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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#2001 » by Diop » Mon May 19, 2025 11:17 pm

fatlever wrote:I don't think it's that crazy of an idea to try to pitch a deal with the Spurs to swap 2 for 4. I'm not entirely sure what they would be looking for in return, whether it be additional first round pick(s) or a win-now player From our roster that maybe fits what they are trying to build with a lesser player, salary fit, coming back our way.

4 + 2026 mystery 1st for 2
4 + miami or dallas 1st for 2
That's a pretty steep price to pay to move up two spots. But that's probably what it would take in terms of a pick.
I could see these spurs having some interest in Mark Williams as well.

They also loved Salaun :P
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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#2002 » by fatlever » Mon May 19, 2025 11:39 pm

fatlever wrote:https://www.youtube.com/live/j2uGPQ2Gwjg?si=cfK1dK1FF_swh9J6

Tre vs vj from no ceilings

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Interesting comments about tre And his no nonsense approach to the game (i love that). Talking about how basically he only wants to hoop and everything else is a distraction. Maybe didn't quite trust his Texas teammates which led to him taking more mid range jumpers rather than kicking out, so not so much that he can't pass but that he didn't trust his teammates. But also that he's a little bit like Jimmy Butler in the sense that if he doesn't think you're serious about winning then he's not going to want to have anything to do with you. That if he's in a good locker room it won't be an issue but if he's surrounded by a bunch of immature players that are goofing off it might be an issue... (lol... Which locker room does that sound like?) But they are sky high on his upside. But this is exactly what our new front office and coach are trying to change with this Hornet's DNA stuff. So I could definitely see them really appreciating this part of his mentality.
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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#2003 » by fatlever » Mon May 19, 2025 11:40 pm

Diop wrote:
fatlever wrote:I don't think it's that crazy of an idea to try to pitch a deal with the Spurs to swap 2 for 4. I'm not entirely sure what they would be looking for in return, whether it be additional first round pick(s) or a win-now player From our roster that maybe fits what they are trying to build with a lesser player, salary fit, coming back our way.

4 + 2026 mystery 1st for 2
4 + miami or dallas 1st for 2
That's a pretty steep price to pay to move up two spots. But that's probably what it would take in terms of a pick.
I could see these spurs having some interest in Mark Williams as well.

They also loved Salaun :P


We can throw in tiddy for their 2031 2nd round pick.
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Post#2004 » by amcoolio » Mon May 19, 2025 11:58 pm

Spurs wouldn't trade Harper for 4 and 4 firsts from the Hornets
They would want Miller and 4 for 2. And I would consider it. Harper is a Cade/Edwards/Kyrie level prospect, Flagg just happens to be in his class. I don't see Miller getting to that level
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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#2005 » by fatlever » Tue May 20, 2025 12:01 am

fatlever wrote:
fatlever wrote:https://www.youtube.com/live/j2uGPQ2Gwjg?si=cfK1dK1FF_swh9J6

Tre vs vj from no ceilings

Haven't had a chance to watch yet

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watching this now...
Interesting comments about tre And his no nonsense approach to the game (i love that). Talking about how basically he only wants to hoop and everything else is a distraction. Maybe didn't quite trust his Texas teammates which led to him taking more mid range jumpers rather than kicking out, so not so much that he can't pass but that he didn't trust his teammates. But also that he's a little bit like Jimmy Butler in the sense that if he doesn't think you're serious about winning then he's not going to want to have anything to do with you. That if he's in a good locker room it won't be an issue but if he's surrounded by a bunch of immature players that are goofing off it might be an issue... (lol... Which locker room does that sound like?) But they are sky high on his upside. But this is exactly what our new front office and coach are trying to change with this Hornet's DNA stuff. So I could definitely see them really appreciating this part of his mentality.


