fish like Brown, but we trade from our pool of Miles, Nurkic, Green, Okogie for Jrue Holiday.
I don't believe Boston will tank, to much ego and Miles could actually help out while Tatum rehabs.

Then get into the Houston/Phoenix deal (I still expect it to happen) where we use the Dallas first to get Jabari, maybe throw in Salaun.

Ball, Mann
Jrue, VJ
Miller, Nick Smith Jr
Jabari, Grant
Mark, Moussa

Jrue helps the team now, big defender and creator, start him but play him a ton with the bench alongside Mann. VJ takes over at Sg eventually.

I might be reaching, but I want some positive change to this team apart from scrappy end of bench players

KingCat · Post #164 » by **KingCat** » Tue May 13, 2025 3:32 am

Kuminga has been balling since Curry went out. What are the odds his contract ends up more tram friendly than Miles?

If so I'd love for then to so a sign and trade between the two players. Kuminga is almost like a younger bigger Miles as is.

Post #165 » by **Diop** » Tue May 13, 2025 3:43 am

KingCat wrote:Kuminga has been balling since Curry went out. What are the odds his contract ends up more tram friendly than Miles?

If so I'd love for then to so a sign and trade between the two players. Kuminga is almost like a younger bigger Miles as is.

he's definitely lifting his value right now.

KingCat · Post #166 » by **KingCat** » Tue May 13, 2025 3:53 am

Diop wrote:
KingCat wrote:Kuminga has been balling since Curry went out. What are the odds his contract ends up more team friendly than Miles?

If so I'd love for then to so a sign and trade between the two players. Kuminga is almost like a younger bigger Miles as is.

he's definitely lifting his value right now.

Post #167 » by **Diop** » Tue May 13, 2025 4:42 am

KingCat wrote:
Diop wrote:
KingCat wrote:Kuminga has been balling since Curry went out. What are the odds his contract ends up more team friendly than Miles?

If so I'd love for then to so a sign and trade between the two players. Kuminga is almost like a younger bigger Miles as is.

he's definitely lifting his value right now.

nah I've soured, not smart enough for me. An athletic sometimes scorer. would cost too much

Goodecharlotte · Post #168 » by **Goodecharlotte** » Tue May 13, 2025 4:52 am

After getting the 4th pick I'd seriously consider trading for Giannis. Just send them all our 1st rd picks because we'll never get a no.1 pick :banghead:

Post #169 » by **fatlever** » Tue May 13, 2025 5:16 am

Goodecharlotte wrote:After getting the 4th pick I'd seriously consider trading for Giannis. Just send them all our 1st rd picks because we'll never get a no.1 pick

I'm not sure there's any package that we could put together that could beat a package from the Spurs, Rockets or the Thunder if they decide to get in the race.

KingCat · Post #170 » by **KingCat** » Tue May 13, 2025 7:31 am

Honestly Im pro the idea of trading for Paul George, especially if it puts us in the position of getting the more consensus pick between VJ and Ace.

The last time this team was any good at all (2021 and 2022) was when we had veteran forward with guard skills playing the off ball connective piece in Gordon Hayward.

I can see Paul George coming in a replicating what Hayward was able to do those couple years ago. I know it's a gross contract, but I don't think it will mess with our longterm plans, and it's not like a big free agent is coming her on the max.

Post #171 » by **yosemiteben** » Tue May 13, 2025 10:24 am

Step 1 for me this off-season would be to use the MLE on a solid backup PG. Schroder, Russell, CP3, and Tre Jones are all UFA this summer, I'd like to exit FA with one of them signed up.

Step 2 would be to use assets to acquire a 2 way playmaking wing. Near best case scenario and my secret wish is to find a way to get Scottie Barnes and to plug him into our current starting lineup, but we probably would have to move Miles to make it all interesting (realistically probably Brandon).

wilson115 · Post #172 » by **wilson115** » Tue May 13, 2025 10:39 am

Back-up plan, if the Raptors' asking price is too much maybe we can pull a sign-and-trade for Nickeil Alexander-Walker.

Braggins · Post #173 » by **Braggins** » Tue May 13, 2025 5:26 pm

The East could be even worse next year. Tatum will miss entire season. Embiid might be done or at least significantly deteriorated. Flagg and Harper both are going West.

