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2025 NBA Draft

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Trade 1 of our picks for a Player
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Trade both of our picks for Player
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Trade both of our picks to move up in the draft
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#1421 » by basketballRob » Sat May 17, 2025 7:46 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
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pepe1991 wrote:LMAO, that offer wouldn't get you 15th pick let alone 3# pick in solid draft.

Seek more for. Black, Suns swap, two top 5 protected picks from 2027 & 2029 or Franz + 16# pick for 3# pick and George.


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But no, really. That's fair value for 76ers. Would i do such trade? Hell no. But that is type of haul they will be fishing for, to plug young star with Maxey and Embiid, and get rid of George.

3rd overall pick has history of being very high value one.

Luka Dončić was 3# pick traded for 5# ( Trae) + top 5 protected pick next year ( turned into 10# pick )

Before that Tatum was 3rd overall pick traded for 1# pick and conditional pick that has some strange protections and had high probability of not being converted

Current finals MVP, leagues former MVP, current DPOY and additional two top 10 players were all 3# picks - (Brown, Embiid, Mobley, , Luka, Tatum).

And posters think they can swap it for non lottery pick, backup fat , injury prone c/PF and some worthless late first round picks that are sometimes sold for money

Why stop there, let's offer Dallas top 59 protected second round pick and Jett for 1# pick. After all, Jett is 21, he can always develop into Jordan :roll:

Maybe KCP for SGA, Isaac for Jokić
Dunleavy, Darius Miles, Adam Morrison, OJ Mayo, Kanter, and Shepherd were picked 3rd. Getting picked 3rd doesn't guarantee you'll be an all-star or even a starter.

Could you imagine if we traded Wendell and 2 picks last season for Reed Shepherd? Shepherd could be good in a couple of seasons but isn't a win now type player.

We're talking about #3 picks like they are worth more than Devin Booker.

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#1422 » by basketballRob » Sat May 17, 2025 8:48 pm

Here's my sleeper to be better than Flagg. Both will be 18 until December.

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#1423 » by KillMonger » Sat May 17, 2025 11:08 pm

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#1424 » by Bensational » Sun May 18, 2025 12:00 am

pepe1991 wrote:
Bensational wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:LMAO, that offer wouldn't get you 15th pick let alone 3# pick in solid draft.

Seek more for. Black, Suns swap, two top 5 protected picks from 2027 & 2029 or Franz + 16# pick for 3# pick and George.


:reporter: - when did you cease being a Magic fan and become a 6ers fan?


:lol:

But no, really. That's fair value for 76ers. Would i do such trade? Hell no. But that is type of haul they will be fishing for, to plug young star with Maxey and Embiid, and get rid of George.

3rd overall pick has history of being very high value one.


See I think it’ll cost them the #3 just to offload George’s contract and upgrade talent. Ie, Cam Johnson + Claxton for PG + #3.

Not all drafts are created equal though, we know that. This year's 'consensus' #3 is Ace Bailey who has talent but a questionable motor. There's bound to be a stud/star taken #3 or later in this draft, but is it worth taking on PG's contract for a guy who may end up being as good as Marvin Bagley? (Not a comp, just an example of a high pick bust). I don't think I'm being a Magic homer when I say PG + #3 is nowhere near enough value for Franz, and I think Philly would know that.

Maybe if PHX blow it up they can get a big fish amongst that movement? Or Memphis? JJJr + Bane for #3 + PG. Memphis retool, avoid paying JJJr his extension, promote young guys like Aldama, GG, Edey + #3. Maintain some veteran presence so Ja doesn't worry the team is rebuilding.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#1425 » by BadMofoPimp » Sun May 18, 2025 1:54 am

In no realm on planet earth would taking on PG contract worth anything for that Walking corpse and his contract. 4 More years at $60 mil pe. Imagine paying $69mil for him at 39 years old!

That GM should be fired immediately as that is the worst contract signing in recent history.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#1426 » by RookieStar » Sun May 18, 2025 2:10 am

Bensational wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
Bensational wrote:
:reporter: - when did you cease being a Magic fan and become a 6ers fan?


:lol:

But no, really. That's fair value for 76ers. Would i do such trade? Hell no. But that is type of haul they will be fishing for, to plug young star with Maxey and Embiid, and get rid of George.

3rd overall pick has history of being very high value one.


