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Post#341 » by arkuo » Sat May 17, 2025 5:47 pm

I'd be honest, a lot of this can be fixed with AD just playing the 5.

Kyrie
Klay
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PJ
AD

That's your starting 5. PJ helps with rebounding if AD doesn't like boxing out.

Just play a 2 center lineup strategically against teams like Denver or OKC.

I get that AD is preserved if he doesn't play the 5 but a lot of things changed when the Mavs won the lottery.
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Post#342 » by Archx » Sat May 17, 2025 6:04 pm

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Archx wrote:Lakers insiders keep mentioning 2 biggest names for their center needs. Gafford and Claxton. There has to be something working out in the backgrounds. Luka told Gaff they'll play together again and Mavs don't have money to keep roster like it is. :dontknow:

Pelinka made a terrible mistake with the Williams trade, which he fixed, overpaying for Gafford would be a worse mistake, paying a 1st for Claxton is an overpay, but much more preferable than for Gafford.


I keep thinking Pelinka will offer Knecht+1st round for Gaff. I think that would be a very good offer because Knecht has become undervalued since JJ buried him on the bench for some weird reason and that 1st pick would be good to have just because it's 1st.
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Post#343 » by arkuo » Sat May 17, 2025 6:19 pm

Archx wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:
Archx wrote:Lakers insiders keep mentioning 2 biggest names for their center needs. Gafford and Claxton. There has to be something working out in the backgrounds. Luka told Gaff they'll play together again and Mavs don't have money to keep roster like it is. :dontknow:

Pelinka made a terrible mistake with the Williams trade, which he fixed, overpaying for Gafford would be a worse mistake, paying a 1st for Claxton is an overpay, but much more preferable than for Gafford.


I keep thinking Pelinka will offer Knecht+1st round for Gaff. I think that would be a very good offer because Knecht has become undervalued since JJ buried him on the bench for some weird reason and that 1st pick would be good to have just because it's 1st.



Best thing Mavs can do now is create a bidding war for Gaff. lots of teams need starting quality centers now. Let them have at it and see what comes up.

Teams like the Lakers and Golden State cannot afford to start the season without a starting center. That's wasting another year of Luka or Curry. One team will be desperate.
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Post#344 » by 41Dirk41 » Sat May 17, 2025 6:33 pm

arkuo wrote:I'd be honest, a lot of this can be fixed with AD just playing the 5.

Kyrie
Klay
Flagg
PJ
AD

That's your starting 5. PJ helps with rebounding if AD doesn't like boxing out.

Just play a 2 center lineup strategically against teams like Denver or OKC.

I get that AD is preserved if he doesn't play the 5 but a lot of things changed when the Mavs won the lottery.


Yes that's right, this lineup is very good and balanced...
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Post#345 » by 41Dirk41 » Sat May 17, 2025 6:34 pm

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Darren wrote:Golden States expressed interest in Gafford. I am not sure what will be offered, though.


Kuminga? Podz?

Podz is just 22 so same age as Lively.

Can also be a smokescreen for leverage. Lakers want Gafford? You have to cough up Reaves or Gaff goes to the bay area.


I take Podz or Kuminga over Reaves all day
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Post#346 » by joesha1698 » Sat May 17, 2025 8:45 pm

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joesha1698 wrote:If Jaylen Brown is available along with a draft pick from the Celtics for Flagg, we have to at least entertain it. I would have to seriously think about pulling the trigger on a trade like that. Jaylen is 28 and I like Flagg but I dont sense his ceiling is that high but potential is tricky, you never know.


Have you seen his insane contract? How do you even structure a trade for him?



Forgot about his contract. That's a no go.
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Post#347 » by Mr B » Sat May 17, 2025 8:47 pm

arkuo wrote:
Archx wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:Pelinka made a terrible mistake with the Williams trade, which he fixed, overpaying for Gafford would be a worse mistake, paying a 1st for Claxton is an overpay, but much more preferable than for Gafford.


I keep thinking Pelinka will offer Knecht+1st round for Gaff. I think that would be a very good offer because Knecht has become undervalued since JJ buried him on the bench for some weird reason and that 1st pick would be good to have just because it's 1st.



Best thing Mavs can do now is create a bidding war for Gaff. lots of teams need starting quality centers now. Let them have at it and see what comes up.

Teams like the Lakers and Golden State cannot afford to start the season without a starting center. That's wasting another year of Luka or Curry. One team will be desperate.

Chicago and Milwaukee will likely be in the market for new Centers too.
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Post#348 » by Mr B » Sat May 17, 2025 10:40 pm

With all the lob targets on this team we are going to have a lot of fun watching the Mavs this year (pending they don’t do anything crazy).

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Post#349 » by daoneandonly » Sun May 18, 2025 1:40 am

No more trading with the Lakers I hope. To heck with what Luka wants.

And no contending team would be starting klay Thompson in 2025
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Post#350 » by Michaellam1987 » Sun May 18, 2025 3:38 am

daoneandonly wrote:No more trading with the Lakers I hope. To heck with what Luka wants.

And no contending team would be starting klay Thompson in 2025


It is kind of a respect to Klay, unless he is great on 3PT that night, otherwise Max or Naji will be replacing him in the game closing line up.
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Post#351 » by Michaellam1987 » Sun May 18, 2025 3:44 am

arkuo wrote:
Archx wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:Pelinka made a terrible mistake with the Williams trade, which he fixed, overpaying for Gafford would be a worse mistake, paying a 1st for Claxton is an overpay, but much more preferable than for Gafford.


