2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1

[oreon]

That would be depressing. How did we go from the chip or bust mentality of big 3 era to now we just want that playoff revenue. That's a small market mentality. I know Miami technically not a big market but I thought we were pushing to be one of the premier franchises in NBA history. I'd rather they be deluded that they think KD can win them a championship rather than settling for playoffs. Thats what the Sacramento kings do, I don't want to be like them

Bam and Herro look like fixtures here for the foreseeable future and you toss in a developing Ware and how do we go about improving that core. Based off that I said earlier we need star power scoring coming from the SF spot that's not going to strip us of that core. Durant makes sense in the short term cause that's what's going to be the available upgrade over Wiggins. The next step is getting a PG who can do two way work and hit 3's while getting the bigs and scorers the ball in good spots. Holliday would be ideal but not sure how they make that work unless we have no plans to resign Mitchell. I know Boston would be salivating at the thought of getting Duncan's relief contract.

The Heat can make almost any deal work, they have the expirings of Terry, Kyle, plus Duncan also.
For example in this case they can waive Duncan, then trade Terry <-> Jrue straight up and just absorb that contract, still have enough space under the tax to resign Davion.

Or this deal turns into a 3 team trade, where you also send Terry/Kyle to a 3rd team and Boston maybe gets some player in return for Terry.

The question here would be, do they really want to take on that Jrue contract?

Ware, Bam, Wiggins, Jrue, Herro and Davion, Highsmigh, Jovic, Larsson, Jaquez as their bench.
They'd need some leaps from Ware/Herro/Jovic to get me excited about this team, but who knows the East is gonna be weak next year.

I don't see Jrue happening on top of KD. If you trade KD, you take on 3 175 mil because of his extension. Bam 50 + salary kicks in, in a year. Then you gotta extend Tyler for more than he's earning right now. Jrue averages 33 mil or next 3 years You are looking on 4 guys making the whole cap. I think Heat would pay tax but not that much tax for that team. And do you want to take on 3 years 100 mil of Jrue after he looked like he lost a couple steps. They probably stick with that core have Davion starting if they do the dumb KD trade

[MettaWorldPanda]

Bam and Herro look like fixtures here for the foreseeable future and you toss in a developing Ware and how do we go about improving that core. Based off that I said earlier we need star power scoring coming from the SF spot that's not going to strip us of that core. Durant makes sense in the short term cause that's what's going to be the available upgrade over Wiggins. The next step is getting a PG who can do two way work and hit 3's while getting the bigs and scorers the ball in good spots. Holliday would be ideal but not sure how they make that work unless we have no plans to resign Mitchell. I know Boston would be salivating at the thought of getting Duncan's relief contract.

The Heat can make almost any deal work, they have the expirings of Terry, Kyle, plus Duncan also.
For example in this case they can waive Duncan, then trade Terry <-> Jrue straight up and just absorb that contract, still have enough space under the tax to resign Davion.

Or this deal turns into a 3 team trade, where you also send Terry/Kyle to a 3rd team and Boston maybe gets some player in return for Terry.

The question here would be, do they really want to take on that Jrue contract?

Ware, Bam, Wiggins, Jrue, Herro and Davion, Highsmigh, Jovic, Larsson, Jaquez as their bench.
They'd need some leaps from Ware/Herro/Jovic to get me excited about this team, but who knows the East is gonna be weak next year.

I don't see Jrue happening on top of KD. If you trade KD, you take on 3 175 mil because of his extension. Bam 50 + salary kicks in, in a year. Then you gotta extend Tyler for more than he's earning right now. Jrue averages 33 mil or next 3 years You are looking on 4 guys making the whole cap. I think Heat would pay tax but not that much tax for that team. And do you want to take on 3 years 100 mil of Jrue after he looked like he lost a couple steps. They probably stick with that core have Davion starting if they do the dumb KD trade

This is correct. Let Dallas get saddled with that contract

[VaDe255]

Bam and Herro look like fixtures here for the foreseeable future and you toss in a developing Ware and how do we go about improving that core. Based off that I said earlier we need star power scoring coming from the SF spot that's not going to strip us of that core. Durant makes sense in the short term cause that's what's going to be the available upgrade over Wiggins. The next step is getting a PG who can do two way work and hit 3's while getting the bigs and scorers the ball in good spots. Holliday would be ideal but not sure how they make that work unless we have no plans to resign Mitchell. I know Boston would be salivating at the thought of getting Duncan's relief contract.

