Would you trade Franz for Giannis?

[AdamTheGreek]

SA will make Milwaukee an offer they can't refuse

I don’t think Gianni cares about going to San Antonio.

Also, people want to crown Wembanyama and I don’t see that dude ever staying healthy.

Paolo-Franz-Gianni is a stronger team than Fox/Castle-Wemby-Gianni.

And again, Gianni wants to win more titles. It’s an easier path in the East.

[AdamTheGreek]

Let’s say for conversation sake we trade for Giannis. We kept Franz. I don’t think we even get a hello from them without Franz involved but let’s just say…

We’d run Franz/Giannis/Paolo at 2,3,4. Who’s the PG?

I have a 4-way trade that gets us Simons.

Any trade involving Gianni is going to be a 3 or 4-way for any team acquiring him because the Bucks want to get rid of Lillard’s deal, too.

If we get Gianni, CoJo could be ‘point’ and we’d be fine because Gianni, Paolo, and Franz would be running pick-and-rolls all day with the uninvolved guy leaking to the rim and the other two guys on the floor open for 3s.
Weltman is about positionless basketball, this is his dream coming true.

So you’d run CoJo at point and Simons off the bench or Simons at point and CoJo off the bench?

Goga at the 5?

I was semi-joking about the CoJo part.
Simons would start. CoJo is good veteran depth.
Goga could be the five. Mo comes off the bench.
Or you can separately sign and trade for Brook Lopez and send out Goga.
If you have a Gianni-Franz-Paolo trio, you don’t need a great point guard out there.
You just need a shooter and some competent perimeter defending.

[89Magicfan]

I have a 4-way trade that gets us Simons.

Any trade involving Gianni is going to be a 3 or 4-way for any team acquiring him because the Bucks want to get rid of Lillard’s deal, too.

If we get Gianni, CoJo could be ‘point’ and we’d be fine because Gianni, Paolo, and Franz would be running pick-and-rolls all day with the uninvolved guy leaking to the rim and the other two guys on the floor open for 3s.
Weltman is about positionless basketball, this is his dream coming true.

So you’d run CoJo at point and Simons off the bench or Simons at point and CoJo off the bench?

Goga at the 5?

I was semi-joking about the CoJo part.
Simons would start. CoJo is good veteran depth.
Goga could be the five. Mo comes off the bench.
Or you can separately sign and trade for Brook Lopez and send out Goga.
If you have a Gianni-Franz-Paolo trio, you don’t need a great point guard out there.
You just need a shooter and some competent perimeter defending.

Wonder what he depth chart would like.

Can that trio work in unison?


I originally voted no because I simply don’t believe they accept a deal unless Franz is involved. However if Gianni’s is adamant about coming here could be possible.

[MasterGMer]

So you’d run CoJo at point and Simons off the bench or Simons at point and CoJo off the bench?

Goga at the 5?

I was semi-joking about the CoJo part.
Simons would start. CoJo is good veteran depth.
Goga could be the five. Mo comes off the bench.
Or you can separately sign and trade for Brook Lopez and send out Goga.
If you have a Gianni-Franz-Paolo trio, you don’t need a great point guard out there.
You just need a shooter and some competent perimeter defending.

Wonder what he depth chart would like.

Can that trio work in unison?


I originally voted no because I simply don’t believe they accept a deal unless Franz is involved. However if Gianni’s is adamant about coming here could be possible.

I don't even know the trio would work tbh. We need someone to stretch the floor and 3pt is not going to be there.

[Skybox]

I think Franz will be a shooter as soon as next year. If we somehow got Giannis without moving Franz & Paolo, shooters would fall out of the trees to join in...I like Franz as the biggest guard in the league - at least for minutes. That's mostly how he plays, he's just gigantic...if teams pressed him, we'd have to adjust but, otherwise, what can't he do? I don't see Giannis really playing C, but if he and Paolo are the forwards and they make a mutual effort to rebound and bang a bit, you could even put un-swole Isaac as a roaming rim-protector pseudo Center...maybe you get the Lopez brothers to Disney on vet mins if Giannis asks them to come finish their careers here. That'd be more than enough.

Can't believe we even have a prayer - but it does make some sense, imo.

