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Post#281 » by Jeffrey » Mon May 19, 2025 7:40 pm

Giannis for KAT + PJ Tucker (has club option) + pick swap. If Giannis force his trade to NYK, there's not a whole lot and you get a young KAT. Tell Giannis that he has to play center or this won't work

I want Tyler Kolek to be our next backup PG
I want Ariel Hokpurti to be our next backup Center
Deuce McBride will need to stay to cover the defensive holes
Re-sign Delon Wright
Trade Mitch (love him this playoffs) but I feel I can get a couple of rotation players
Sign Kelly Oubre to TMLE (if he opts out of his option) or even Ben Simmons
Vet minimum signing - Alex Burks (Microwave scorer)


Giannis | Hokpurti
OG
Mikal | Oubre
Hart | McBride
Brunson | Kolek
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Post#282 » by GettinitDone » Mon May 19, 2025 8:08 pm

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Not a big fan of trade rumors in the middle of playoffs

If this becomes officially Giannis' trade demand, it could become a potentially huge distraction to our team chemistry.

If you're KAT, Mikal, even OG or Josh, you can't help but think "if he wants to come here, I guess Leon will definitely talk with the Bucks, so could/ might I be included in the package??"

"Damn all these efforts I'm giving... only to be traded at the end anyways, what's the point??"

SAS is too smart not to know this could be a huge distraction, wtf is he thinking ?? :banghead:
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Post#283 » by KnixinSix » Mon May 19, 2025 10:01 pm

Jeffrey wrote:Giannis for KAT + PJ Tucker (has club option) + pick swap. If Giannis force his trade to NYK, there's not a whole lot and you get a young KAT. Tell Giannis that he has to play center or this won't work

I want Tyler Kolek to be our next backup PG
I want Ariel Hokpurti to be our next backup Center
Deuce McBride will need to stay to cover the defensive holes
Re-sign Delon Wright
Trade Mitch (love him this playoffs) but I feel I can get a couple of rotation players
Sign Kelly Oubre to TMLE (if he opts out of his option) or even Ben Simmons
Vet minimum signing - Alex Burks (Microwave scorer)


Giannis | Hokpurti
OG
Mikal | Oubre
Hart | McBride
Brunson | Kolek


I like your general idea but I still think it will take more :

KAT+ Dadiet + Tucker (club option) + 3 1st round pick swaps + 3 2nd rd picks.

DDV for McBride and Kolek + salary filler

Re-sign Delon Wright

Rotation (minutes):
C Giannis (20) Mitch (22) Huk (6)
PF OG (25) Giannis (13) Hart (10)
SF Bridges (30) Hart (18)
SG Divo (30) Wright(15) Bridges (3)
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Post#284 » by KnixinSix » Mon May 19, 2025 10:03 pm

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Not a big fan of trade rumors in the middle of playoffs

If this becomes officially Giannis' trade demand, it could become a potentially huge distraction to our team chemistry.

If you're KAT, Mikal, even OG or Josh, you can't help but think "if he wants to come here, I guess Leon will definitely talk with the Bucks, so could/ might I be included in the package??"

"Damn all these efforts I'm giving... only to be traded at the end anyways, what's the point??"

SAS is too smart not to know this could be a huge distraction, wtf is he thinking ?? :banghead:


Hes trying to be the first to break the news. In any event its prolly not going to pick up too much steam bc the NBA will want to keep it quiet until playoffs officially over.
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Post#285 » by KnixinSix » Mon May 19, 2025 10:06 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:You don’t say no to Giannis. He seems to be one of the nicest guys in the league from what I can tell. But let’s focus on this run first.


Not a diva either and will most likely fit right in with team chemistry and club culture.

It also keeps another team from getting him and possibly becoming the favorites to win it all over us.
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Post#286 » by WargamesX » Mon May 19, 2025 10:07 pm

KnixinSix wrote:
GettinitDone wrote:
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Not a big fan of trade rumors in the middle of playoffs

If this becomes officially Giannis' trade demand, it could become a potentially huge distraction to our team chemistry.

If you're KAT, Mikal, even OG or Josh, you can't help but think "if he wants to come here, I guess Leon will definitely talk with the Bucks, so could/ might I be included in the package??"

"Damn all these efforts I'm giving... only to be traded at the end anyways, what's the point??"

SAS is too smart not to know this could be a huge distraction, wtf is he thinking ?? :banghead:


Hes trying to be the first to break the news. In any event its prolly not going to pick up too much steam bc the NBA will want to keep it quiet until playoffs officially over.

