Rockets would be open to trading Alperen Sengun in Giannis Trade

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Re: Rockets would be open to trading Alperen Sengun in Giannis Trade 

Post#81 » by sp6r=underrated » Sat May 17, 2025 5:49 pm

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Thanks Dr. Phil great job. Lol you actually think Nico Harrison trading Luka to LA for an aging Anthony Davis, Max Christie, and a draft pick years from now was a solid move? Come on man


I think Nico Harrison was acting in what he felt was the best interests of the Mavericks. He was really bad at his job.

If you believe the trade was made because Nico secretly wanted to help the lakers due to Nike. You should stop following the Mavericks. IF you think he made the trade because Silver forced him to and in return gave him Flagg you should stop following the NBA since it isn't a real sports league.



If Nico Harrison acted in the best interests of the Mavericks he would have shopped Luka around to a few teams that could have offered a better return. Only calling Pelinka cause you just have to have Davis? No i dont think he is that incompetent, or “bad at his job.” I think there was some stuff behind closed doors that we will never know. LA got a generational talent to lead the franchise and James another star sidekick. Mavs got Flagg in return. No need for you to get so defensive lol


Dude you care about a league you think it is fixed. That's moronic. I sincerely urge you not to follow the NBA since in your mind it is the WWE.

As to Nico not shopping him that's due to him being bad at his job. Blame Cuban for hiring him.
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Re: Rockets would be open to trading Alperen Sengun in Giannis Trade 

Post#82 » by Pattycakes » Sat May 17, 2025 5:52 pm

Houston would definitely regret that. I can see this going the way the Dame acquisition went for MIL.

Portland completely reset their trajectory acquiring Deni and Camara (both are future frontcourt) plus 3-4 of the top pick opportunities on the market.

I can see a team going all in for Giannis, then he falls to knee issues or something constantly in and out, and the team mortgaging way too much for the “ideal” scenario that is halfway a pipe dream.

Just my two cents. I love Giannis as a legend, but I don’t think it’s some surefire thing for anyone and I would consider that before aping 5 1sts and your best top young talents.

Keeping in mind that MIL really has zero leverage, if I’m considering him I’m letting others outbid me before going past the point of comfort just to be the hot topic for a summer.
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Re: Rockets would be open to trading Alperen Sengun in Giannis Trade 

Post#83 » by Moahst » Sat May 17, 2025 7:15 pm

It's really hard to make a Giannis trade make sense for the Rockets without including other teams and other players. Sure, trading Sengun for Giannis is a no brainer, but trading both Sengun and Amen Thompson for Giannis is probably a no from Houston. So either way you're pairing Giannis with a robin who is not a floor spacer. What does that offense look like? Can you play Giannis and Amen Thompson 40+ minutes per game and expect to win? Can you play Giannis and Sengun together and expect to have a functional offense? Either way I can't help but feel like this is all just a BS PR smokescreen in an inevitable KD trade for the Rockets just like the "Rockets don't need Devin Booker" talk.
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Re: Rockets would be open to trading Alperen Sengun in Giannis Trade 

Post#84 » by MavsDirk41 » Sat May 17, 2025 10:29 pm

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I think Nico Harrison was acting in what he felt was the best interests of the Mavericks. He was really bad at his job.

If you believe the trade was made because Nico secretly wanted to help the lakers due to Nike. You should stop following the Mavericks. IF you think he made the trade because Silver forced him to and in return gave him Flagg you should stop following the NBA since it isn't a real sports league.



If Nico Harrison acted in the best interests of the Mavericks he would have shopped Luka around to a few teams that could have offered a better return. Only calling Pelinka cause you just have to have Davis? No i dont think he is that incompetent, or “bad at his job.” I think there was some stuff behind closed doors that we will never know. LA got a generational talent to lead the franchise and James another star sidekick. Mavs got Flagg in return. No need for you to get so defensive lol


Dude you care about a league you think it is fixed. That's moronic. I sincerely urge you not to follow the NBA since in your mind it is the WWE.

As to Nico not shopping him that's due to him being bad at his job. Blame Cuban for hiring him.




Ill take the advice from some random guy on realgm lol
Ok man thanks move along
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Re: Rockets would be open to trading Alperen Sengun in Giannis Trade 

Post#85 » by Effigy » Sun May 18, 2025 3:35 am

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If you really believe this you should stop caring about NBA outcomes or become a lakers fan.


typical garbage reasoning. "Hey guys, yes things suck and are corrupt but why complain, just stop caring then these things about something you love won't bother you?!"


Some problems can be fixed. The NBA had a problem where the game had become too tilted towards defenses so they changed the rules post-2004 and the game became more balanced. MLB had a problem where games were becoming too long so they introduced a pitch clock. Game time has gone down significantly since the change.

But other problems are unfixable. The Conspiracy Theory about the NBA is that the owners working through the commissioner manipulates trades and the draft to ensure the Lakers are a perpetual contender and also other preferred teams selectively benefit.