[MasterGMer]

I think Franz will be a shooter as soon as next year. If we somehow got Giannis without moving Franz & Paolo, shooters would fall out of the trees to join in...I like Franz as the biggest guard in the league - at least for minutes. That's mostly how he plays, he's just gigantic...if teams pressed him, we'd have to adjust but, otherwise, what can't he do? I don't see Giannis really playing C, but if he and Paolo are the forwards and they make a mutual effort to rebound and bang a bit, you could even put un-swole Isaac as a roaming rim-protector pseudo Center...maybe you get the Lopez brothers to Disney on vet mins if Giannis asks them to come finish their careers here. That'd be more than enough.

Can't believe we even have a prayer - but it does make some sense, imo.

If we have Franz- Giannis - Paolo, does that mean Jalen Suggs is on the trade line? To me, it is all about fit.

But before we make that decision to go after Giannis, he at least wants to be here from the beginning because he is going to determine where he wants to go. (Super Star benefit)

I think in that way, AB and Jett or even JI could be on the trade front for Giannis.

Is it doable? Yes, but we still need supporting cast around the stars. With the max of Franz and Giannis, it would be hard. But it is definitely doable. However, to make that kind of trade, it is about the fit then who we gonna send out

[MasterGMer]

Let me elaborate on my previous post:

It is about two things to me for a potential Giannis trade: Cost and fit

What would it cost for the Orlando Magic? 3 or 4 First round picks plus the price of Franz or Jalen Suggs and AB + JI?

It is, of course, going to be expensive. Is it doable? Yes, but star chasing alone won't make you a contender. Look at Phoenix and even Cleveland. Suns have 3 super stars but it is about the supporting cast to show up during playoffs for you to win it all. Look at Cleveland, they have the Top 4, all star caliber players and they still lost to Indiana in the playoff.

That is why it is about the fit also. Why Indiana went to the Eastern Conference Finals in back to back years. Yes, they are underrated. But it is their Head Coach and their TEAM who did it. They are a great fit together playing an up tempo offense with the lead guard in Tyrese Haliburton. It is the fit.

If we exhaust all our assets in star chasing, do we still have the supporting cast plus the fit to do it consistently in winning a championship. I don't know tbh.

If somehow we can figure that out with out costing us that much, heck yeah. But I have my doubt

But if somehow Giannis is a Magic, that is my happiest day in my life!!

[JoshuaPotter]

Let me elaborate on my previous post:

It is about two things to me for a potential Giannis trade: Cost and fit

What would it cost for the Orlando Magic? 3 or 4 First round picks plus the price of Franz or Jalen Suggs and AB + JI?

It is, of course, going to be expensive. Is it doable? Yes, but star chasing alone won't make you a contender. Look at Phoenix and even Cleveland. Suns have 3 super stars but it is about the supporting cast to show up during playoffs for you to win it all. Look at Cleveland, they have the Top 4, all star caliber players and they still lost to Indiana in the playoff.

That is why it is about the fit also. Why Indiana went to the Eastern Conference Finals in back to back years. Yes, they are underrated. But it is their Head Coach and their TEAM who did it. They are a great fit together playing an up tempo offense with the lead guard in Tyrese Haliburton. It is the fit.

If we exhaust all our assets in star chasing, do we still have the supporting cast plus the fit to do it consistently in winning a championship. I don't know tbh.

If somehow we can figure that out with out costing us that much, heck yeah. But I have my doubt

But if somehow Giannis is a Magic, that is my happiest day in my life!!

Maybe we should question Giannis work ethic, you know his weight and all that. During trade negotiations.

[89Magicfan]

Let me elaborate on my previous post:

It is about two things to me for a potential Giannis trade: Cost and fit

What would it cost for the Orlando Magic? 3 or 4 First round picks plus the price of Franz or Jalen Suggs and AB + JI?

It is, of course, going to be expensive. Is it doable? Yes, but star chasing alone won't make you a contender. Look at Phoenix and even Cleveland. Suns have 3 super stars but it is about the supporting cast to show up during playoffs for you to win it all. Look at Cleveland, they have the Top 4, all star caliber players and they still lost to Indiana in the playoff.

That is why it is about the fit also. Why Indiana went to the Eastern Conference Finals in back to back years. Yes, they are underrated. But it is their Head Coach and their TEAM who did it. They are a great fit together playing an up tempo offense with the lead guard in Tyrese Haliburton. It is the fit.

If we exhaust all our assets in star chasing, do we still have the supporting cast plus the fit to do it consistently in winning a championship. I don't know tbh.

If somehow we can figure that out with out costing us that much, heck yeah. But I have my doubt

But if somehow Giannis is a Magic, that is my happiest day in my life!!

This is a good point and why I originally said no.

Having talent is essential but we have seen that having depth is as well.