Listening to the vj section now. Another very serious intense competitor incredible work ethic and very high character. Never someone you have to worry about off the court. They told an amazing story about him staying after practicing cleaning up the gym After everyone left. That's just the kind of dude he is. Saying Don't overthink it when it comes to him. He will do what it takes.
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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#2006 » by Chapelchilla » Tue May 20, 2025 12:08 am

JustBuzzin wrote:
cornchip wrote:I'm pretty much all in on VJ at this point. Only thing is that it seems like he's shaping up to be the consensus #3 behind Flagg and Harper.

That said, I'd definitely be willing to move up for him. Miles, Nurkic, #4, and a future 2nd for Paul George and #3 might be the play depending on who else is bidding for the pick.

Taking on the PG contract just to move up 1 spot is crazy.


As well as Miles
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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#2007 » by Diop » Tue May 20, 2025 12:54 am

fatlever wrote:
fatlever wrote:
fatlever wrote:https://www.youtube.com/live/j2uGPQ2Gwjg?si=cfK1dK1FF_swh9J6

Tre vs vj from no ceilings

Haven't had a chance to watch yet

Sent from my SM-G973U using RealGM mobile app


watching this now...
Interesting comments about tre And his no nonsense approach to the game (i love that). Talking about how basically he only wants to hoop and everything else is a distraction. Maybe didn't quite trust his Texas teammates which led to him taking more mid range jumpers rather than kicking out, so not so much that he can't pass but that he didn't trust his teammates. But also that he's a little bit like Jimmy Butler in the sense that if he doesn't think you're serious about winning then he's not going to want to have anything to do with you. That if he's in a good locker room it won't be an issue but if he's surrounded by a bunch of immature players that are goofing off it might be an issue... (lol... Which locker room does that sound like?) But they are sky high on his upside. But this is exactly what our new front office and coach are trying to change with this Hornet's DNA stuff. So I could definitely see them really appreciating this part of his mentality.


Listening to the vj section now. Another very serious intense competitor incredible work ethic and very high character. Never someone you have to worry about off the court. They told an amazing story about him staying after practicing cleaning up the gym After everyone left. That's just the kind of dude he is. Saying Don't overthink it when it comes to him. He will do what it takes.

thats comforting that we should get a competitor either way. (watch us now take Ace who turns into Michael Beasley 2)
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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#2008 » by Diop » Tue May 20, 2025 12:55 am

JustBuzzin wrote:
cornchip wrote:I'm pretty much all in on VJ at this point. Only thing is that it seems like he's shaping up to be the consensus #3 behind Flagg and Harper.

That said, I'd definitely be willing to move up for him. Miles, Nurkic, #4, and a future 2nd for Paul George and #3 might be the play depending on who else is bidding for the pick.

Taking on the PG contract just to move up 1 spot is crazy.

PG isn't dead, if he could rehab back into shape and we give him a chance to pad his stats, we could be able to move him on
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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#2009 » by JustBuzzin » Tue May 20, 2025 1:06 am

Diop wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:
cornchip wrote:I'm pretty much all in on VJ at this point. Only thing is that it seems like he's shaping up to be the consensus #3 behind Flagg and Harper.

That said, I'd definitely be willing to move up for him. Miles, Nurkic, #4, and a future 2nd for Paul George and #3 might be the play depending on who else is bidding for the pick.

Taking on the PG contract just to move up 1 spot is crazy.

PG isn't dead, if he could rehab back into shape and we give him a chance to pad his stats, we could be able to move him on
PG is my favorite player lol

I'm just saying trading up 1 spot just to take on that contract doesn't feel right.

Also what are we doing with VJ in this scenario making him the 6th man?

Miller and PG are most definitely starting at the wings. Neither are pf's so that leaves VJ coming off the bench. We trading up 1 spot to take a 6th man?
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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#2010 » by Diop » Tue May 20, 2025 1:10 am

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Diop wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:Taking on the PG contract just to move up 1 spot is crazy.

