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2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1261 » by WuTang_CMB » Tue May 20, 2025 1:52 am

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1262 » by RoteSchroder » Tue May 20, 2025 2:03 am

Psubs wrote:If we don't get Rasheer Fleming, I think Yaxel Lendeborg would be an okay 2nd choice, or go with a real C?


Both will be available at 9. Are you vying for a trading for another 1st while dangling Ochai/Gradey or u want to draft them with #9?

I think Yang is a must draft, despite having higher bust potential. He's not a Raptors-type pick though.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1263 » by Psubs » Tue May 20, 2025 2:04 am

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Psubs wrote:If we don't get Rasheer Fleming, I think Yaxel Lendeborg would be an okay 2nd choice, or go with a real C?


Both will be available at 9. Are you vying for a trading for another 1st while dangling Ochai/Gradey or u want to draft them with #9?

I think Yang is a must draft, despite having higher bust potential. He's not a Raptors-type pick though.


I'm just assuming that trading 9 for 13 and 22 is a no-brainer. :lol:

Yes, I would trade Ochai and #39 for a 1st pick in the teens. Would Ochai on his own be enough? I don't think that RJ would fetch a pick in the teens.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1264 » by Indeed » Tue May 20, 2025 2:15 am

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Chicago and Atlanta have the PG(s) to make use of Maluach.
Which is an idea if Maluach is still available at #9, and Atlanta wants to trade up for him.
Otherwise, I think Maluach will be gone at #12
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1265 » by Indeed » Tue May 20, 2025 2:19 am

Psubs wrote:
RoteSchroder wrote:
Psubs wrote:If we don't get Rasheer Fleming, I think Yaxel Lendeborg would be an okay 2nd choice, or go with a real C?


Both will be available at 9. Are you vying for a trading for another 1st while dangling Ochai/Gradey or u want to draft them with #9?

I think Yang is a must draft, despite having higher bust potential. He's not a Raptors-type pick though.


I'm just assuming that trading 9 for 13 and 22 is a no-brainer. :lol:

Yes, I would trade Ochai and #39 for a 1st pick in the teens. Would Ochai on his own be enough? I don't think that RJ would fetch a pick in the teens.


You are not getting a better player in the teens than Barrett.
Do you really think that Dick and Walter can be a better player than Barrett? They will need to work really hard to be at that level, let alone better. You are more comparing Knuppell to Barrett at that talent level, as if Knuppell plans out in the NBA.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1266 » by RoteSchroder » Tue May 20, 2025 2:21 am

Psubs wrote:
RoteSchroder wrote:
Psubs wrote:If we don't get Rasheer Fleming, I think Yaxel Lendeborg would be an okay 2nd choice, or go with a real C?


Both will be available at 9. Are you vying for a trading for another 1st while dangling Ochai/Gradey or u want to draft them with #9?

I think Yang is a must draft, despite having higher bust potential. He's not a Raptors-type pick though.


I'm just assuming that trading 9 for 13 and 22 is a no-brainer. :lol:


Hard to imagine why Hawks would do that. I think they'll probably be looking for big men..with Yang, Beringer, Sorber, Newell, Fleming, Lendeborg..I'm sure they would love two shots at the pie over drafting one of Maluach or Queen at #9

I think Orlando's a better target. They don't have enough roster space. There are also a ton of good PF/C and large wing prospects in the draft and Orlando doesn't have enough playing time to go around as is at those positions (Franz, Moritz, Banchero, Goga, WCJr, da Silva).

We got RJ, Ja'Kobe, Ochai, Gradey at SG. Gotta get a deal done for one of their picks.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1267 » by JCP11 » Tue May 20, 2025 2:25 am

Psubs wrote:
RoteSchroder wrote:
Psubs wrote:If we don't get Rasheer Fleming, I think Yaxel Lendeborg would be an okay 2nd choice, or go with a real C?


Both will be available at 9. Are you vying for a trading for another 1st while dangling Ochai/Gradey or u want to draft them with #9?

