The Brock Purdy Thread

CrimsonCrew · Post #2421 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Fri May 16, 2025 9:52 pm

Well at least it's done. Got to see the full details to really know how it looks (and, in my case, then let the experts tell me because I really don't understand the nuances of contracts), but it's more than I would have paid. That said, it's a five-year extension through 2030, so it's really more like six years for $270M, which is that $45M/year range that felt palatable. Front-loaded, so he should be a relative discount in the final years when he's in his prime. Though by then, if he's played up to that level, he'll have leverage to get a restructure.

Sure would be nice if we put some assets into protecting that investment....

CharityStripe34 · Post #2422 » by **CharityStripe34** » Sat May 17, 2025 1:10 am

Need to improve the line to protect the investment.

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Jikkle · Post #2423 » by **Jikkle** » Sat May 17, 2025 7:46 am

The devil will be in the details so we'll see how the numbers actually shake out but it's about what I expected he'd get.

On his end I do hope he'll refine his play further this year. I'd like to see him tone down his aggressiveness a notch and take a few more lay-ups. There are just times you want to take the 5 yards compared to taking a low-percentage 20-yard shot on 1st or 2nd down.

Offensive line upgrades are a must as well. I gritted my teeth and let is slide this draft because at least they used the picks to address the other massive weakness on the team and I get you don't know how long Saleh will be around so you want to maximize that time but I definitely can't let it slide after this year.

Lastly hopefully Shanahan self scouted and patched up some issues the offense had. Bootlegs were completely figured out and it seems defenses basically told the DE to chase the QB no matter what. Also it seems like defenses were exploiting our protection rules upfront. Yeah these guys suck at blocking but we did see several times where they just flat out didn't pick up anybody so either we had massive mental mistakes or they did what they were instructed to do but defenses used that against us.

Jikkle · Post #2424 » by **Jikkle** » Sat May 17, 2025 8:29 am

Not the talk here but in general I'm tired of the talk that because we paid Purdy we can't build a team around him.

The Eagles have Jalen Hurts and his 51 AAV salary and they have one of the best offensive lines while paying Barkley, Smith, and Brown.

Do we trust the brain trust of the 9ers to be capable of doing it is another matter but people need to stop acting like once you pay a QB that all you can do is fill out the roster with cheap low skilled players.

clyde21 · Post #2425 » by **clyde21** » Sat May 17, 2025 4:51 pm

Eagles will have a contract reckoning of their own too soon

They're paying Jalen Carter and Jordan Davis 8 mil total this year. Almost their entire defense is still on cheap contracts and the guys that were asking for more money like Sweat and Redick are gone.

They've been able to do it because they've drafted insanely well. We haven't. That's the difference.

arich35 · Post #2426 » by **arich35** » Sun May 18, 2025 5:08 am

Glad we got this wrapped up so soon.
Just based on AAV I believe Purdy is 7th which I feel like is right in line, within 2 years he will probably be down to 10.
I actually like that the contract is front loaded, salary cap will keep going up and in a few years we will have a ton a cap to hopefully pay the younger guys who came in last year, this year or next, plus bring in FA's during those years. I think the FO knows we have probably 2-3 years left with the core "older" guys and they are all pretty much paid at this point except Warner after 2 years.

Jikkle · Post #2427 » by **Jikkle** » Sun May 18, 2025 9:13 pm

clyde21 wrote:Eagles will have a contract reckoning of their own too soon

They're paying Jalen Carter and Jordan Davis 8 mil total this year. Almost their entire defense is still on cheap contracts and the guys that were asking for more money like Sweat and Redick are gone.

They've been able to do it because they've drafted insanely well. We haven't. That's the difference.

I agree but my point is that paying your QB and still winning can be done.

I use the Eagles as an example because yeah they just won the Super Bowl but they did it paying Hurts who really isn't any better than Purdy.

Can this front office put together the roster to do it remains to be seen. This 2025 class for me will be a litmus test to see if the front office has course corrected when it comes to drafting or if 2024 was more of a fluke.

Jikkle · Post #2428 » by **Jikkle** » Sun May 18, 2025 9:15 pm

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/brock-purdys-contract-has-a-true-average-from-signing-of-45-million-per-year

Numbers and details for these things might as well be a foreign language to me but it seems that the true average for Purdy is 45 million a year rather than 53 million a year.

Still need to see the nitty gritty details to see how the contract really lays out because when people see 45 or 53 million a year they think that's the cap hit every year and that's not even close to the case.

CrimsonCrew · Post #2429 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Sun May 18, 2025 11:06 pm

Jikkle wrote:https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/brock-purdys-contract-has-a-true-average-from-signing-of-45-million-per-year

Numbers and details for these things might as well be a foreign language to me but it seems that the true average for Purdy is 45 million a year rather than 53 million a year.

Still need to see the nitty gritty details to see how the contract really lays out because when people see 45 or 53 million a year they think that's the cap hit every year and that's not even close to the case.

