NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Nuntius wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Robinson is going to be a massive issue on the glass, just to put things in perspective, in the playoffs he has more offensive rebounds than Allen and Mobley combined, while playing 18.5mpg.
This is going to be a very interesting back and forth, to be honest. The Knicks have an immense rebounding advantage, that's a given. But will they crash the boards as hard as they have so far knowing that if the board bounces our way, we're immediately running and forcing cross-matches on the other end?
Both teams can be burned here. The Knicks can be burned by our transition offense if they committ too much on the offensive glass and we can be burned by the Knicks' offensive rebounding prowess if we committ too much on leaking out.
Crashing the boards is just what Robinson does, he can do it on his own while everyone gets back.
No doubt about that, he can definitely do it. But what if the rebound is outside of his range? What if it's a long rebound off of a missed 3, for example?
NoDopeOnSundays wrote: The Pistons played at a similar pace as you all, obviously they're not as good offensively, but it didn't stop Robinson from rebounding on them, and they have better individual rebounders that should have prevented that from happening, he finished that series with 22 offensive boards. It's a lot more demoralizing to play the whole shot clock, only to have him or Hart come in and get another chance.
We had Obi, we know he leaks out, if he's on the floor when Robinson is out there, he better be helping Bryant on the glass. The Cavs were a big team with a soft frontcourt, and small wing players, we're a team that starts small that can go big while maintaining spacing and shooting.
Sure but it's not just about the pace. It's about the passing and the offensive identity as well. The Pacers are relentless both at creating cross-matches in transition and semi-transition and hunting down mismatches whether that's on the open court or the half court.
I get that Detroit also liked to push the pace and that Boston played a 5-out offense but the way the Pacers attack is unlike either of these teams.
And here are some interesting stats to showcase this difference.
During the RS:
https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/passing?SeasonType=Regular%20Season&dir=D&sort=PASSES_MADEDuring the playoffs:
https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/passing?SeasonType=Playoffs&dir=D&sort=PASSES_MADEThe above tables show how many passes a team completes per game. As you can see, both throughout the RS and the playoffs, there were two teams that were way ahead everyone else. The Indiana Pacers and the Golden State Warriors. These were the two teams that passed the ball around the most. Detroit and Boston, on the other hand, were both in the bottom 10 in passes made during the RS. And in the playoffs, they were both at the very bottom of the list. In the playoffs, the Pacers are averaging 337.1 passes per game. Boston averaged 238.2 passes per game and Detroit averaged 239.8 passes per game. So, as you can see, that's a pretty humongous difference of nearly 100 passes.
This passing volume (along with our low turnover numbers) is what makes our offensive approach different than the two teams you've faced so far. You won't really see us trying to isolate against your guys, like Boston did.
I just found this place recently looking for something better for online sports discussion than the hellhole that is reddit. And this thread is engaging.... I will say to Knicks fans, if my comments are disrespectful/irrelevant/trollish, then I do sincerely apologize.