PG isn't dead, if he could rehab back into shape and we give him a chance to pad his stats, we could be able to move him on
PG is my favorite player lol

I'm just saying trading up 1 spot just to take on that contract doesn't feel right.

Also what are we doing with VJ in this scenario making him the 6th man?

Miller and PG are most definitely starting at the wings. Neither are pf's so that leaves VJ coming off the bench. We trading up 1 spot to take a 6th man?

i think PG can definitely be Pf at this time of his career, that's what he was playing at Clippers wasn't he?
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Post#2011 » by Diop » Tue May 20, 2025 1:12 am

i should mention i'm not totally sold on the idea, im just fleshing it out.
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Post#2012 » by JustBuzzin » Tue May 20, 2025 1:20 am

Diop wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:
Diop wrote:PG isn't dead, if he could rehab back into shape and we give him a chance to pad his stats, we could be able to move him on
PG is my favorite player lol

I'm just saying trading up 1 spot just to take on that contract doesn't feel right.

Also what are we doing with VJ in this scenario making him the 6th man?

Miller and PG are most definitely starting at the wings. Neither are pf's so that leaves VJ coming off the bench. We trading up 1 spot to take a 6th man?

i think PG can definitely be Pf at this time of his career, that's what he was playing at Clippers wasn't he?

He played there some, but it's not ideal to have him banging and having to grab rebounds at his age. I think he was complaining about having to play pf early with the Sixers.

The only reason I like the idea of PG is to mentor Miller and bring some vet leadership. He can still play no doubt, but this trade seems extreme to only move up 1 spot.

Bridges at this point is a better player then PG.
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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#2013 » by Diop » Tue May 20, 2025 1:26 am

JustBuzzin wrote:
Diop wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:PG is my favorite player lol

I'm just saying trading up 1 spot just to take on that contract doesn't feel right.

Also what are we doing with VJ in this scenario making him the 6th man?

Miller and PG are most definitely starting at the wings. Neither are pf's so that leaves VJ coming off the bench. We trading up 1 spot to take a 6th man?

i think PG can definitely be Pf at this time of his career, that's what he was playing at Clippers wasn't he?

He played there some, but it's not ideal to have him banging and having to grab rebounds at his age. I think he was complaining about having to play pf early with the Sixers.

The only reason I like the idea of PG is to mentor Miller and bring some vet leadership. He can still play no doubt, but this trade seems extreme to only move up 1 spot.

Bridges at this point is a better player then PG.

yeah i get it, like i said i wasn't completely sold, just fleshing it out. i would probably want some other compensation as well to make it worth my while. a part of me does like the idea of letting Pg have a redemption arc then trying to cash in, like OKC did with Chris Paul.
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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#2014 » by cornchip » Tue May 20, 2025 1:29 am

JustBuzzin wrote:
Diop wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:Taking on the PG contract just to move up 1 spot is crazy.

PG isn't dead, if he could rehab back into shape and we give him a chance to pad his stats, we could be able to move him on
PG is my favorite player lol

I'm just saying trading up 1 spot just to take on that contract doesn't feel right.

Also what are we doing with VJ in this scenario making him the 6th man?

Miller and PG are most definitely starting at the wings. Neither are pf's so that leaves VJ coming off the bench. We trading up 1 spot to take a 6th man?


I don't think having VJ start on the bench would be a terrible thing. I mean best case, PG plays about 60 or so games at about 30 mins max a night. That leaves plenty of time for VJ to run with the core considering how much you can play the Ball/VJ/Miller/PG/Mark lineup.

And if PG is really that good where you absolutely can't take him out the starting 5, he all of the sudden becomes tradeable again, no?
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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#2015 » by Diop » Tue May 20, 2025 1:33 am

cornchip wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:
Diop wrote:PG isn't dead, if he could rehab back into shape and we give him a chance to pad his stats, we could be able to move him on
PG is my favorite player lol

I'm just saying trading up 1 spot just to take on that contract doesn't feel right.

