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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap 

Post#381 » by joesha1698 » Sun May 18, 2025 4:31 pm

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ACMFFL wrote:Problem with Coby White is that you're essentially trading for a rental who is looking for a huge raise in FA.


So White seems to be on the same boat as Reaves, PJ and Gaff. All looking for a raise. I think Dallas needs to trim salary than add.


That's why i keep repeating myself over and over again. People love to make trades without even considering salary cap. Mavs upcoming extensions are AD/Kyrie/Lively/PJ/Gafford... then you have to add new salary for Flagg which is also in the range of 11M. And you're quickly massively over 2nd apron.

Whatever Mavs do, it is very important to bring back as little salary as they can for Gafford, therefore i always said extra draft capital would be better. Landing a 1st round pick for him would be ideal because you can do whatever you want with it.

But if they do take back bigger contracts, it would mean that extra players would have to go, which Nico hinted that won't be the case. They are "happy" with the roster as it is.


Good points. Nico definitely has his work cut out for him. Overall, I think Gafford and PJ were great pickups when you consider cap room / staying under that second apron and all that goes into it. I actually think we have a lot of good pieces we could potentially move to clear up some space and get some great draft compensation / fill in players. I think we should focus on defining our rotation more. Obviously, Nico and the team will have to get creative in dealing with the salary cap, staying under aprons, getting our guy, so to speak.

I would probably offer PJ a 3 year extension with a 5 million dollar pay raise. 3 years at 60 million. I would even go a little higher than 20 million. Maybe 23.

C:Lively/ Jones - Centers
PF:A. Davis / PJ Washington (become 6th man when Flagg becomes a starter or maybe Flagg starts?)
SF:PJ Washington/Flagg
SG: Klay / Christie
PG: Kyrie / Free agent or via trade add 2nd guy/ Brandon Williams (3rd guy)


This makes Gafford the odd guy out because we have Lively and wing players like PJ are so important in today's NBA. I would probably move on from Martin, Naji, and Hardy - just not enough playing time for them and salary sheds. I would focus on adding that big guard that can play point. I would add a trusted backup veteran center once we move Gafford. We have a solid 10 man rotation now. I would add another knock down situational shooter and veteran voice.

C: Lively
PF: AD
SF: Washington
SG:Klay
PG: Kyrie

Bench:

PG - Big guard via FA/Trade / Chris Paul

Note: A part of me wonders how much Chris Paul could help us here? His veteran leadership even at 40 would be awesome. AD and Kyrie are great but they could use some help in the leadership department...I think we should still add a BIG PG but I wouldn't mind Chris Paul on this team.

SG: Christie / Brandon Williams

SF: Flagg/ Prosper (Flagg might become starter and PJ may end up 6th man at some point / coaching decision/ not sure) / Knock down shooter*

PF: Flagg / Prosper

C: Veteran Backup who wont play much - when Lively out of games, we will go small and play PJ/Flagg as much as possible.


* I would add one more knock down situational shooter to complete the 13 active man roster.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap 

Post#382 » by Mr B » Sun May 18, 2025 4:32 pm

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arkuo wrote:I think Dallas has to invest in a Coby White. He will be here long after Kyrie and AD have retired and will be there to be Flagg and Lively's point guard for the foreseeable future. Two timelines to take care of.

I don’t know if Chicago would be interested in Gafford or if Gafford would even be open to signing and extension with them. It seems to me though that a 3 team deal where Chicago gets picks from whoever does want Gafford and the Mavs get Coby White.


Projected new salary in UFA market for Coby White is around 30M per year.

Yea that might be too much for the Mavs.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap 

Post#383 » by Mr B » Sun May 18, 2025 4:35 pm

ACMFFL wrote:Problem with Coby White is that you're essentially trading for a rental who is looking for a huge raise in FA.

Considering where the Mavs are with the cap that pretty much applies to anyone that isn’t already on a long term contract. It’s going to be interesting to see what they do to avoid cap penalties.

And as much as we all know they NEED a PG I’d rather them make no move than a bad move. Worst case scenario they tread water with their current cast of PG’s until the trade deadline when they might have more options.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap 

Post#384 » by joesha1698 » Sun May 18, 2025 4:44 pm

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ACMFFL wrote:Problem with Coby White is that you're essentially trading for a rental who is looking for a huge raise in FA.

