Eastern Conference Finals Matchup Set: Knicks vs. Pacers

[knicks94]

Yes

I know half of the forum doesn't like him, but I would love to see Kolek get some playing time in this series.

No one dislikes kolek. We just know he isn't ready yet. He is too weak and sure as hell isn't ready for playoff mins.

There is this thing around here that if posters aren't "homers" and point out somw flaws or have reasonable expectations they're labeled "haters" its kinda absurd. Kolek has a chance to be a decent player in the league. But its not happening unless he puts on some muscle, can play in the mud, and hold space. He is way to easily pushed around out there. Great vision, feel for the game, and his shot is nice. He flashed this year.

Well you also have posters who are such fans of players or coaches that they'll hate on any player that they interpret as a threat to their fandom. I sort of noticed that during the time when Kolek was playing significant minutes. And I don't expect Kolek to get any important time on the floor, using him in garbage time or having him come for 2 or 3 minutes a game wouldn't be the worst decision.

[knicks94]

Yes

I know half of the forum doesn't like him, but I would love to see Kolek get some playing time in this series.

He has no business playing in this series, none. The series is going to be too intense for a rookie to get any time in.

Like I alluded to previously, I think it would be absurd to give him any important minutes in this series. Having him play in garbage time or for 1 or 2 minutes wouldn't be a disaster of a decision.

[LFGK]

The hali glazing is disgusting. Have some shame.

I know you can't help it but nodope and1ing this is the real disappointment.

Career 17.5 and 9 guy the love for this guy is nuts, man is a decent ball player to me he's the 8-10th best PG in the sport and SEVERLY overrated

Still too high.

His handle is wacky can't finish in traffic or handle contact. Is carried by his teammates. Not even going to address his defense. Im surprised he is even in the league. Completely manufactured "star" to appease all the nerds. He is everything wrong with modern basketball and is single handedly ruining the game.

Well him, the Celtics offensive game, Harden and to an extent curry(made every kid coming up they could shoot like him) are the reasons for the game, that pistons series, that was basketball, defense, strategy, the OCCASIONAL 3 ball. All this spamming of 3's, the gather, the step back off 3 steps, it's nonsense. Best way to counter is get rid of the corner 3. Rant over, let's beat these bums

[NoDopeOnSundays]

I know half of the forum doesn't like him, but I would love to see Kolek get some playing time in this series.

He has no business playing in this series, none. The series is going to be too intense for a rookie to get any time in.

Like I alluded to previously, I think it would be absurd to give him any important minutes in this series. Having him play in garbage time or for 1 or 2 minutes wouldn't be a disaster of a decision.

I'd play Wright in garbage time, in a playoff series you don't want to give the opponents anything, not even in garbage time. No rays of sunshine where they can go back and look at the tape later and see something they liked that was working because rookies were on the floor.

[LFGK]

Yes

I know half of the forum doesn't like him, but I would love to see Kolek get some playing time in this series.

This is the problem with Thibs. I'm not picking any specific players to be added to the rotation but, we have been running off the court in the second half of too many games this season because players were gassed. Players getting overuse injuries in December? Really? Non contact injuries playing the most minutes of their careers. Like... It's not rocket science. We needed to trust some bench players and let them find their roles here. Now we are 90+ games in and Thibs still doesn't care.

You aren't getting Kolek this year he's too green, next year definitely, Achiuwa stinks, Huk is also a bit green, who else is left? You will prob get an 8th person this series prob Payne and the 3 off the bench will have to be closer to 25-30 min and they will be fine, this 10-11 man deep is not gonna happen, wouldn't be surprised to have it work against the pacers this series.

[Guano]

I know half of the forum doesn't like him, but I would love to see Kolek get some playing time in this series.

No one dislikes kolek. We just know he isn't ready yet. He is too weak and sure as hell isn't ready for playoff mins.

There is this thing around here that if posters aren't "homers" and point out somw flaws or have reasonable expectations they're labeled "haters" its kinda absurd. Kolek has a chance to be a decent player in the league. But its not happening unless he puts on some muscle, can play in the mud, and hold space. He is way to easily pushed around out there. Great vision, feel for the game, and his shot is nice. He flashed this year.

Well you also have posters who are such fans of players or coaches that they'll hate on any player that they interpret as a threat to their fandom. I sort of noticed that during the time when Kolek was playing significant minutes. And I don't expect Kolek to get any important time on the floor, using him in garbage time or having him come for 2 or 3 minutes a game wouldn't be the worst decision.

Playoffs aren't the time to fck around. He hasn't earned playoff mins. Our 7 man rotation has been solid.

Cam has been buns. If were going to talk any player who might have earned some playoff mins its Wright. Id entertain swapping Wright for Cam to spell Brunson some but kolek is not ready. The risk isn't worth the reward with him at this point.

[knicks94]

He has no business playing in this series, none. The series is going to be too intense for a rookie to get any time in.

Like I alluded to previously, I think it would be absurd to give him any important minutes in this series. Having him play in garbage time or for 1 or 2 minutes wouldn't be a disaster of a decision.

I'd play Wright in garbage time, in a playoff series you don't want to give the opponents anything, not even in garbage time. No rays of sunshine where they can go back and look at the tape later and see something they liked that was working because rookies were on the floor.

I get what you're saying, but you wouldn't even play him with less than a few minutes in the game and a 20 pt lead? I mean the Knicks used Kolek in garbage time in games 5 and 6 against Boston and they still won the series.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Like I alluded to previously, I think it would be absurd to give him any important minutes in this series. Having him play in garbage time or for 1 or 2 minutes wouldn't be a disaster of a decision.