I don’t think Giannis comes here. I think this is just noise. The Knicks moved mountains to get where they are now. I don’t think they can get Giannis without suffering from “Big Three” disease aka no roleplayers. Right now we have a solid 7, a bunch of prospects, and maybe through a little offseason grease the ability to add a legitimate 8th guy outside of internal develop,ent.
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Post#287 » by KnixinSix » Mon May 19, 2025 10:13 pm

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If you trade Mitch and deuce and absorb the contract to enter the second apron and you have a team of Brunson, KAT og Mikal hart giannis. Well now that’s just insane.


That can’t be possible. That would be the biggest hack in NBA history


The option is there
Deuce and Mitch combined make half of giannis’ max contract salary
But the option to absorb the deal and enter the second apron is there as well

You’re basically saying a team of
Brunson
Mikal
OG
KAT
Giannis
Hart

Will be the core for two years. His contract comes off the books in two seasons so you can run that team for two years being in the second apron
And fill out the backups with pac, huk, kolek, McCullar

Again it all relies on how bad Giannis wants to be a Knick.
If he says it’s NY or nowhere, I’m thinking he reserved the option to enter the second apron for a player like this.


CBA is way too complicated to keep up but if there is a way to get Giannis here without somehow giving up any of our big 4 you do it. That would be PhiladelphiaEagle, Los AngelesDodgers, Los Angeles Lakers heist type stuff. But I just don’t see any way in the world that Milwaukee would just give him up for cap relief. Since we dont have prime FRPs to give up, they are going to at minimum want a star back plus more.
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Post#288 » by KnixinSix » Mon May 19, 2025 10:18 pm

WargamesX wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:
GettinitDone wrote:
Not a big fan of trade rumors in the middle of playoffs

If this becomes officially Giannis' trade demand, it could become a potentially huge distraction to our team chemistry.

If you're KAT, Mikal, even OG or Josh, you can't help but think "if he wants to come here, I guess Leon will definitely talk with the Bucks, so could/ might I be included in the package??"

"Damn all these efforts I'm giving... only to be traded at the end anyways, what's the point??"

SAS is too smart not to know this could be a huge distraction, wtf is he thinking ?? :banghead:


Hes trying to be the first to break the news. In any event its prolly not going to pick up too much steam bc the NBA will want to keep it quiet until playoffs officially over.

I don’t think Giannis comes here. I think this is just noise. The Knicks moved mountains to get where they are now. I don’t think they can get Giannis without suffering from “Big Three” disease aka no roleplayers. Right now we have a solid 7, a bunch of prospects, and maybe through a little offseason grease the ability to add a legitimate 8th guy outside of internal develop,ent.



You could be right but we are a wanted destination now. We probably have the best culture and team chemistry in the NBA. Players most certainly want to come here. A big getting to play with Brunson is about as good as it gets. This isnt an old or brittle assembled group of players( Philly, Clippers etc.). I could see a scenario where he says NY combines both a city I love with one of the best chances to win a title.

This isnt necessarily out of the realm of possibility
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Post#289 » by Polk377 » Mon May 19, 2025 10:35 pm

Jeffrey wrote:Giannis for KAT + PJ Tucker (has club option) + pick swap. If Giannis force his trade to NYK, there's not a whole lot and you get a young KAT. Tell Giannis that he has to play center or this won't work

I want Tyler Kolek to be our next backup PG
I want Ariel Hokpurti to be our next backup Center
Deuce McBride will need to stay to cover the defensive holes
Re-sign Delon Wright
Trade Mitch (love him this playoffs) but I feel I can get a couple of rotation players
Sign Kelly Oubre to TMLE (if he opts out of his option) or even Ben Simmons
Vet minimum signing - Alex Burks (Microwave scorer)


Giannis | Hokpurti
OG
Mikal | Oubre
Hart | McBride
Brunson | Kolek


Congrats, now we have 4 players playing out of position and another non shooter in the lineup :clap: :clap:
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Post#290 » by Jeffrey » Mon May 19, 2025 11:01 pm

Polk377 wrote:
Jeffrey wrote:Giannis for KAT + PJ Tucker (has club option) + pick swap. If Giannis force his trade to NYK, there's not a whole lot and you get a young KAT. Tell Giannis that he has to play center or this won't work

I want Tyler Kolek to be our next backup PG
I want Ariel Hokpurti to be our next backup Center
Deuce McBride will need to stay to cover the defensive holes
Re-sign Delon Wright
Trade Mitch (love him this playoffs) but I feel I can get a couple of rotation players
Sign Kelly Oubre to TMLE (if he opts out of his option) or even Ben Simmons
Vet minimum signing - Alex Burks (Microwave scorer)


Giannis | Hokpurti
OG
Mikal | Oubre
Hart | McBride
Brunson | Kolek


Congrats, now we have 4 players playing out of position and another non shooter in the lineup :clap: :clap:


yahhhhhh
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Post#291 » by Jeffrey » Mon May 19, 2025 11:01 pm

Who says no?