I think Yang is a must draft, despite having higher bust potential. He's not a Raptors-type pick though.


I'm just assuming that trading 9 for 13 and 22 is a no-brainer. :lol:

Yes, I would trade Ochai and #39 for a 1st pick in the teens. Would Ochai on his own be enough? I don't think that RJ would fetch a pick in the teens.


I wouldn't do that, the player Ochai is today would go in the top 10 in this draft. There's not even a player of his caliber in the teens in this draft either. Keep him, hopefully his value will increase and if you trade him do it in a package for an established key piece for this team.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1268 » by Rapsfan07 » Tue May 20, 2025 2:25 am

I'm not understanding the love for CMB in this thread.

A 6'6-6'7 wing that doesn't shoot is who people want to take with the #9 pick? Even with Barnes and Mogbo on the roster?

Am I in the twilight zone?
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1269 » by M3tro » Tue May 20, 2025 2:29 am

Tre Johnson/Queen/Kon/Fears

We need offensive ability badly and hopefully one of those 4 is still there at 9.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1270 » by PushDaRock » Tue May 20, 2025 2:31 am

Rapsfan07 wrote:I'm not understanding the love for CMB in this thread.

A 6'6-6'7 wing that doesn't shoot is who people want to take with the #9 pick? Even with Barnes and Mogbo on the roster?

Am I in the twilight zone?


The fit makes little sense and they wouldn't compliment each other at all. He would need to be BPA by a very wide margin and they would have to think CMB is way better than Mogbo and maybe even on par with Scottie's ceiling as a prospect to draft him anyways.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1271 » by Boogie! » Tue May 20, 2025 2:34 am

Psubs wrote:
RoteSchroder wrote:
Psubs wrote:If we don't get Rasheer Fleming, I think Yaxel Lendeborg would be an okay 2nd choice, or go with a real C?


Both will be available at 9. Are you vying for a trading for another 1st while dangling Ochai/Gradey or u want to draft them with #9?

I think Yang is a must draft, despite having higher bust potential. He's not a Raptors-type pick though.


I'm just assuming that trading 9 for 13 and 22 is a no-brainer. :lol:

Yes, I would trade Ochai and #39 for a 1st pick in the teens. Would Ochai on his own be enough? I don't think that RJ would fetch a pick in the teens.


I’m keeping ochai and rj. I’m looking to unload dick asap.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1272 » by Boogie! » Tue May 20, 2025 2:35 am

Indeed wrote:
Psubs wrote:
RoteSchroder wrote:
Both will be available at 9. Are you vying for a trading for another 1st while dangling Ochai/Gradey or u want to draft them with #9?

I think Yang is a must draft, despite having higher bust potential. He's not a Raptors-type pick though.


I'm just assuming that trading 9 for 13 and 22 is a no-brainer. :lol:

Yes, I would trade Ochai and #39 for a 1st pick in the teens. Would Ochai on his own be enough? I don't think that RJ would fetch a pick in the teens.


You are not getting a better player in the teens than Barrett.
Do you really think that Dick and Walter can be a better player than Barrett? They will need to work really hard to be at that level, let alone better. You are more comparing Knuppell to Barrett at that talent level, as if Knuppell plans out in the NBA.


Trade dick for this knuppell guy. Take another flyer on a shooter with more skill
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1273 » by DreamTeam09 » Tue May 20, 2025 2:38 am

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Chicago and Atlanta have the PG(s) to make use of Maluach.
Which is an idea if Maluach is still available at #9, and Atlanta wants to trade up for him.
Otherwise, I think Maluach will be gone at #12


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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1274 » by Tripod » Tue May 20, 2025 2:41 am

Why do people want an offensive guy with little defense at 9?

RJ is that type of guy and some can't wait to move him.