Considering where the Mavs are with the cap that pretty much applies to anyone that isn’t already on a long term contract. It’s going to be interesting to see what they do to avoid cap penalties.

And as much as we all know they NEED a PG I’d rather them make no move than a bad move. Worst case scenario they tread water with their current cast of PG’s until the trade deadline when they might have more options.


I think we need a big guard aka Lonzo Ball type...or a slight downgrade from Ball. I also want us to sign Chris Paul. Veteran leadership goes a long way. He would help this team. He's already in Texas. If SA doesn't bring him back, we should go after him.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap 

Post#385 » by Mr B » Sun May 18, 2025 4:48 pm

arkuo wrote:Hard decision. But do you trade Kyrie for Tyrese Maxey? Who says no?

I'd give a lot to be able to pair Flagg and Cade Cunningham. But that price will be steep. Think Detroit says no to ALL offers.

I would but Nico wouldn’t. I will say if they are going to gut their bench for a PG these are the types of PG’s they should be getting back (Maxey or Cade).
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap 

Post#386 » by Mr B » Sun May 18, 2025 4:50 pm

Heezzi wrote:I don't know why yall think Gafford is getting traded when the Mavs have two injury prone big men. PJ will go before Gafford.

His contract
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Post#387 » by Mavrelous » Sun May 18, 2025 4:56 pm

arkuo wrote:Hard decision. But do you trade Kyrie for Tyrese Maxey? Who says no?

I'd give a lot to be able to pair Flagg and Cade Cunningham. But that price will be steep. Think Detroit says no to ALL offers.

Kyrie, + 2 1sts and Sixers will think about, but probabely say no.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap 

Post#388 » by Mr B » Sun May 18, 2025 4:56 pm

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Archx wrote:
arkuo wrote:
So White seems to be on the same boat as Reaves, PJ and Gaff. All looking for a raise. I think Dallas needs to trim salary than add.


That's why i keep repeating myself over and over again. People love to make trades without even considering salary cap. Mavs upcoming extensions are AD/Kyrie/Lively/PJ/Gafford... then you have to add new salary for Flagg which is also in the range of 11M. And you're quickly massively over 2nd apron.

Whatever Mavs do, it is very important to bring back as little salary as they can for Gafford, therefore i always said extra draft capital would be better. Landing a 1st round pick for him would be ideal because you can do whatever you want with it.

But if they do take back bigger contracts, it would mean that extra players would have to go, which Nico hinted that won't be the case. They are "happy" with the roster as it is.


Good points. Nico definitely has his work cut out for him. Overall, I think Gafford and PJ were great pickups when you consider cap room / staying under that second apron and all that goes into it. I actually think we have a lot of good pieces we could potentially move to clear up some space and get some great draft compensation / fill in players. I think we should focus on defining our rotation more. Obviously, Nico and the team will have to get creative in dealing with the salary cap, staying under aprons, getting our guy, so to speak.

I would probably offer PJ a 3 year extension with a 5 million dollar pay raise. 3 years at 60 million. I would even go a little higher than 20 million. Maybe 23.

C:Lively/ Jones - Centers
PF:A. Davis / PJ Washington (become 6th man when Flagg becomes a starter or maybe Flagg starts?)
SF:PJ Washington/Flagg
SG: Klay / Christie
PG: Kyrie / Free agent or via trade add 2nd guy/ Brandon Williams (3rd guy)


This makes Gafford the odd guy out because we have Lively and wing players like PJ are so important in today's NBA. I would probably move on from Martin, Naji, and Hardy - just not enough playing time for them and salary sheds. I would focus on adding that big guard that can play point. I would add a trusted backup veteran center once we move Gafford. We have a solid 10 man rotation now. I would add another knock down situational shooter and veteran voice.

C: Lively
PF: AD
SF: Washington
SG:Klay
PG: Kyrie

Bench:

PG - Big guard via FA/Trade / Chris Paul

Note: A part of me wonders how much Chris Paul could help us here? His veteran leadership even at 40 would be awesome. AD and Kyrie are great but they could use some help in the leadership department...I think we should still add a BIG PG but I wouldn't mind Chris Paul on this team.

SG: Christie / Brandon Williams

SF: Flagg/ Prosper (Flagg might become starter and PJ may end up 6th man at some point / coaching decision/ not sure) / Knock down shooter*

PF: Flagg / Prosper

C: Veteran Backup who wont play much - when Lively out of games, we will go small and play PJ/Flagg as much as possible.