The Heat can make almost any deal work, they have the expirings of Terry, Kyle, plus Duncan also.
For example in this case they can waive Duncan, then trade Terry <-> Jrue straight up and just absorb that contract, still have enough space under the tax to resign Davion.

Or this deal turns into a 3 team trade, where you also send Terry/Kyle to a 3rd team and Boston maybe gets some player in return for Terry.

The question here would be, do they really want to take on that Jrue contract?

Ware, Bam, Wiggins, Jrue, Herro and Davion, Highsmigh, Jovic, Larsson, Jaquez as their bench.
They'd need some leaps from Ware/Herro/Jovic to get me excited about this team, but who knows the East is gonna be weak next year.

I don't see Jrue happening on top of KD. If you trade KD, you take on 3 175 mil because of his extension. Bam 50 + salary kicks in, in a year. Then you gotta extend Tyler for more than he's earning right now. Jrue averages 33 mil or next 3 years You are looking on 4 guys making the whole cap. I think Heat would pay tax but not that much tax for that team. And do you want to take on 3 years 100 mil of Jrue after he looked like he lost a couple steps. They probably stick with that core have Davion starting if they do the dumb KD trade

Yeah ofc, there is no way to fit Bam, Herro, KD and Jrue under the tax.
Just saying there are going to be a lot of deals out there, especially now that Boston is foced to get under the 2nd apron.

They end up with someone, with all their expirings. If it isn't KD, it might be Jrue with another follow up trade for more scoring punch.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Heat are definitely going to be pushing for someone else within the year if they land Durant, he won’t be considered their final piece

[MettaWorldPanda]

Boy the more i study these desperate teams in the second apron the more I view Duncan’s 10 million get out of jail contract as one of the more valuable pieces out on the market. Starting to think they put that in play to one of these desperate teams for assets instead of just dumping him. We can always attach a 2nd and free up money on a Highsmith or Anderson dump to get some more wiggle room under the cap.

[MettaWorldPanda]

The Boston Celtics, Denver Nuggets, and Phoenix Suns are projected to become repeater tax teams in the 2025-2026 season if they exceed the luxury tax threshold again.

Suns are going to be banging down our door for that Duncan contract. The price of the assets going out gets a lot cheaper for Durant with that lifeline. We just have to have a proceeding contract dump move with Highsmith or Anderson to give us our own cap wiggle room. I could see a cap space team giving Boston a lifeline for either Holliday or Porzingis. Look for BK to be heavy on them with all that cap space they have.

[carnageta]

Chris Paul is our Gary Payton.

Mitchell/Cp3
Herro/Larsson
KD/backup SF
Bam/Jovic
Ware/backup C/Love

[MettaWorldPanda]

Chris Paul is our Gary Payton.

Mitchell/Cp3
Herro/Larsson
KD/backup SF
Bam/Jovic
Ware/backup C/Love

Perfect world we draft a PG of the future at 20 to go along with that

[EMC5466]

Heat are definitely going to be pushing for someone else within the year if they land Durant, he won’t be considered their final piece

Maybe someone like Harrison Barnes?

[MettaWorldPanda]

Robinson, Rozier, Jovic, and JJJ swap 20 for 29 for Durant and I say that's it. No other future draft capital needed with us giving the Suns two young players in Jovic and JJJ along with the 10 million in cap savings from Duncan. Then we go on and try to flip Wiggins and try and dump Anderson or Highsmith's contract for more cap space. Essentially the cost of Robinson, Rozier, and Jovic's extension gets flipped in Durant's salary for the next two year's. We retain Wiggins and our future draft capital for another coinciding move.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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“1. Lots of people think this pick could end up in a KD trade,” Sylvander wrote via Discord.