To me, obviously I hope MU and them find the next star who is available at 9, but if not, 2-way players are the way to go. Not only do they help you win at both ends but typically make less money on contract #2 due to lower PPG totals.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1275 » by PhilBlackson » Tue May 20, 2025 2:41 am

I'm not sure if anyone has already mentioned it in this thread but I had a KOC clip playing on in the background as I was cleaning up my place and I could've sworn he said that Queen changed his shot mechanics and due to that his shot looks waaaay off. I know I've been reppin him but if that's the case then I'm out until I hear differently...I don't care about any of the athletic testing numbers because I love his bball IQ but if he can't shoot at all then he's basically Poeltl without the rim protection and that is obv not a great outcome.

With that being the case, that probably puts Maluach to the top of my board.

Said it so many times before that I don't think our FO will seriously consider Fears with the money they just shelled out to IQ (esp since they would never get back equal value in a trade - at least yet) and Shead is firmly in the backup spot. I'm just buying Khaman's potential with our ability to develop and the more I see of his jumper, open gym or not -- mechanically it looks pretty damn great to me and fluid for a big when in combination with his great touch around the basket and good FT%, I just believe that jumper will stick. If they add anything else, that's just gravy and would obv have great potential with probably THE best of fit of anyone in this draft on our roster .

BUT I don't think Khaman is gonna be available when we draft unless we find a way to move a couple spots (which I don't think will happen) and with that being the case it would be between Bryant or Fleming for me - and it really is a bit of a coin toss because I think CB has higher offensive potential but Fleming's size and versatility could have a really underrated impact on our team overall. I don't like CMB (especially) & Noa's lack of shooting and I think Kon is a very solid guard, could be a slightly bigger Bane type of player which is obv a great return but personally if you asked me would I rather have a slightly bigger Bane or an OG with more offensive upside, I'll take the later personally. I want to believe in Demin again and I'm really not sure how I'd feel about drafting him but I do like him ahead of CMB & Noa and especially if our FO took him because then they must believe in his jumper which to me at least mechanically looks the best of those 3.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1276 » by djsunyc » Tue May 20, 2025 2:48 am

if maluach is our guy, masai needs to tell him to stop all workouts immediately
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1277 » by PhilBlackson » Tue May 20, 2025 2:49 am

DreamTeam09 wrote:
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Chicago and Atlanta have the PG(s) to make use of Maluach.
Which is an idea if Maluach is still available at #9, and Atlanta wants to trade up for him.
Otherwise, I think Maluach will be gone at #12


If Maluach is there at 9 he's retiring a Toronto Raptor


I said it awhile ago, I thought Maluach could be a riser (pause) once he gets into individual workouts and honestly idk how GMs are going to watch this 7'2 guy with a NBA body who projects to be one of the bigger, stronger Cs in the league continue to splash 3s AND showing a level of mobility with the ball in his hands....more and more I think he's taken 6 or 7th *sigh.

I think it might be too tough for the teams between 3-5 to pass on more "sure" things but once that's past, I can EASILY see a GM salivating I thinking the hell with it and roll the dice which obv f'ing sucks because I don't think Maluach has superstar potential or anything BUT he could still be a monster if developed right and his fit would be almost seamless. I'm not joking when I say they not only need to make him a promise (which was already rumored) but some sort of under the table stuff to get him to shut his workouts down and/or telling any non-top 5 team to pass on him because I really do think someone 6-8 takes him if that doesn't happen.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1278 » by Godaddycurse » Tue May 20, 2025 2:50 am

djsunyc wrote:if maluach is our guy, masai needs to tell him to stop all workouts immediately


why would he? its in his best interest to get drafted earlier
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1279 » by djsunyc » Tue May 20, 2025 2:51 am

Godaddycurse wrote:
djsunyc wrote:if maluach is our guy, masai needs to tell him to stop all workouts immediately


why would he? its in his best interest to get drafted earlier


i'm implying that maluach wants to come here too and not anywhere else
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1280 » by Godaddycurse » Tue May 20, 2025 2:52 am

djsunyc wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
djsunyc wrote:if maluach is our guy, masai needs to tell him to stop all workouts immediately


why would he? its in his best interest to get drafted earlier


i'm implying that maluach wants to come here too and not anywhere else


sure he wants to come here but he can make alot more money drafted earlier

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