See I think it’ll cost them the #3 just to offload George’s contract and upgrade talent. Ie, Cam Johnson + Claxton for PG + #3.

Not all drafts are created equal though, we know that. This year's 'consensus' #3 is Ace Bailey who has talent but a questionable motor. There's bound to be a stud/star taken #3 or later in this draft, but is it worth taking on PG's contract for a guy who may end up being as good as Marvin Bagley? (Not a comp, just an example of a high pick bust). I don't think I'm being a Magic homer when I say PG + #3 is nowhere near enough value for Franz, and I think Philly would know that.

Maybe if PHX blow it up they can get a big fish amongst that movement? Or Memphis? JJJr + Bane for #3 + PG. Memphis retool, avoid paying JJJr his extension, promote young guys like Aldama, GG, Edey + #3. Maintain some veteran presence so Ja doesn't worry the team is rebuilding.


Yeah this... no #3 is the same. If the #3 had a selection of prospects in the draft like Flagg Zion Paolo Luka then yeah it would be worth for even Franz + etc.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#1427 » by MasterGMer » Sun May 18, 2025 2:19 am

No way I am taking 3 + PG for Franz or plus. I am not even touching Franz tbh.

If someone I'd take, I'd trade for NO.1 pick but it is currently at least not happening.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#1428 » by pepe1991 » Sun May 18, 2025 6:07 am

Bensational wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
Bensational wrote:
:reporter: - when did you cease being a Magic fan and become a 6ers fan?


:lol:

But no, really. That's fair value for 76ers. Would i do such trade? Hell no. But that is type of haul they will be fishing for, to plug young star with Maxey and Embiid, and get rid of George.

3rd overall pick has history of being very high value one.


See I think it’ll cost them the #3 just to offload George’s contract and upgrade talent. Ie, Cam Johnson + Claxton for PG + #3.

Not all drafts are created equal though, we know that. This year's 'consensus' #3 is Ace Bailey who has talent but a questionable motor. There's bound to be a stud/star taken #3 or later in this draft, but is it worth taking on PG's contract for a guy who may end up being as good as Marvin Bagley? (Not a comp, just an example of a high pick bust). I don't think I'm being a Magic homer when I say PG + #3 is nowhere near enough value for Franz, and I think Philly would know that.

Maybe if PHX blow it up they can get a big fish amongst that movement? Or Memphis? JJJr + Bane for #3 + PG. Memphis retool, avoid paying JJJr his extension, promote young guys like Aldama, GG, Edey + #3. Maintain some veteran presence so Ja doesn't worry the team is rebuilding.


From liberty ballers blog:

Trade #1: Sixers send #3, Gordon and Drummond to Houston for #10, Jabari Smith Jr., Cam Whitmore, and a 2027 First (PHX unprotected)

Trade #2: Sixers send #3 and Drummond to Houston for #10, Tari Eason and a 2027 First (PHX unprotected)

Trade #3: Sixers send #3 and #35 to Brooklyn for #8, #27, and getting back our 2028 First (top-8 protected)

Trade #4: Sixers send #3, Gordon & Drummond to Washington for #6 and #18

Not sure Houston will be aiming for it, they probably want proven star ( KD ? lol)

Motor isn't only thing that i'm not sold on, his tunnel vision and "ability" to take worst shots possible, being nowhere near as tall as it was reported (6'7 without shoes) .

Anyway, i think 76ers will try to trade down. offloading George would be great for them.

For example Wizards get : 3# Pick, George
76ers get: Middelton, 6th pick, Carrington and Holmes

Hell, you can do Middelton and 6th pick for 3rd overall pick + George
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#1429 » by Bensational » Sun May 18, 2025 6:44 am

Call me greedy, and I know we're in win-now mode so want more veterans, but I really want both Clayton Jr and Coward. I think both guys have all the attributes we want other than experience, but they're both older players so hopefully less of a learning curve.

The more I watch Coward the more he screams steal. He almost has it all - shooting, passing, defense and crazy length. He has all the attributes to be an elite supporting player, but I reckon his handles have potential and he could develop into more on-ball creation down the line.

Clayton Jr has been talked to death, but his fit is unquestionable. And he's a winner fresh off winning - bring that energy!

