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Re: GT: ECF:@Knicks vs Pacers: Wed: 5/21/25: TNT; 8pm 

Post#161 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Mon May 19, 2025 5:05 pm

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dakomish23 wrote:Haliburton gets all the media worship, but Siakam has been good this post season. And he's one of the few ppl who have the skill, strength and athleticism to go at OG. But OG is arguably the best non big defender in the NBA & is the perfect fit for Brunson at floor general. That matchup is going to be really good

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54.7% on 13.9 FGA
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He's been good, but if you look at their playoff scoring, they're doing it by committee because of who they have played. If Siakam or Nembhard have a tough series they will struggle to score, all that stuff they do is cute, until they meet someone that can stop even 20% of it, then it turns into can your guy get a bucket against a set defense. I don't think they can, and like you said, Siakam having OG on him takes away a lot of the stuff they do if we're switching.



My concern is KAT on Turner in that sense. I would much rather have KAT on Siakam and make Siakam a jump shooter because Siakam can't take KAT into the post with his size. Then KAT trying to hedge and recover or playing drop against the pacers.

I don't think Thibs is going to switch the Haliburton screen and have KAT guard him.




I would rather put KAT on him as well, but I doubt that will happen. We cannot go back to playing drop, and KAT held up well against the Celtics on switches, we always have to remember Haliburton can and will stop shooting at times. Just do what we did against the Celtics, the example of what not to do is game 5 :lol:


Haliburton is about the same level of scorer as White if we're being real, yeah he'll shoot deep threes, and he's a much better passer, but we can't overreact to his shooting.
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Re: GT: ECF:@Knicks vs Pacers: Wed: 5/21/25: TNT; 8pm 

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Post#167 » by dakomish23 » Mon May 19, 2025 5:28 pm

KAT's numbers vs IND this year:

30.3 PPG 12.0 RPG 1.7 APG 1.3 SPG 1.0 BPG
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Post#168 » by Guano » Mon May 19, 2025 5:28 pm

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I dont get it. We have the better players.

Brunson > hali
Kat > turner
Og > pascal

They have better bench depth... they have no one off their bench as impactful as mitch.

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Re: GT: ECF:@Knicks vs Pacers: Wed: 5/21/25: TNT; 8pm 

Post#170 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Mon May 19, 2025 5:32 pm

dakomish23 wrote:KAT's numbers vs IND this year:

30.3 PPG 12.0 RPG 1.7 APG 1.3 SPG 1.0 BPG
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This is the Josh series IMO, he's averaging 22/11 againt them this season. He's been driving on Haliburton with ease, and if they decide to put Turner on Josh I would expect Mikal to light Hali up.

Whoever Hali is guarding is going to have a good series.
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Post#171 » by Guano » Mon May 19, 2025 5:35 pm

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shamet & precious ?...........no

Yeah this is silly.

It's the playoffs.

A 7-man rotation should be fine so long as #6 and #7 play 20+ minutes. Perhaps Cam can give us 5 in the first half and that brings all the starters to roughly 38 minutes per game.

Brunson's ability to control tempo will be key. So will our offensive rebounding. If we force them to dedicate bodies to the defensive glass, this will break their tempo. It'll be an interesting point of tension - should we crash the offensive glass, or be more conservative and run back on defense to put numbers behind the ball.


Yeah, im confident that mitch will be mitch. If he stays healthy he dominates.

It would make this series a lot easier if deuce plays like he did against the Cs. Need him to give us quality mins. Cant have him getting his @ss busted by McConnell like last year.
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Re: GT: ECF:@Knicks vs Pacers: Wed: 5/21/25: TNT; 8pm 

Post#172 » by KnixinSix » Mon May 19, 2025 5:35 pm

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shamet & precious ?...........no


Wright PROVED he can ball in this system over 10-12 games. He was a resounding positive in the lineup. Arguably better than anyone outside of starters and McBride/Robinson. And he has the clear length advantage over McBride


i'm sorry. i **** with delon wright. i really do.

people really saw some alexey shved silly season minutes and think he's better than he is? he's really not who you think he is on offense. he was an innings eater in a pinch down the stretch while we assured playoff readiness.

if we needed to revisit deuce's role for some reason, fair. but right now... we should be happy we don't need to rely on this man as a scorer and facilitator.


When you have KAT Brun Bridges and OG ALL able to pop 20+ you don't need Delon Wright to besome microwave scorer. You need him for all the other high level things he provides, passing lane defense, awareness, steals, length at the 2 next to Brunson and the ocassional 3 ball when open.
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Re: GT: ECF:@Knicks vs Pacers: Wed: 5/21/25: TNT; 8pm 

Post#173 » by Jeff Van Gully » Mon May 19, 2025 5:36 pm

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He's been good, but if you look at their playoff scoring, they're doing it by committee because of who they have played. If Siakam or Nembhard have a tough series they will struggle to score, all that stuff they do is cute, until they meet someone that can stop even 20% of it, then it turns into can your guy get a bucket against a set defense. I don't think they can, and like you said, Siakam having OG on him takes away a lot of the stuff they do if we're switching.



My concern is KAT on Turner in that sense. I would much rather have KAT on Siakam and make Siakam a jump shooter because Siakam can't take KAT into the post with his size. Then KAT trying to hedge and recover or playing drop against the pacers.

I don't think Thibs is going to switch the Haliburton screen and have KAT guard him.