* I would add one more knock down situational shooter to complete the 13 active man roster.

Personally I do not want to get rid of Naji.
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Post#389 » by joesha1698 » Sun May 18, 2025 5:03 pm

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joesha1698 wrote:
Archx wrote:
That's why i keep repeating myself over and over again. People love to make trades without even considering salary cap. Mavs upcoming extensions are AD/Kyrie/Lively/PJ/Gafford... then you have to add new salary for Flagg which is also in the range of 11M. And you're quickly massively over 2nd apron.

Whatever Mavs do, it is very important to bring back as little salary as they can for Gafford, therefore i always said extra draft capital would be better. Landing a 1st round pick for him would be ideal because you can do whatever you want with it.

But if they do take back bigger contracts, it would mean that extra players would have to go, which Nico hinted that won't be the case. They are "happy" with the roster as it is.


Good points. Nico definitely has his work cut out for him. Overall, I think Gafford and PJ were great pickups when you consider cap room / staying under that second apron and all that goes into it. I actually think we have a lot of good pieces we could potentially move to clear up some space and get some great draft compensation / fill in players. I think we should focus on defining our rotation more. Obviously, Nico and the team will have to get creative in dealing with the salary cap, staying under aprons, getting our guy, so to speak.

I would probably offer PJ a 3 year extension with a 5 million dollar pay raise. 3 years at 60 million. I would even go a little higher than 20 million. Maybe 23.

C:Lively/ Jones - Centers
PF:A. Davis / PJ Washington (become 6th man when Flagg becomes a starter or maybe Flagg starts?)
SF:PJ Washington/Flagg
SG: Klay / Christie
PG: Kyrie / Free agent or via trade add 2nd guy/ Brandon Williams (3rd guy)


This makes Gafford the odd guy out because we have Lively and wing players like PJ are so important in today's NBA. I would probably move on from Martin, Naji, and Hardy - just not enough playing time for them and salary sheds. I would focus on adding that big guard that can play point. I would add a trusted backup veteran center once we move Gafford. We have a solid 10 man rotation now. I would add another knock down situational shooter and veteran voice.

C: Lively
PF: AD
SF: Washington
SG:Klay
PG: Kyrie

Bench:

PG - Big guard via FA/Trade / Chris Paul

Note: A part of me wonders how much Chris Paul could help us here? His veteran leadership even at 40 would be awesome. AD and Kyrie are great but they could use some help in the leadership department...I think we should still add a BIG PG but I wouldn't mind Chris Paul on this team.

SG: Christie / Brandon Williams

SF: Flagg/ Prosper (Flagg might become starter and PJ may end up 6th man at some point / coaching decision/ not sure) / Knock down shooter*

PF: Flagg / Prosper

C: Veteran Backup who wont play much - when Lively out of games, we will go small and play PJ/Flagg as much as possible.


* I would add one more knock down situational shooter to complete the 13 active man roster.

Personally I do not want to get rid of Naji.


I like Naji too but if we re-sign PJ and bring in Flagg, we kinda have to move on, imo. Plus, we need to shed salary. Naji is also inconsistent from the 3 point line - which is the cherry on the top for me.
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Post#390 » by arkuo » Sun May 18, 2025 6:26 pm

If Miami is looking to blow it up, does Tyler Herro interest anyone?

I know he's not a PG but he does have a bit of playmaking. He's 6'5 means he can play alongside Kyrie.
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Post#391 » by arkuo » Sun May 18, 2025 7:17 pm

Reports are Dallas loses assistant coach Sean Sweeney to Phoenix. Is he any good?
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Post#392 » by Mavrelous » Sun May 18, 2025 7:47 pm

arkuo wrote:Reports are Dallas loses assistant coach Sean Sweeney to Phoenix. Is he any good?

They say he's the mastermind behind the defense, we'll see if this is true
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Post#393 » by Mr B » Sun May 18, 2025 8:21 pm

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Mr B wrote:
joesha1698 wrote:
Good points. Nico definitely has his work cut out for him. Overall, I think Gafford and PJ were great pickups when you consider cap room / staying under that second apron and all that goes into it. I actually think we have a lot of good pieces we could potentially move to clear up some space and get some great draft compensation / fill in players. I think we should focus on defining our rotation more. Obviously, Nico and the team will have to get creative in dealing with the salary cap, staying under aprons, getting our guy, so to speak.