I think they could actually be in the running to make the playoffs with a team like the following...

starters: LaMelo ~ Edgecombe ~ Miller ~ Markkanen ~ Mark
bench 5: Mann ~ Green ~ Okogie ~ Grant (IR) ~ Diabate
depth: NSJr ~ Salaun ~ Fleming
+MLE

basically move Miles + Nurkic + pick action for Lauri. Take VJ at #4. Trade back into 1st for Fleming (Utah also has #21). They would still have the MLE and potentially one or two early 2nds (depending on how trades go) to further bolster their depth.

Just being a fun play-in team with a group like that next season would have everyone feeling great. Maybe actual playoffs are more realistic in 2026/2027 season.

Braggins · Post #174 » by **Braggins** » Tue May 13, 2025 5:29 pm

wilson115 wrote:Back-up plan, if the Raptors' asking price is too much maybe we can pull a sign-and-trade for Nickeil Alexander-Walker.

I like NWA a lot as a free agent target if they don't take VJ Edgecombe in the draft.

Post #175 » by **yosemiteben** » Sat May 17, 2025 6:20 pm

Thought exercise for the group:

Let's assume the FO is so sold on Melo as a long term piece that building around him is core to our off-season strategy. Let's also assume that Brandon and Miles are intended to be starters next season so we aren't upgrading or moving them, and also that they want a traditional center as a starter.

Given these assumptions, what is a bigger need offensively for the other rotation spot between these two archetypes - a playmaking and attacking guard that can move Melo off ball but that is not an elite shooter, or an athletic and elite C&S wing with some on ball juice but limited playmaking?

Not really draft focused with this, and more interested in what archetype would be most productive next to Melo.

HornetJail · Post #176 » by **HornetJail** » Sat May 17, 2025 6:21 pm

yosemiteben wrote:Thought exercise for the group:

Let's assume the FO is so sold on Melo as a long term piece that building around him is core to our off-season strategy. Let's also assume that Brandon and Miles are intended to be starters next season so we aren't upgrading or moving them, and also that they want a traditional center as a starter.

Given these assumptions, what is a bigger need offensively for the other rotation spot between these two archetypes - a playmaking and attacking guard that can move Melo off ball but that is not an elite shooter, or an athletic and elite C&S wing with some on ball juice but limited playmaking?

Not really draft focused with this, and more interested in what archetype would be most productive next to Melo.

the playmaker, by far

wilson115 · Post #177 » by **wilson115** » Sat May 17, 2025 11:05 pm

HornetJail wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:Thought exercise for the group:

Let's assume the FO is so sold on Melo as a long term piece that building around him is core to our off-season strategy. Let's also assume that Brandon and Miles are intended to be starters next season so we aren't upgrading or moving them, and also that they want a traditional center as a starter.

Given these assumptions, what is a bigger need offensively for the other rotation spot between these two archetypes - a playmaking and attacking guard that can move Melo off ball but that is not an elite shooter, or an athletic and elite C&S wing with some on ball juice but limited playmaking?

Not really draft focused with this, and more interested in what archetype would be most productive next to Melo.

the playmaker, by far

I'd get the playmaker so we don't have to live or die on Melo's decision-making, but that player has to defend well enough to keep from being another liability on that end like LaMelo. Otherwise we end up getting a back-up instead of a viable starter.

Post #178 » by **fatlever** » Tue May 20, 2025 5:13 pm

someone sell me on kuminga for this team in a sign and trade. i don't see the rationale vs what we'd have to pay..

Post #179 » by **Diop** » Tue May 20, 2025 11:09 pm

fatlever wrote:someone sell me on kuminga for this team in a sign and trade. i don't see the rationale vs what we'd have to pay..

if we could sign and trade him for Miles, we wouldn't have to worry players social media as much

Post #180 » by **fatlever** » Tue May 20, 2025 11:12 pm

Diop wrote:
fatlever wrote:someone sell me on kuminga for this team in a sign and trade. i don't see the rationale vs what we'd have to pay..

if we could sign and trade him for Miles, we wouldn't have to worry players social media as much

That I would do in a nano second

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