Also what are we doing with VJ in this scenario making him the 6th man?

Miller and PG are most definitely starting at the wings. Neither are pf's so that leaves VJ coming off the bench. We trading up 1 spot to take a 6th man?


I don't think having VJ start on the bench would be a terrible thing. I mean best case, PG plays about 60 or so games at about 30 mins max a night. That leaves plenty of time for VJ to run with the core considering how much you can play the Ball/VJ/Miller/PG/Mark lineup.

And if PG is really that good where you absolutely can't take him out the starting 5, he all of the sudden becomes tradeable again, no?

We also should all be ready for our rookie to start day 1 off the bench, it's not a ridiculous idea to let whoever get used to the NBA first.
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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#2016 » by Diop » Tue May 20, 2025 1:35 am

Do Philly trade with Utah for Markkanen?

they might be able to pull a future 1st out of Utah as well (they have a few extras up there sleeve to pick from), to make losing number 3 more palatable.
It comes down to how they think Embiid will play this year.
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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#2017 » by JustBuzzin » Tue May 20, 2025 1:37 am

Diop wrote:
cornchip wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:PG is my favorite player lol

I'm just saying trading up 1 spot just to take on that contract doesn't feel right.

Also what are we doing with VJ in this scenario making him the 6th man?

Miller and PG are most definitely starting at the wings. Neither are pf's so that leaves VJ coming off the bench. We trading up 1 spot to take a 6th man?


I don't think having VJ start on the bench would be a terrible thing. I mean best case, PG plays about 60 or so games at about 30 mins max a night. That leaves plenty of time for VJ to run with the core considering how much you can play the Ball/VJ/Miller/PG/Mark lineup.

And if PG is really that good where you absolutely can't take him out the starting 5, he all of the sudden becomes tradeable again, no?

We also should all be ready for our rookie to start day 1 off the bench, it's not a ridiculous idea to let whoever get used to the NBA first.

I wouldn't be mad at the deal. VJ will be a role player anyway imo.

Castle came off the bench for the Spurs so it could work for us.
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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#2018 » by JustBuzzin » Tue May 20, 2025 1:40 am

cornchip wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:
Diop wrote:PG isn't dead, if he could rehab back into shape and we give him a chance to pad his stats, we could be able to move him on
PG is my favorite player lol

I'm just saying trading up 1 spot just to take on that contract doesn't feel right.

Also what are we doing with VJ in this scenario making him the 6th man?

Miller and PG are most definitely starting at the wings. Neither are pf's so that leaves VJ coming off the bench. We trading up 1 spot to take a 6th man?


I don't think having VJ start on the bench would be a terrible thing. I mean best case, PG plays about 60 or so games at about 30 mins max a night. That leaves plenty of time for VJ to run with the core considering how much you can play the Ball/VJ/Miller/PG/Mark lineup.

And if PG is really that good where you absolutely can't take him out the starting 5, he all of the sudden becomes tradeable again, no?
On second thought I could be alright with this deal. Castle came off the bench for the Spurs. We could use VJ as a energy guy at first until he gets ready to become a starter.

PG plays like a all-star and we can ship him off at the trade deadline or even keep him and go for the playoffs if he's playing good enough.
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Post#2019 » by JustBuzzin » Tue May 20, 2025 1:42 am

Not gonna lie and act like I wouldn't be excited either. PG has been my favorite player since his Indiana days. Would be nice to take that 3 hour drive and watch my favorite player at the end of his career lol
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Post#2020 » by Diop » Tue May 20, 2025 1:47 am

JustBuzzin wrote:Not gonna lie and act like I wouldn't be excited either. PG has been my favorite player since his Indiana days. Would be nice to take that 3 hour drive and watch my favorite player at the end of his career lol

i would insist we sign Jo Ingles though and that they broadcast a practice match where Ingles gets to have a go at him again. :D
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