I would probably offer PJ a 3 year extension with a 5 million dollar pay raise. 3 years at 60 million. I would even go a little higher than 20 million. Maybe 23.

C:Lively/ Jones - Centers
PF:A. Davis / PJ Washington (become 6th man when Flagg becomes a starter or maybe Flagg starts?)
SF:PJ Washington/Flagg
SG: Klay / Christie
PG: Kyrie / Free agent or via trade add 2nd guy/ Brandon Williams (3rd guy)


This makes Gafford the odd guy out because we have Lively and wing players like PJ are so important in today's NBA. I would probably move on from Martin, Naji, and Hardy - just not enough playing time for them and salary sheds. I would focus on adding that big guard that can play point. I would add a trusted backup veteran center once we move Gafford. We have a solid 10 man rotation now. I would add another knock down situational shooter and veteran voice.

C: Lively
PF: AD
SF: Washington
SG:Klay
PG: Kyrie

Bench:

PG - Big guard via FA/Trade / Chris Paul

Note: A part of me wonders how much Chris Paul could help us here? His veteran leadership even at 40 would be awesome. AD and Kyrie are great but they could use some help in the leadership department...I think we should still add a BIG PG but I wouldn't mind Chris Paul on this team.

SG: Christie / Brandon Williams

SF: Flagg/ Prosper (Flagg might become starter and PJ may end up 6th man at some point / coaching decision/ not sure) / Knock down shooter*

PF: Flagg / Prosper

C: Veteran Backup who wont play much - when Lively out of games, we will go small and play PJ/Flagg as much as possible.


* I would add one more knock down situational shooter to complete the 13 active man roster.

Personally I do not want to get rid of Naji.


I like Naji too but if we re-sign PJ and bring in Flagg, we kinda have to move on, imo. Plus, we need to shed salary. Naji is also inconsistent from the 3 point line - which is the cherry on the top for me.

That’s what I’m struggling with at the moment. I know we need a PG and I know you have to give something to get something back, AND you know they need to cut salary in order to make any of that happen. I really like the players we have (like Naji) but just struggling with who to trade. Honestly I don’t even want to trade Gafford but I know it’s necessary.
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Post#394 » by Mr B » Sun May 18, 2025 8:24 pm

arkuo wrote:If Miami is looking to blow it up, does Tyler Herro interest anyone?

I know he's not a PG but he does have a bit of playmaking. He's 6'5 means he can play alongside Kyrie.

According to Sporttrac Herro is scheduled to make $31M this coming season and $33M next season. I think Herro would fit but not really with that contract.
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Post#395 » by Mr B » Sun May 18, 2025 8:26 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
arkuo wrote:Reports are Dallas loses assistant coach Sean Sweeney to Phoenix. Is he any good?

They say he's the mastermind behind the defense, we'll see if this is true

I’m more concerned with who the new training staff will be. They need to bring in the best training staff out there. They are the ones that are going to keep AD, Lively, and Kyrie on the court.
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Post#396 » by 41Dirk41 » Sun May 18, 2025 10:35 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
arkuo wrote:Reports are Dallas loses assistant coach Sean Sweeney to Phoenix. Is he any good?

They say he's the mastermind behind the defense, we'll see if this is true


I thought it was kidd :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post#397 » by Archx » Sun May 18, 2025 11:32 pm

Right now we would be watching Mavs vs OKC in WCF... F*** Nico.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap 

Post#398 » by Teffer10 » Sun May 18, 2025 11:44 pm

Mr B wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:
arkuo wrote:Reports are Dallas loses assistant coach Sean Sweeney to Phoenix. Is he any good?

They say he's the mastermind behind the defense, we'll see if this is true

I’m more concerned with who the new training staff will be. They need to bring in the best training staff out there. They are the ones that are going to keep AD, Lively, and Kyrie on the court.

I'm more concerned about who the current GM is. They need to bring in the best GM out there. He is the one who is going to keep CF and Lively in the city.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap 

Post#399 » by Mr B » Mon May 19, 2025 1:21 am

Russell Westbrook?
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Post#400 » by Maverick41 » Mon May 19, 2025 3:58 am

Mr B wrote:Russell Westbrook?

Please no. He's an atrocious fit here and would hinder Flagg's development.

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