Lauri Markennan for Paul George and no.3 pick
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Post#292 » by Clyde_Style » Mon May 19, 2025 11:37 pm

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Kinda what I was thinking above....

That team lacks a true point guard. Divo is also a 12M a year player. If you replace him with 2 players: Duece at 4.3M and Kolek who is cost controlled for next 4years at around 2-3M and then expring contracts.....they would probably love that from a financial standpoint.

And Kolek and Duece is BETTER potential wise than the Minnesota version of Divo.

They might do it because:

1. They have a 220M payroll this year is 2nd in the NBA, that only drops to 187M next year which is still top 10. If the sign Randle it will jump them potentially over that 220M. Minny is a smaller market team that DOES not want the additional financial stress of being over the 2nd apron and will want to mitiagate that factor as much as possible. Rosas knows this better than anyone outside of their organization.
2. Minny version of Divo is not NYs version. They were banking on getting NYs version and that didn't happen.
3. Divo is owed almost 25 million (in just one player) over next 2 years. Kolek and McBride combined are less than that.
4. Minny needs a pure PG for that roster to be more complete. With Brunson, Kolek is kind of redundant if he can't play the 2 or be an elite defender. McBride's defense complements Kolek well in tandem. On this team if you lose McBride, Delon Wright is really is a good complement to Brunson as he can ball handle , distribute a little bit and play excellent defense.


Did somebody say Kolek?

Deuce/Kolek - The annihilating 2nd unit backcourt of the future!


The upside projection of those two players vs Divo's reduced performance level in Minnesota combined with the more favorable financial implications for their team is why there is a pretty good chance they do this deal or something similar (if we presented the offer)


Why are we running trade scenarios after getting to the ECF?

Let's enjoy the moment

Just a friendly warning to the next person who posts during the playoffs about trading away our team:

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Post#293 » by Clyde_Style » Mon May 19, 2025 11:39 pm

GettinitDone wrote:
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Not a big fan of trade rumors in the middle of playoffs

If this becomes officially Giannis' trade demand, it could become a potentially huge distraction to our team chemistry.

If you're KAT, Mikal, even OG or Josh, you can't help but think "if he wants to come here, I guess Leon will definitely talk with the Bucks, so could/ might I be included in the package??"

"Damn all these efforts I'm giving... only to be traded at the end anyways, what's the point??"

SAS is too smart not to know this could be a huge distraction, wtf is he thinking ?? :banghead:


SAS is an egomaniac, not a Knicks fan

Anything that moves the spotlight off the Knicks and on to him is a win in his book
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Post#294 » by Clyde_Style » Mon May 19, 2025 11:50 pm

WargamesX wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:
GettinitDone wrote:
Not a big fan of trade rumors in the middle of playoffs

If this becomes officially Giannis' trade demand, it could become a potentially huge distraction to our team chemistry.

If you're KAT, Mikal, even OG or Josh, you can't help but think "if he wants to come here, I guess Leon will definitely talk with the Bucks, so could/ might I be included in the package??"

"Damn all these efforts I'm giving... only to be traded at the end anyways, what's the point??"

SAS is too smart not to know this could be a huge distraction, wtf is he thinking ?? :banghead:


Hes trying to be the first to break the news. In any event its prolly not going to pick up too much steam bc the NBA will want to keep it quiet until playoffs officially over.

I don’t think Giannis comes here. I think this is just noise. The Knicks moved mountains to get where they are now. I don’t think they can get Giannis without suffering from “Big Three” disease aka no roleplayers. Right now we have a solid 7, a bunch of prospects, and maybe through a little offseason grease the ability to add a legitimate 8th guy outside of internal develop,ent.


100%

These Giannis fantasies are fcken stupid

For god's sakes they are not about to gut the team to get him. They just built the team and it's a damn good one.

People seem to have no ability to live in the present and enjoy what we've got. All stuck in their heads spinning their wheels about something that WILL NEVER HAPPEN.
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Post#295 » by The KnicksFix » Mon May 19, 2025 11:52 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
WargamesX wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:
Hes trying to be the first to break the news. In any event its prolly not going to pick up too much steam bc the NBA will want to keep it quiet until playoffs officially over.

I don’t think Giannis comes here. I think this is just noise. The Knicks moved mountains to get where they are now. I don’t think they can get Giannis without suffering from “Big Three” disease aka no roleplayers. Right now we have a solid 7, a bunch of prospects, and maybe through a little offseason grease the ability to add a legitimate 8th guy outside of internal develop,ent.