If this conspiracy is true the NBA's current owners, commissioner, former owners, key management personnel and business partners have engaged in a multi-decade conspiracy to defraud customers. The conspirators are so powerful they've managed a multi-decade conspiracy without any evidence for the conspiracy leaking out.

If this is true the NBA is unfixable because the entire institution of the NBA is corrupt. So if you believe in the conspiracy you shouldn't care about the NBA.

Spoiler:
The conspiracy isn't true. And most believers suffer from low social trust.


It obviously is fixable because the NFL doesn't have it. They don't have a lottery system, they just give the top pick to the worst team. They don't have one big market team pulling off insane trades over and over again. They aren't obsessed with their big markets like the NBA is. I don't think MLB has it either that I know of. They have people complaining that there's no salary cap, which benefits the big markets, but you don't see big market teams pulling off trades they shouldn't be able to pull off, and again, no draft lottery.

There is a TON of smoke around the NBA being corrupt and rigged. And as most of us know where there's smoke there's fire. But some people I guess can just be told their house isn't on fire when they can see it is, and just believe it.
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Re: Rockets would be open to trading Alperen Sengun in Giannis Trade 

Post#86 » by thamadkant » Sun May 18, 2025 3:38 am

There's a reason Giannis leaked he wants to stay East... and Nets and Raptors being mentioned.
It's a bus ride from New York city.


Come January 2026, Giannis will force a trade to Knicks, whether Knicks win the ship or lose ECF or Finals. Bucks can't tank because they have Lillard on 60M a year so a trade like Giannis for Towns and OG will be the deal.
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Re: Rockets would be open to trading Alperen Sengun in Giannis Trade 

Post#87 » by G R E Y » Sun May 18, 2025 3:41 am

I, too, would be willing to buy a winning lottery ticket for $5.
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Re: Rockets would be open to trading Alperen Sengun in Giannis Trade 

Post#88 » by Dan Z » Sun May 18, 2025 4:13 am

G R E Y wrote:I, too, would be willing to buy a winning lottery ticket for $5.


It's funny that some people think a team will get a discount because Giannis might ask to be traded there.
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Re: Rockets would be open to trading Alperen Sengun in Giannis Trade 

Post#89 » by ScrantonBulls » Sun May 18, 2025 4:48 am

sp6r=underrated wrote:
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sp6r=underrated wrote:
I think Nico Harrison was acting in what he felt was the best interests of the Mavericks. He was really bad at his job.

If you believe the trade was made because Nico secretly wanted to help the lakers due to Nike. You should stop following the Mavericks. IF you think he made the trade because Silver forced him to and in return gave him Flagg you should stop following the NBA since it isn't a real sports league.



If Nico Harrison acted in the best interests of the Mavericks he would have shopped Luka around to a few teams that could have offered a better return. Only calling Pelinka cause you just have to have Davis? No i dont think he is that incompetent, or “bad at his job.” I think there was some stuff behind closed doors that we will never know. LA got a generational talent to lead the franchise and James another star sidekick. Mavs got Flagg in return. No need for you to get so defensive lol


Dude you care about a league you think it is fixed. That's moronic. I sincerely urge you not to follow the NBA since in your mind it is the WWE.

As to Nico not shopping him that's due to him being bad at his job. Blame Cuban for hiring him.

I'm convinced he loves being miserable about the NBA. Most of his posts are ornery and about how he hates LeBron or how somebody is giving LeBron too much credit. It never seems like he is happy talking about basketball.The Luka Doncic trade is just a big Klutch conspiracy orchestrated by that god damn evil SOB LeBron James.
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Re: Rockets would be open to trading Alperen Sengun in Giannis Trade 

Post#90 » by basketballto » Sun May 18, 2025 5:25 am

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Magic_Johnny12 wrote:If I’m the Bucks I tell Houston the conversations start with Amen or kick rocks. Sengun is a joke of an offer as the main centerpiece.

And that goes without saying, same with OKC and JDub, same with the Spurs and Castle.

The opportunity to acquire a player like Giannis is literally generational.


I agree with this sentiment. If you trading for Giannis, you have to open the bag. I am a Spurs fan and my preference would be an offer based around the 2nd pick and future picks however, if the Bucks want Castle, I would drive him there myself.


Wemby get's it done. Would you make the deal for the best player in the nba for a potential mvp with injury risks on both sides? If you had control for 3 years before you were fired and wanted to see a championship you take Giannis.
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Re: Rockets would be open to trading Alperen Sengun in Giannis Trade 

Post#91 » by Rustyman » Sun May 18, 2025 5:34 am

basketballto wrote: Wemby get's it done. Would you make the deal for the best player in the nba for a potential mvp with injury risks on both sides? If you had control for 3 years before you were fired and wanted to see a championship you take Giannis.