I keep thinking Pelinka will offer Knecht+1st round for Gaff. I think that would be a very good offer because Knecht has become undervalued since JJ buried him on the bench for some weird reason and that 1st pick would be good to have just because it's 1st.



Best thing Mavs can do now is create a bidding war for Gaff. lots of teams need starting quality centers now. Let them have at it and see what comes up.

Teams like the Lakers and Golden State cannot afford to start the season without a starting center. That's wasting another year of Luka or Curry. One team will be desperate.


Actually, not much teams are in great need of C, other than LAL/GSW/MIL/may be PHX, however, dont forget there are teams in surplus of C besides DAL, such as POR/ORL. Hence, dont overestimate what we can get for Gafford.
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Post#352 » by Teffer10 » Sun May 18, 2025 6:07 am

Mr B wrote:With all the lob targets on this team we are going to have a lot of fun watching the Mavs this year (pending they don’t do anything crazy).

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Coop's favorite player is Tatum so he'll want to pattern his game.
I'd like to see him develop into a great creator and that could take him to the highest level.
The physical and mental attributes are there, and it just depends on the will and dedication to improve his all around game.

If he can develop playmaking skills and get into the lane consistently, it will become a lob fest every night.
That's why I like him at SF because he'll draw the shot-blocker and have 2 options for lobs.

It might be a blessing in disguise if we don't get a starter quality PG to cover during Kyrie's absence and Coop is forced to take on some playmaking responsibilities.
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Post#353 » by ACMFFL » Sun May 18, 2025 6:26 am

I just realize that Jrue third year is PO, I thought it was a TO, in that case I dont see how he holds positive value in this new CBA environment..
In any Jrue to Dallas trade Mavs have to dump all of Klay, Caleb and Hardy without giving up any draft capital.
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Post#354 » by ACMFFL » Sun May 18, 2025 6:27 am

Archx wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:
Archx wrote:Lakers insiders keep mentioning 2 biggest names for their center needs. Gafford and Claxton. There has to be something working out in the backgrounds. Luka told Gaff they'll play together again and Mavs don't have money to keep roster like it is. :dontknow:

Pelinka made a terrible mistake with the Williams trade, which he fixed, overpaying for Gafford would be a worse mistake, paying a 1st for Claxton is an overpay, but much more preferable than for Gafford.


I keep thinking Pelinka will offer Knecht+1st round for Gaff. I think that would be a very good offer because Knecht has become undervalued since JJ buried him on the bench for some weird reason and that 1st pick would be good to have just because it's 1st.


I despise the Fakers but for that kind of offer I would drive Gaff myself to LA lol
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Post#355 » by ACMFFL » Sun May 18, 2025 7:38 am

Lmfao I took a look at the Celtics board and some of them actually believe they could get Flagg for Brown :crazy: so damn delusional :lol:
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Post#356 » by arkuo » Sun May 18, 2025 8:02 am

ACMFFL wrote:Lmfao I took a look at the Celtics board and some of them actually believe they could get Flagg for Brown :crazy: so damn delusional :lol:



They need to understand that we can be accomplices. That being said, we send them AD for KP and Silver gives us another 1st overall pick in the lottery next year for saving Boston. We're in the business of receiving young talent in exchange for the assistance, not giving it away right after receiving it. Leprechaun-sized brains for leprechaun-sized people. :nod:
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Post#357 » by arkuo » Sun May 18, 2025 8:22 am

I think Dallas has to invest in a Coby White. He will be here long after Kyrie and AD have retired and will be there to be Flagg and Lively's point guard for the foreseeable future. Two timelines to take care of.
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Post#358 » by Teffer10 » Sun May 18, 2025 8:52 am

What do you guys think about Ant Black and the chances of getting him?

I haven't followed Black much so not sure about his status and upside but how would this deal look for all teams involved?

Orlando receives - Reaves/Hayes/Omax
LA receives - Gafford/Klay/2029 (their pick back)
Dallas receives - Black/Carter/Maxi, Gabe or Vanderbuilt

Salaries should be close and some picks would probably have to be involved.
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Post#359 » by Mavrelous » Sun May 18, 2025 9:42 am

Teffer10 wrote:What do you guys think about Ant Black and the chances of getting him?

I haven't followed Black much so not sure about his status and upside but how would this deal look for all teams involved?

Orlando receives - Reaves/Hayes/Omax
LA receives - Gafford/Klay/2029 (their pick back)
Dallas receives - Black/Carter/Maxi, Gabe or Vanderbuilt

Salaries should be close and some picks would probably have to be involved.

If Mavs are paying for Reaves I prefer him, but I liked Black a lot during the draft.
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Post#360 » by Teffer10 » Sun May 18, 2025 9:47 am

Mavrelous wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:What do you guys think about Ant Black and the chances of getting him?

I haven't followed Black much so not sure about his status and upside but how would this deal look for all teams involved?

Orlando receives - Reaves/Hayes/Omax
LA receives - Gafford/Klay/2029 (their pick back)
Dallas receives - Black/Carter/Maxi, Gabe or Vanderbuilt

Salaries should be close and some picks would probably have to be involved.

If Mavs are paying for Reaves I prefer him, but I liked Black a lot during the draft.

I'm pretty sure Orlando is looking for offense and Reaves provides that. Black makes some sense for us because he is a great defender and has good size to play next to Kyrie when he returns, and young to develop with Lively and CF.

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