100%

These Giannis fantasies are fcken stupid

For god's sakes they are not about to gut the team to get him. They just built the team and it's a damn good one.

People seem to have no ability to live in the present and enjoy what we've got. All stuck in their heads spinning their wheels about something that WILL NEVER HAPPEN.


We said Mikal to the Knicks was a pipe dream
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Post#296 » by Clyde_Style » Mon May 19, 2025 11:58 pm

The KnicksFix wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
WargamesX wrote:I don’t think Giannis comes here. I think this is just noise. The Knicks moved mountains to get where they are now. I don’t think they can get Giannis without suffering from “Big Three” disease aka no roleplayers. Right now we have a solid 7, a bunch of prospects, and maybe through a little offseason grease the ability to add a legitimate 8th guy outside of internal develop,ent.


100%

These Giannis fantasies are fcken stupid

For god's sakes they are not about to gut the team to get him. They just built the team and it's a damn good one.

People seem to have no ability to live in the present and enjoy what we've got. All stuck in their heads spinning their wheels about something that WILL NEVER HAPPEN.


We said Mikal to the Knicks was a pipe dream


Enjoy this moment. You never know when it will happen again.

And I've graduated from shovels to knives. Just sayin
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Post#297 » by WargamesX » Tue May 20, 2025 12:05 am

The KnicksFix wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
WargamesX wrote:I don’t think Giannis comes here. I think this is just noise. The Knicks moved mountains to get where they are now. I don’t think they can get Giannis without suffering from “Big Three” disease aka no roleplayers. Right now we have a solid 7, a bunch of prospects, and maybe through a little offseason grease the ability to add a legitimate 8th guy outside of internal develop,ent.


100%

These Giannis fantasies are fcken stupid

For god's sakes they are not about to gut the team to get him. They just built the team and it's a damn good one.

People seem to have no ability to live in the present and enjoy what we've got. All stuck in their heads spinning their wheels about something that WILL NEVER HAPPEN.


We said Mikal to the Knicks was a pipe dream


But we also had a the trove of assets. Now we only really have the assets needed to round out the roster we have now. The best thing going for us is any free agent who wants to ring chase and live in a great city has to have NY as a destination.

All we got are win now players, it just makes more sense for them to grab a legit 8th guy for the rotation.

The current roster is made very well.
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Post#298 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Tue May 20, 2025 12:21 am

In the Mitch thread sol537 said

sol537 wrote:Extend Mitch and Mikal this off-season and keep this train going. Give ourselves a couple of cracks at the chip and we may just break through one day...

What do you think the Knicks should want to extend Mitch for?

The maximum is $17,181,818. With 8% increases over the following 3 seasons that would total $77m over 4. Theoretically the Knicks could also include a 15% signing bonus - for another $11.5m, giving him essentially $22m for each of the next 4 years. Is that a good deal for both sides? Eg, given iHart last year guaranteed himself $60m over 2 years and Mitch's salary for next year is just under $13m.
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Post#299 » by WargamesX » Tue May 20, 2025 12:25 am

B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:In the Mitch thread sol537 said

sol537 wrote:Extend Mitch and Mikal this off-season and keep this train going. Give ourselves a couple of cracks at the chip and we may just break through one day...

What do you think the Knicks should want to extend Mitch for?

The maximum is $17,181,818. With 8% increases over the following 3 seasons that would total $77m over 4. Theoretically the Knicks could also include a 15% signing bonus - for another $11.5m, giving him essentially $22m for each of the next 4 years. Is that a good deal for both sides? Eg, given iHart last year guaranteed himself $60m over 2 years and Mitch's salary for next year is just under $13m.

I think that is a good deal based on the market, his level of play, and the injury concerns.
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Post#300 » by KnixinSix » Tue May 20, 2025 12:48 am

The KnicksFix wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
WargamesX wrote:I don’t think Giannis comes here. I think this is just noise. The Knicks moved mountains to get where they are now. I don’t think they can get Giannis without suffering from “Big Three” disease aka no roleplayers. Right now we have a solid 7, a bunch of prospects, and maybe through a little offseason grease the ability to add a legitimate 8th guy outside of internal develop,ent.


100%

These Giannis fantasies are fcken stupid

For god's sakes they are not about to gut the team to get him. They just built the team and it's a damn good one.

People seem to have no ability to live in the present and enjoy what we've got. All stuck in their heads spinning their wheels about something that WILL NEVER HAPPEN.


We said Mikal to the Knicks was a pipe dream


And KAT.....

And OG...
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