Wemby can say he will be out for the full year next year and the Spurs would still not trade him for Giannis.
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Post#92 » by DreamTeam09 » Sun May 18, 2025 6:17 am

I'd take that as a starting point if I was Milwaukee & build from there. Get Jabari+Reed+picks as well.
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Post#93 » by Lalouie » Sun May 18, 2025 6:33 am

if i'm giannis i don't want to play with a bunch of KIDS. in fact, off hand i don't know of any superstar with a championship resume in his peak years leaving to waste away. btler went to gsw,,,kawhi played with pg,,,lebron doesn't like playing with inexperience,,,and kd has been playing with his peers

so the idea of hou is out of the question!!!! stars want to play with the players they've grown with
when you've worked hard to achieve a certain elite level, you want to MAINTAIN that status, not go back to school
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Re: Rockets would be open to trading Alperen Sengun in Giannis Trade 

Post#94 » by Dan Z » Sun May 18, 2025 8:14 am

Lalouie wrote:if i'm giannis i don't want to play with a bunch of KIDS. in fact, off hand i don't know of any superstar with a championship resume in his peak years leaving to waste away. btler went to gsw,,,kawhi played with pg,,,lebron doesn't like playing with inexperience,,,and kd has been playing with his peers

so the idea of hou is out of the question!!!! stars want to play with the players they've grown with
when you've worked hard to achieve a certain elite level, you want to MAINTAIN that status, not go back to school


Houston has vets (FVV, Dillon Brooks and Adams) plus young players who are improving (Thompson, Jabari, Eason, etc.).

It's a better situation than the one he currently has in Milwaukee.
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Post#95 » by Lalouie » Sun May 18, 2025 8:49 am

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Lalouie wrote:if i'm giannis i don't want to play with a bunch of KIDS. in fact, off hand i don't know of any superstar with a championship resume in his peak years leaving to waste away. btler went to gsw,,,kawhi played with pg,,,lebron doesn't like playing with inexperience,,,and kd has been playing with his peers

so the idea of hou is out of the question!!!! stars want to play with the players they've grown with
when you've worked hard to achieve a certain elite level, you want to MAINTAIN that status, not go back to school


Houston has vets (FVV, Dillon Brooks and Adams) plus young players who are improving (Thompson, Jabari, Eason, etc.).

It's a better situation than the one he currently has in Milwaukee.


fvv, brooks, adams, and GIANNIS is a "what's wrong with this picture"

in spite of the buck's age they had reliable experience and therefore dependable. People in life rely on experience and dependability. it is comforting and it matters in sports. Giannis has played with khris, lopez, jrue, connaughton, portis, and lillard

Hou is a no go. you're asking giannis to start over

bringing a young'n from Hou is a better idea than giannis to Hou. the bucks will hunt for players. Hou is a massive uncertainty. it makes zero sense to expect chemistry @hou
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Post#96 » by TheRaptor! » Sun May 18, 2025 9:36 am

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Raptors fans have been trolling about this since 2019

I guess nothing better to do when your franchise cornerstone is Scottie Barnes


Scottie Barnes is about to be your franchise' corner stone LOL

Tell me why you would stay if you were Giannis and its obvious why the rumours are out there. When theres smoke there is fire

Your team's championship vets are old as hell, Dame is out for the year and hes done, your young talent is non existent, the draft picks are non existant, i literally do not see a way for your team to improve.

Good luck


In what universe is Scottie Barnes bringing back Giannis in a trade? Even Scottie Barnes and Brandon Ingram makes no sense

IQ, Poetl, and RJ are the only other players worth mentioning, so let’s not pretend the Raptors are brimming with young talent either


Y'all are so so cooked it’s not even funny. No salary no picks and the supporting cast from the ring is either gone or getting washed af

Giannis is going to want to stay in the East instead of the West bloodbath

You're going to take Scottie and like it.
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Post#97 » by magee » Sun May 18, 2025 9:37 am

Sengun/Smith Jr./Whitmore/Landale/picks the package it would have to be built around.
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Post#98 » by JayMKE » Sun May 18, 2025 11:22 am

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Scottie Barnes is about to be your franchise' corner stone LOL

Tell me why you would stay if you were Giannis and its obvious why the rumours are out there. When theres smoke there is fire

Your team's championship vets are old as hell, Dame is out for the year and hes done, your young talent is non existent, the draft picks are non existant, i literally do not see a way for your team to improve.

Good luck


In what universe is Scottie Barnes bringing back Giannis in a trade? Even Scottie Barnes and Brandon Ingram makes no sense

IQ, Poetl, and RJ are the only other players worth mentioning, so let’s not pretend the Raptors are brimming with young talent either


Y'all are so so cooked it’s not even funny. No salary no picks and the supporting cast from the ring is either gone or getting washed af

Giannis is going to want to stay in the East instead of the West bloodbath

You're going to take Scottie and like it.


Giannis will stay in Milwaukee just like Toronto will stay on the treadmill with Masai

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Post#99 » by GiannisAnte34 » Sun May 18, 2025 12:52 pm

TheAlchemist wrote:Wait , am I missing something?

If the rockets have to give up Sengun and Green + picks, what would they really have left? Amen Thompson, Fred Van Vleet, Dillon Brooks and Giannis? Is that even enough?

A trade of Sengun + Green for Giannis + Portis works. Just think that's a lot to give up man.


Sengun + Green is a terrible package coming back

We will just keep Giannis

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