I would rather put KAT on him as well, but I doubt that will happen. We cannot go back to playing drop, and KAT held up well against the Celtics on switches, we always have to remember Haliburton can and will stop shooting at times. Just do what we did against the Celtics, the example of what not to do is game 5 :lol:


Haliburton is about the same level of scorer as White if we're being real, yeah he'll shoot deep threes, and he's a much better passer, but we can't overreact to his shooting.


haliwhite is so disrespectful. i'm here for it though. much better scorer though. can actually create for himself when he needs to. and can't take the playmaking threat out of the picture as to why he's able to score.
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Re: GT: ECF:@Knicks vs Pacers: Wed: 5/21/25: TNT; 8pm 

Post#174 » by mpharris36 » Mon May 19, 2025 5:37 pm

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dakomish23 wrote:KAT's numbers vs IND this year:

30.3 PPG 12.0 RPG 1.7 APG 1.3 SPG 1.0 BPG
56.6% on 17.7 FGA
46.7% on 5.0 3PA
88.9% on 9.0 FTA

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This is the Josh series IMO, he's averaging 22/11 againt them this season. He's been driving on Haliburton with ease, and if they decide to put Turner on Josh I would expect Mikal to light Hali up.

Whoever Hali is guarding is going to have a good series.



The pacers are one of the few teams that never put there wings on KAT. They have basically guarded him with Turner/Bryant ect....I don't know if that will be interesting to see if they switch up with the playoffs. You think they would have to because it eliminates the KAT pick and pop game.
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Re: GT: ECF:@Knicks vs Pacers: Wed: 5/21/25: TNT; 8pm 

Post#175 » by Jeff Van Gully » Mon May 19, 2025 5:39 pm

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Wright PROVED he can ball in this system over 10-12 games. He was a resounding positive in the lineup. Arguably better than anyone outside of starters and McBride/Robinson. And he has the clear length advantage over McBride


i'm sorry. i **** with delon wright. i really do.

people really saw some alexey shved silly season minutes and think he's better than he is? he's really not who you think he is on offense. he was an innings eater in a pinch down the stretch while we assured playoff readiness.

if we needed to revisit deuce's role for some reason, fair. but right now... we should be happy we don't need to rely on this man as a scorer and facilitator.


When you have KAT Brun Bridges and OG ALL able to pop 20+ you don't need Delon Wright to besome microwave scorer. You need him for all the other high level things he provides, passing lane defense, awareness, steals, length at the 2 next to Brunson and the ocassional 3 ball when open.


how many brunson/mikal/deuce minutes do you want to reduce to account for this essential delon wright contribution in the conference finals?
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Post#176 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Mon May 19, 2025 5:43 pm

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dakomish23 wrote:KAT's numbers vs IND this year:

30.3 PPG 12.0 RPG 1.7 APG 1.3 SPG 1.0 BPG
56.6% on 17.7 FGA
46.7% on 5.0 3PA
88.9% on 9.0 FTA

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This is the Josh series IMO, he's averaging 22/11 againt them this season. He's been driving on Haliburton with ease, and if they decide to put Turner on Josh I would expect Mikal to light Hali up.

Whoever Hali is guarding is going to have a good series.



The pacers are one of the few teams that never put there wings on KAT. They have basically guarded him with Turner/Bryant ect....I don't know if that will be interesting to see if they switch up with the playoffs. You think they would have to because it eliminates the KAT pick and pop game.




I think it's because they don't trust Haliburton on defense, they figure Hart is our worst offensive player and can hide him there, but so far this season that has worked against them because Josh just takes him to the rim and rebounds on him. I would expect a big series from Mikal if Hali is guarding him, and Hart will still kill them on the boards because Turner is a joke there, Struss was guarded by Hali and averaged almost 3 ORPG :lol: Hart is snatching and will have a 20 rebound game if they keep Hali on him.

Maybe they'll try it now that it's the playoffs, but we're starting to get better at dealing with it.
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Post#177 » by KnixinSix » Mon May 19, 2025 5:44 pm

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i'm sorry. i **** with delon wright. i really do.

people really saw some alexey shved silly season minutes and think he's better than he is? he's really not who you think he is on offense. he was an innings eater in a pinch down the stretch while we assured playoff readiness.

if we needed to revisit deuce's role for some reason, fair. but right now... we should be happy we don't need to rely on this man as a scorer and facilitator.


When you have KAT Brun Bridges and OG ALL able to pop 20+ you don't need Delon Wright to besome microwave scorer. You need him for all the other high level things he provides, passing lane defense, awareness, steals, length at the 2 next to Brunson and the ocassional 3 ball when open.


how many brunson/mikal/deuce minutes do you want to reduce to account for this essential delon wright contribution in the conference finals?


Instead of overtaxing the starters with 38-40 minutes a game they all can average a little less . Yea Im fine with that.
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Post#178 » by K_ick_God » Mon May 19, 2025 5:44 pm

It didn't look like OG could guard Siakam tbh

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dakomish23 wrote:KAT's numbers vs IND this year:

30.3 PPG 12.0 RPG 1.7 APG 1.3 SPG 1.0 BPG
56.6% on 17.7 FGA
46.7% on 5.0 3PA
88.9% on 9.0 FTA

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This is the Josh series IMO, he's averaging 22/11 againt them this season. He's been driving on Haliburton with ease, and if they decide to put Turner on Josh I would expect Mikal to light Hali up.

Whoever Hali is guarding is going to have a good series.
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