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Post#61 » by Laimbeer » Mon May 19, 2025 3:49 pm

For some reason I thought a player had to play half of the full season like 41 games with a franchise to be eligible for that franchise. The rule is written differently now. Maybe that is something that has changed? Not sure.

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Post#62 » by MadNESS » Mon May 19, 2025 3:52 pm

Laimbeer wrote:For some reason I thought a player had to play half of the full season like 41 games with a franchise to be eligible for that franchise. The rule is written differently now. Maybe that is something that has changed? Not sure.

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I thought so too or I would have taken Butler?
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Post#63 » by MadNESS » Mon May 19, 2025 3:55 pm

So if Butler is somehow available then so is Luka for the Lakers and I’m up and I’m taking Luka then….
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Post#64 » by Snakebites » Mon May 19, 2025 3:57 pm

MadNESS wrote:So if Butler is somehow available then so is Luka for the Lakers and I’m up and I’m taking Luka then….

Luka played more than half of his games for the Mavericks that season.

Butler- who missed a ton of time with the Heat, actually played more games with the Warriors than the Heat.
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Post#65 » by durantbird » Mon May 19, 2025 3:57 pm

MadNESS wrote:So if Butler is somehow available then so is Luka for the Lakers and I’m up and I’m taking Luka then….

Yes Luka is available for Lakers, played there 56% of his games this season
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Post#66 » by Snakebites » Mon May 19, 2025 4:05 pm

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MadNESS wrote:So if Butler is somehow available then so is Luka for the Lakers and I’m up and I’m taking Luka then….

Yes Luka is available for Lakers, played there 56% of his games this season

Oh wow, I really screwed this draft up...

The Butler thing I can spin- past prime player, sorta iffy fit.

Luka? Ouch. Absolutely should have taken him with whatever Sun I could figure out.

Looks like this'll be another glorious round 1 exit for me. :lol:
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Post#67 » by Fadeaway_J » Mon May 19, 2025 4:10 pm

Laimbeer wrote:For some reason I thought a player had to play half of the full season like 41 games with a franchise to be eligible for that franchise. The rule is written differently now. Maybe that is something that has changed? Not sure.

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The rule has always been half of his available games, not half the games in the season.
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Post#68 » by durantbird » Mon May 19, 2025 4:11 pm

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Laimbeer wrote:For some reason I thought a player had to play half of the full season like 41 games with a franchise to be eligible for that franchise. The rule is written differently now. Maybe that is something that has changed? Not sure.

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The rule has always been half of his available games, not half the games in the season.

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Post#69 » by Snakebites » Mon May 19, 2025 4:12 pm

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Laimbeer wrote:For some reason I thought a player had to play half of the full season like 41 games with a franchise to be eligible for that franchise. The rule is written differently now. Maybe that is something that has changed? Not sure.

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The rule has always been half of his available games, not half the games in the season.

Correct. In my case I just didn't check- I recalled how the rule functions. Usually deadline aquisitions aren't available for their new teams- in Luka and Butler's case they are simply because they played so few games with their original teams this season.

Man, I'm really kicking myself. The Butler thing is whatever- I'm not all that high on his 2025 season. Nice value pick but not catastrophic when you already have Lebron. It's the Luka thing that's rough...
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Post#70 » by durantbird » Mon May 19, 2025 4:14 pm

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Laimbeer wrote:For some reason I thought a player had to play half of the full season like 41 games with a franchise to be eligible for that franchise. The rule is written differently now. Maybe that is something that has changed? Not sure.

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The rule has always been half of his available games, not half the games in the season.

Correct. In my case I just didn't check- I recalled how the rule functions. Usually deadline aquisitions aren't available for their new teams- in Luka and Butler's case they are simply because they played so few games with their original teams this season.

Man, I'm really kicking myself. The Butler thing is whatever- I'm not all that high on his 2025 season. Nice value pick but not catastrophic when you already have Lebron. It's the Luka thing that's rough...

It should be noted that I think it's the first time Butler is used as a Warrior in terms of eligibility But Luka as a Laker was already used by LR in recent draft
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Post#71 » by MadNESS » Mon May 19, 2025 4:15 pm

Snakebites wrote:I’m in.

What if the Knicks/Celtics get added to this list? I doubt it (sorry LR).


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Post#72 » by Fadeaway_J » Mon May 19, 2025 4:20 pm

Snakebites wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:For some reason I thought a player had to play half of the full season like 41 games with a franchise to be eligible for that franchise. The rule is written differently now. Maybe that is something that has changed? Not sure.

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The rule has always been half of his available games, not half the games in the season.

Correct. In my case I just didn't check- I recalled how the rule functions. Usually deadline aquisitions aren't available for their new teams- in Luka and Butler's case they are simply because they played so few games with their original teams this season.