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Franz/Coward/TDS
Suggs/AB
(?)/Clayton Jr/CoJo

KCP, Goga, Dell, Isaac, Cole, Jett and even TDS + PHX 26 FRP + Magic Future Firsts should be enough capital to get us quality veterans to round out that roster.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#1430 » by RookieStar » Sun May 18, 2025 7:00 am

Bensational wrote:Call me greedy, and I know we're in win-now mode so want more veterans, but I really want both Clayton Jr and Coward. I think both guys have all the attributes we want other than experience, but they're both older players so hopefully less of a learning curve.

The more I watch Coward the more he screams steal. He almost has it all - shooting, passing, defense and crazy length. He has all the attributes to be an elite supporting player, but I reckon his handles have potential and he could develop into more on-ball creation down the line.

Clayton Jr has been talked to death, but his fit is unquestionable. And he's a winner fresh off winning - bring that energy!

(?)/(?)
Paolo/Houstan/MoeWag
Franz/AB/TDS
Suggs/Coward
(?)/Clayton Jr/CoJo

KCP, Goga, Dell, Isaac, Cole, Jett and even TDS + PHX 26 FRP + Magic Future Firsts should be enough capital to get us quality veterans to round out that roster.


You gonna bet the farm on Coward? I admit he has all the tools... yet he hasnt shown it against power 5 competition. So i dunno if i can safely choose him in our 16th spot over guys that show they can
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#1431 » by RichCollab » Sun May 18, 2025 7:07 am

RookieStar wrote:
Bensational wrote:Call me greedy, and I know we're in win-now mode so want more veterans, but I really want both Clayton Jr and Coward. I think both guys have all the attributes we want other than experience, but they're both older players so hopefully less of a learning curve.

The more I watch Coward the more he screams steal. He almost has it all - shooting, passing, defense and crazy length. He has all the attributes to be an elite supporting player, but I reckon his handles have potential and he could develop into more on-ball creation down the line.

Clayton Jr has been talked to death, but his fit is unquestionable. And he's a winner fresh off winning - bring that energy!

(?)/(?)
Paolo/Houstan/MoeWag
Franz/AB/TDS
Suggs/Coward
(?)/Clayton Jr/CoJo

KCP, Goga, Dell, Isaac, Cole, Jett and even TDS + PHX 26 FRP + Magic Future Firsts should be enough capital to get us quality veterans to round out that roster.


You gonna bet the farm on Coward? I admit he has all the tools... yet he hasnt shown it against power 5 competition. So i dunno if i can safely choose him in our 16th spot over guys that show they can


Bet the farm? We aren’t even in the lottery. Hell, we drafted Jett at 11.

This draft seems particularly deep. I bet we get some solid trade options though it may be hard to move out.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#1432 » by Bensational » Sun May 18, 2025 7:12 am

RookieStar wrote:You gonna bet the farm on Coward? I admit he has all the tools... yet he hasnt shown it against power 5 competition. So i dunno if i can safely choose him in our 16th spot over guys that show they can


It’s tough cos I don’t think Clayton Jr lasts to the Denver pick, so it may be an either or. And I really like both. I think WCJr has some Jamal Murray to his game, and I think Coward has a floor of a Nesmith type and an attainable ceiling of an Anunoby.

But if Den pick + Jett can move us up to land whoever we don’t take at 16 I’d probably pay that.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#1433 » by cedric76 » Sun May 18, 2025 7:21 am

Pick 16 candidate

;t=85s

Very versatile 3&D floor spacer that have PG skills
Suggs, Tyus, Jase
Bane, AB, Jett
Franz, TDS,
P5, JI, Panda
Wcj, Goga, Moe
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Post#1434 » by Rainwater » Sun May 18, 2025 7:26 am

I really don't care about this draft, I'm hoping for some trades.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#1435 » by Skybox » Sun May 18, 2025 10:21 am

cedric76 wrote:Pick 16 candidate

;t=85s

Very versatile 3&D floor spacer that have PG skills


That’s a really good podcast, imo…I don’t know why exactly, but they clearly have access, like legit scouts. I value their takes.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#1436 » by basketballRob » Sun May 18, 2025 4:12 pm

Danny Wolf is still intriguing to me. The first thing that pops off the screen in his highlights is that he looks like an NBA vet playing with kids. Also, his passing and ballhandling is something I haven't seen from a college player. He's bigger than you think. He's the same size as Jokic. A player the size of Jokic who can handle and pass like Ingles is intriguing. He's also a Vuc level rebounder.