“2. The three names that come up most in convos about the Heat at pick 20 are Jase Richardson from Michigan State, Rasheer Fleming of Saint Josephs and Kam Jones of Marquette.”

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Don’t care about the source but won’t be shocked when we show interest in Jrue. Hes a “Heat guy” and outside of Bam and Mitchell we don’t have too many of those anymore.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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“1. Lots of people think this pick could end up in a KD trade,” Sylvander wrote via Discord.

“2. The three names that come up most in convos about the Heat at pick 20 are Jase Richardson from Michigan State, Rasheer Fleming of Saint Josephs and Kam Jones of Marquette.”

Unfortunately the source is Greg but yes id be shocked to see this pick not moved in the deal

[batterybro42]

If we do make a move we are likely going to need to go find some vet minimum guys who can potentially contribute

The two guys I would love to see get camp invites who are both currently out of the league are Hassan Whiteside, and Kendrick Nunn

Whiteside I think can still play in this league and we need a big if we are going to continue to run Bam/Ware together. I think you need somebody you can throw out there for 15 minutes a night and have them be disruptive, I think Whiteside can give you that running briefly with the 2nd unit for stretches in the late 1st to early second, and the end of the 3rd qtrs within a rotation.

What Dwight Howard gave the bubble Lakers I think Whiteside can give us

[VaDe255]

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“1. Lots of people think this pick could end up in a KD trade,” Sylvander wrote via Discord.

“2. The three names that come up most in convos about the Heat at pick 20 are Jase Richardson from Michigan State, Rasheer Fleming of Saint Josephs and Kam Jones of Marquette.”

I hope they have Cedric Coward on their radar, he looks like a JDub clone and can defend, shoot and handle, I really like him.
Picking Kam Jones this high would be a huge blunder, very much doubt that

[MettaWorldPanda]

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“1. Lots of people think this pick could end up in a KD trade,” Sylvander wrote via Discord.

“2. The three names that come up most in convos about the Heat at pick 20 are Jase Richardson from Michigan State, Rasheer Fleming of Saint Josephs and Kam Jones of Marquette.”

I hope they have Cedric Coward on their radar, he looks like a JDub clone and can defend, shoot and handle, I really like him.
Picking Kam Jones this high would be a huge blunder, very much doubt that

Kam Jones is way way too high. I could understand them liking him but not at 20. Maybe at 29 would make sense if they swap with the Suns in a Durant deal.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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Don’t care about the source but won’t be shocked when we show interest in Jrue. Hes a “Heat guy” and outside of Bam and Mitchell we don’t have too many of those anymore.

We won’t be able to sustain all that salary with Durant and he’s not worth going after unless you have a Durant. I see him in Dallas for PJW and Gafford. Both those players give them a bandaid for Tatum and the eventual dump of Porzingis.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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“1. Lots of people think this pick could end up in a KD trade,” Sylvander wrote via Discord.

“2. The three names that come up most in convos about the Heat at pick 20 are Jase Richardson from Michigan State, Rasheer Fleming of Saint Josephs and Kam Jones of Marquette.”

Unfortunately the source is Greg but yes id be shocked to see this pick not moved in the deal

Yeah i think it’s common sense to assume that at this point. Hoping it’s a swap with the Suns so we can add another young cheap cost controlled talent to replace the loss of Jovic and JJJ. Jovic was the 27th pick so we can hope to find a gem at 29.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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Ware 7’1
Bam 6’9
Durant 6’10

That’s going to be one helluva big trio

[DayofMourning]

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Ware 7’1
Bam 6’9
Durant 6’10

That’s going to be one helluva big trio

Bam to Spurs for 2 and 14.

Stay tuned.