Man, I'm really kicking myself. The Butler thing is whatever- I'm not all that high on his 2025 season. Nice value pick but not catastrophic when you already have Lebron. It's the Luka thing that's rough...

Luka was one of the players I'd forgotten about that I was referring to earlier. Jimmy was another.
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Post#73 » by durantbird » Mon May 19, 2025 4:37 pm

durantbird wrote:It should be noted that I think it's the first time Butler is used as a Warrior in terms of eligibility But Luka as a Laker was already used by LR in recent draft

I was talking about the West Cross Standings viewtopic.php?f=340&t=2456128
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Post#74 » by Snakebites » Mon May 19, 2025 5:28 pm

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Snakebites wrote:I’m in.

What if the Knicks/Celtics get added to this list? I doubt it (sorry LR).


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Post#75 » by Snakebites » Mon May 19, 2025 5:28 pm

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Snakebites wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:The rule has always been half of his available games, not half the games in the season.

Correct. In my case I just didn't check- I recalled how the rule functions. Usually deadline aquisitions aren't available for their new teams- in Luka and Butler's case they are simply because they played so few games with their original teams this season.

Man, I'm really kicking myself. The Butler thing is whatever- I'm not all that high on his 2025 season. Nice value pick but not catastrophic when you already have Lebron. It's the Luka thing that's rough...

Luka was one of the players I'd forgotten about that I was referring to earlier. Jimmy was another.

No no no. You've got it all wrong. WE didn't mess up anything. It's all the rules fault for being unclear.

Figured my best bet was to try and trip up these superteams with some defense and athleticism.
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Post#76 » by MadNESS » Mon May 19, 2025 5:57 pm

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Post#77 » by Stan » Mon May 19, 2025 6:24 pm

I think we should at least consider changing that rule. To me, it just seems pretty silly, and frankly illogical, that in a team specific draft like this a guy who barely plays 30 games for the team in question can be still be eligible to be drafted, while a guy who plays for one team and plays 40 games for that team isn't.

Am I really the only one who sees how illogical this is?
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Post#78 » by Snakebites » Mon May 19, 2025 6:32 pm

Stan wrote:I think we should at least consider changing that rule. To me, it just seems pretty silly, and frankly illogical, that in a team specific draft like this a guy who barely plays 30 games for the team in question can be still be eligible to be drafted, while a guy who plays for one team and plays 40 games for that team isn't.

Am I really the only one who sees how illogical this is?

I think it's a little strange- these guys are elligable to be drafted BECAUSE they missed over half of the season in the time leading up to the draft. It's not because they played half of the season with their new team. It's because they DIDN'T play for their original team.
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Post#79 » by Stan » Mon May 19, 2025 6:41 pm

Snakebites wrote:
Stan wrote:I think we should at least consider changing that rule. To me, it just seems pretty silly, and frankly illogical, that in a team specific draft like this a guy who barely plays 30 games for the team in question can be still be eligible to be drafted, while a guy who plays for one team and plays 40 games for that team isn't.

Am I really the only one who sees how illogical this is?

I think it's a little strange- these guys are elligable to be drafted BECAUSE they missed over half of the season in the time leading up to the draft. It's not because they played half of the season with their new team. It's because they DIDN'T play for their original team.

And the fact so many posters weren't aware of this and let Butler & Luka get drafted so late only emphasizes this point. In a hypothetical situation where Luka plays 28 games for the Lakers this year he's eligible to get drafted and LeBron plays 40 and he isn't is very hard to sell as making any sense lol.

As you said, we're rewarding guys for missing tons of games if they happen to get traded and penalizing those who play more often. If Luka had played in even 60 games this year he wouldn't have been eligible for this draft. But instead he plays 50 and he is.

To me that's a very flawed rule.
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Post#80 » by durantbird » Mon May 19, 2025 6:41 pm

Snakebites wrote:
Stan wrote:I think we should at least consider changing that rule. To me, it just seems pretty silly, and frankly illogical, that in a team specific draft like this a guy who barely plays 30 games for the team in question can be still be eligible to be drafted, while a guy who plays for one team and plays 40 games for that team isn't.

Am I really the only one who sees how illogical this is?

I think it's a little strange- these guys are elligable to be drafted BECAUSE they missed over half of the season in the time leading up to the draft. It's not because they played half of the season with their new team. It's because they DIDN'T play for their original team.

I don't really see a reason to change this honestly. Luka 25' and Butler 25' are at one end of this rule, but on the other end - suppose there's a guy who played 76 games in a 82 games season, 40 for one team, and 36 for the other. If you require that he'll play 50% of the total games in the season, then you basically say his whole season cannot be picked (assuming we play a franchise based draft).

Peja 2006 for example - don't see why this shouldn't be an eligible Indy season.

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