Yeah, it is really more like 6 years, $45 million per. But a lot of the other contracts we cite also included a rookie year. Often those were scheduled to be fifth year options, so they are a lot higher than Purdy's 5 million or so this year, but they still aren't nearly as high as the aav of the contract.

That said, when you look at Darnold and say $33 million per, this is going to look a lot closer to that over the first three years.

clyde21 · Post #2430 » by **clyde21** » Mon May 19, 2025 4:16 am

A NTC? oh come on.

Read on Twitter

Jikkle · Post #2431 » by **Jikkle** » Mon May 19, 2025 9:51 am

clyde21 wrote:A NTC? oh come on.

Read on Twitter

I don't see it an NTC ever being an issue.

No team is going to trade for a QB making the money he's making unless he's onboard with going there. I can't really think of a time a starting QB was traded to another team that he wasn't onboard with going there.

clyde21 · Post #2432 » by **clyde21** » Mon May 19, 2025 1:57 pm

Jikkle wrote:
clyde21 wrote:A NTC? oh come on.

Read on Twitter

I don't see it an NTC ever being an issue.

No team is going to trade for a QB making the money he's making unless he's onboard with going there. I can't really think of a time a starting QB was traded to another team that he wasn't onboard with going there.

It can definitely be an issue, the Falcons are dealing with one right now with theirs and Cousins.

Pattersonca65 · Post #2433 » by **Pattersonca65** » Mon May 19, 2025 5:56 pm

Details are here
https://www.ninersnation.com/2025/5/19/24433197/details-about-brock-purdys-contract-emerge-the-49ers-are-getting-a-steal-if-they-keep-winning

CrimsonCrew · Post #2434 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Mon May 19, 2025 6:11 pm

Took a look at Goff's extension for comparison's sake. He was signed on a vet contract when he extended, so his four-year, $212 million extension was actually more of a five-year, $245 million contract, coming in at an average of $49 million if we're comparing it to the totality of Purdy's contract.

So a year later, the Niners paid about 10% less annually for Purdy than the Lions paid for Goff, and the contract lasts a year longer - obviously the last year of the contract is typically the highest and bumps the rest of the averages. From that frame of reference, this is a very solid deal. All the pundits wringing their hands about it are using a number ($53 million AAV) that just isn't indicative of the total contract impact.

CrimsonCrew · Post #2435 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Mon May 19, 2025 6:39 pm

Pattersonca65 wrote:Details are here
https://www.ninersnation.com/2025/5/19/24433197/details-about-brock-purdys-contract-emerge-the-49ers-are-getting-a-steal-if-they-keep-winning

Assuming that checks out, it reads like a nice contract for the Niners, but probably not easy to get out of initially (though what QB contract is?). Particularly in a couple years, it could look really good relative to what the top QBs are making.

Pattersonca65 · Post #2436 » by **Pattersonca65** » Mon May 19, 2025 8:13 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:Details are here
https://www.ninersnation.com/2025/5/19/24433197/details-about-brock-purdys-contract-emerge-the-49ers-are-getting-a-steal-if-they-keep-winning

Assuming that checks out, it reads like a nice contract for the Niners, but probably not easy to get out of initially (though what QB contract is?). Particularly in a couple years, it could look really good relative to what the top QBs are making.

I am glad it is over and don't have to talk about it anymore. Sounds like Fred Warner's extension is imminent.

CrimsonCrew · Post #2437 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Mon May 19, 2025 8:39 pm

clyde21 wrote:
Jikkle wrote:
clyde21 wrote:A NTC? oh come on.

Read on Twitter

I don't see it an NTC ever being an issue.

No team is going to trade for a QB making the money he's making unless he's onboard with going there. I can't really think of a time a starting QB was traded to another team that he wasn't onboard with going there.

It can definitely be an issue, the Falcons are dealing with one right now with theirs and Cousins.

Bit of a different situation with a 25-year-old vs. a 35-year-old (last year) coming off an injury. As I see it, either Purdy earns the contract and they stick with him or he doesn't and there won't be a trade market anyway.

arich35 · Post #2438 » by **arich35** » Mon May 19, 2025 9:13 pm

Well he didn't get 60M that one guy mainly was so worried about. I am glad we paid him and he is our franchise guy going forward, if Purdy is gone it is most likely Kyle and Lynch will be gone as well

wco81 · Post #2439 » by **wco81** » Tue May 20, 2025 4:48 pm

Someone said that if Purdy hadn't vastly over performed his draft position, Shanahan would have been out of the building by now, after that disastrous Trey Lance trade and pick.

So of course they were going to pay Purdy.

arich35 · Post #2440 » by **arich35** » Tue May 20, 2025 5:34 pm

wco81 wrote:Someone said that if Purdy hadn't vastly over performed his draft position, Shanahan would have been out of the building by now, after that disastrous Trey Lance trade and pick.

So of course they were going to pay Purdy.

I mean if we ended up sucking after Lance/Jimmy got hurt and then the next year we still didn't have a QB and sucked more, possibly