I'd play Wright in garbage time, in a playoff series you don't want to give the opponents anything, not even in garbage time. No rays of sunshine where they can go back and look at the tape later and see something they liked that was working because rookies were on the floor.

I get what you're saying, but you wouldn't even play him with less than a few minutes in the game and a 20 pt lead? I mean the Knicks used Kolek in garbage time in games 5 and 6 against Boston and they still won the series.

If we're up 30 on the Pacers with 4 minutes to go in a clincher? I mean, I guess, but him playing 2 minutes in 2 blowouts at this point in the season really does nothing for his development. There's no developmental work to be done with him right now, he gains nothing from playing, and loses nothing right now, he's in limbo.

Worry about his minutes next year.

[Guano]

I'd play Wright in garbage time, in a playoff series you don't want to give the opponents anything, not even in garbage time. No rays of sunshine where they can go back and look at the tape later and see something they liked that was working because rookies were on the floor.

I get what you're saying, but you wouldn't even play him with less than a few minutes in the game and a 20 pt lead? I mean the Knicks used Kolek in garbage time in games 5 and 6 against Boston and they still won the series.

If we're up 30 on the Pacers with 4 minutes to go in a clincher? I mean, I guess, but him playing 2 minutes in 2 blowouts at this point in the season really does nothing for his development. There's no developmental work to be done with him right now, he gains nothing from playing, and loses nothing right now, he's in limbo.

Worry about his minutes next year.

Yeah, I dont get the rotations thing or bench sht right now. Thibs has been great outside of those bullcht cam Payne mins to start the 4th he was doing. But cam has been so horrendous that he has scrapped those.

Oh and he waited way too long to bring sub in mitch in the 3rd of game 5 against the Cs.

But complaing about shamet, precious, or kolek mins at this point doesnt make any sense.

[Guano]

All this kolek talk is a false flag to distract from hali being an overrated front running bum and I won't stand for it!

[NoDopeOnSundays]

I get what you're saying, but you wouldn't even play him with less than a few minutes in the game and a 20 pt lead? I mean the Knicks used Kolek in garbage time in games 5 and 6 against Boston and they still won the series.

If we're up 30 on the Pacers with 4 minutes to go in a clincher? I mean, I guess, but him playing 2 minutes in 2 blowouts at this point in the season really does nothing for his development. There's no developmental work to be done with him right now, he gains nothing from playing, and loses nothing right now, he's in limbo.

Worry about his minutes next year.

Yeah, I dont get the rotations thing or bench sht right now. Thibs has been great outside of those bullcht cam Payne mins to start the 4th he was doing. But cam has been so horrendous that he has scrapped those.

Oh and he waited way too long to bring sub in mitch in the 3rd of game 5 against the Cs.

But complaing about shamet, precious, or kolek mins at this point doesnt make any sense.

I agree in principle, but 3pac is shooting 100% in his playoff career, with all his field goals coming against the defending champs

[Guano]

If we're up 30 on the Pacers with 4 minutes to go in a clincher? I mean, I guess, but him playing 2 minutes in 2 blowouts at this point in the season really does nothing for his development. There's no developmental work to be done with him right now, he gains nothing from playing, and loses nothing right now, he's in limbo.

Worry about his minutes next year.

Yeah, I dont get the rotations thing or bench sht right now. Thibs has been great outside of those bullcht cam Payne mins to start the 4th he was doing. But cam has been so horrendous that he has scrapped those.

Oh and he waited way too long to bring sub in mitch in the 3rd of game 5 against the Cs.

But complaing about shamet, precious, or kolek mins at this point doesnt make any sense.

I agree in principle, but 3pac is shooting 100% in his playoff career, with all his field goals coming against the defending champs

SAY MORE!

If any rookie DESERVES playoff mins its THE PRODIGY. Cant argue against the facts you stated.

Only thing i can come up with is thibs wants to get this one with Brunson as the best player before 3Pac takes over the league.

[Deeeez Knicks]

McConnell has been such a pest. I dunno, he had everyone’s number last year. We might need to see if Cam can give us a few good minutes to match his annoyingness if needed.

[Chanel Bomber]

Kolek?

There's nothing to gain from playing Kolek in this series.

Development doesn't happen by throwing a second-round pick rookie to the wolves. There's also nothing to gain from hurting his confidence if things go south for him, as they most likely would.

This is grown man time.

[Chanel Bomber]

All this kolek talk is a false flag to distract from hali being an overrated front running bum and I won't stand for it!

It's funny because if you were a basketball player you'd definitely be Hali.

Smart, solid yet fundamentally unserious, simultaneously provacative and non-confrontational.

[Chanel Bomber]

Halibun0

[Guano]

All this kolek talk is a false flag to distract from hali being an overrated front running bum and I won't stand for it!

It's funny because if you were a basketball player you'd definitely be Hali.

Smart, solid yet fundamentally unserious, simultaneously provacative and non-confrontational.

Watch on YouTube

[Guano]

Halibun0

Ive never reported someone until today.

Im being ASSAULTED!

Watch on YouTube

[NoDopeOnSundays]

McConnell has been such a pest. I dunno, he had everyone’s number last year. We might need to see if Cam can give us a few good minutes to match his annoyingness if needed.

In recent years they've been able to hide him on defense, we have the personnel to make that a lot more difficult. They've been worse with him on the floor so far through the playoffs, we have to target him anytime he's on the court.

[sol537]

We also have to go under any screens they set for TJ… last year we kept going over for some crazy reason.