I don't think we'll draft a guard. We'll trade for one. Over half the roster was guards last season. My guess is that one of Goga, WCS, Moe, or Isaac will be included in a trade for a guard, leaving an opening to draft a big.

https://www.fiba.basketball/en/history/281-fiba-u20-eurobasket/208566/players/344261-daniel-wolf

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#1437 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Sun May 18, 2025 5:39 pm

basketballRob wrote:Danny Wolf is still intriguing to me. The first thing that pops off the screen in his highlights is that he looks like an NBA vet playing with kids. Also, his passing and ballhandling is something I haven't seen from a college player. He's bigger than you think. He's the same size as Jokic. A player the size of Jokic who can handle and pass like Ingles is intriguing. He's also a Vuc level rebounder.

I don't think we'll draft a guard. We'll trade for one. Over half the roster was guards last season. My guess is that one of Goga, WCS, Moe, or Isaac will be included in a trade for a guard, leaving an opening to draft a big.

https://www.fiba.basketball/en/history/281-fiba-u20-eurobasket/208566/players/344261-daniel-wolf

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He’ll be abused on the defensive side in the NBA and has one of the highest turnover ratios at 25%. He’s the C version of Kyle Anderson. With 25 maybe but I’d rather go after wing depth and re up Moe W
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Post#1438 » by Skybox » Sun May 18, 2025 5:53 pm

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
basketballRob wrote:Danny Wolf is still intriguing to me. The first thing that pops off the screen in his highlights is that he looks like an NBA vet playing with kids. Also, his passing and ballhandling is something I haven't seen from a college player. He's bigger than you think. He's the same size as Jokic. A player the size of Jokic who can handle and pass like Ingles is intriguing. He's also a Vuc level rebounder.

I don't think we'll draft a guard. We'll trade for one. Over half the roster was guards last season. My guess is that one of Goga, WCS, Moe, or Isaac will be included in a trade for a guard, leaving an opening to draft a big.

https://www.fiba.basketball/en/history/281-fiba-u20-eurobasket/208566/players/344261-daniel-wolf

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He’ll be abused on the defensive side in the NBA and has one of the highest turnover ratios at 25%. He’s the C version of Kyle Anderson. With 25 maybe but I’d rather go after wing depth and re up Moe W


Those are my concerns...not so much the turnover rate, because I like a guy who tries to make the passes...that can be refined (maybe)...the physical domination is what scares me - on both ends. Sometimes these uber-skilled guys get eaten alive by the raw physical marvels who develop later but have the NBA physical profiles. I'm not saying he doesn't -just would be my concern...and I'd love a bigger, young Kyle Anderson for this team. I'd actually love Kyle Anderson himself and/or Jingles here next year. Those are the kind of guys that (if they're still ambulatory) can raise the whole team's BBIQ just by osmosis.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#1439 » by basketballRob » Sun May 18, 2025 6:04 pm

I think Wolf might hold his own based on how well he's able to rebound the ball. He averaged 12 rpg in the 7 FIBA games and the 10 rpg the last 2 seasons in college. His measurements were the same as Jokic's. He looked smaller because he shared the starting lineup with a 7'1" player.

Mosely's offense might work with a big who can pass at the top of the arc. He could pass over the defense like Hedo did.

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Post#1440 » by Idiosyncratic » Sun May 18, 2025 7:41 pm

basketballRob wrote:I think Wolf might hold his own based on how well he's able to rebound the ball. He averaged 12 rpg in the 7 FIBA games and the 10 rpg the last 2 seasons in college. His measurements were the same as Jokic's. He looked smaller because he shared the starting lineup with a 7'1" player.

Mosely's offense might work with a big who can pass at the top of the arc. He could pass over the defense like Hedo did.

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Agree with you on Wolf. Also think there is a chance his game just levels up with NBA spacing.

We need a lot of help on offense to improve from 27th best offense in the league, on par with teams that were losing on purpose. It isn't just plug in a 6th man and all is fixed. A player with his kind of passing instincts could go a long way for our team.

I would be very open to taking Wolf, he has risen a lot for me the deeper I look into his game. I think he might even be able to play some minutes at the 4 which is good for us with only Isaac in that backup slot. The shot seems like it can get to competent from 3, but the free throw percentage does give me some pause.

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