Giannis Thread - On Asking for a Trade - "I am not this kind of guy, they would have to kick me out”.

[Matty]

Stop trolling

[Ron Swanson]

Gotta respect that Raptors fans will never let the Giannis dream die. Even when Scottie Barnes turns out to be nothing more than a Stacey Augmon clone, they're still out here presenting him and BJ from The Righteous Gemstones as the centerpieces in a trade for a superstar lol.

[Matty]

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[Matches Malone]

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[ReasonablySober]

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Windy's one of the only NBA guys I think worth paying attention to. He doesn't really say anything of note here but it's something. Thinks the league is at a standstill until Giannis's move happens. Thinks the Spurs is the team that stands out.

[Frank Nova]

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Windy's one of the only NBA guys I think worth paying attention to. He doesn't really say anything of note here but it's something. Thinks the league is at a standstill until Giannis's move happens. Thinks the Spurs is the team that stands out.

Why is Windhorst one of the only nba guys worth paying attention to? Chris Haynes feels like the only reputable source in this situation. I don’t trust Windhorst or Shams to not just run with a BS story from a 3rd/4th party and turn it into a discussion.

[ReasonablySober]

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Windy's one of the only NBA guys I think worth paying attention to. He doesn't really say anything of note here but it's something. Thinks the league is at a standstill until Giannis's move happens. Thinks the Spurs is the team that stands out.

Why is Windhorst one of the only nba guys worth paying attention to? Chris Haynes feels like the only reputable source in this situation. I don’t trust Windhorst or Shams to not just run with a BS story from a 3rd/4th party and turn it into a discussion.

History. Windy doesn't get stuff wrong and he's measured. Openly admits when he's speculating. Haynes is one of the other guys I'd trust.

[Bernman]

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Windy's one of the only NBA guys I think worth paying attention to. He doesn't really say anything of note here but it's something. Thinks the league is at a standstill until Giannis's move happens. Thinks the Spurs is the team that stands out.

Why is Windhorst one of the only nba guys worth paying attention to? Chris Haynes feels like the only reputable source in this situation. I don’t trust Windhorst or Shams to not just run with a BS story from a 3rd/4th party and turn it into a discussion.

History. Windy doesn't get stuff wrong and he's measured. Openly admits when he's speculating. Haynes is one of the other guys I'd trust.

That's ironic in this situation, cuz Windy claimed Giannis would jump ship before the last extension, then doubled down right after to save fat face.

[ReasonablySober]

Why is Windhorst one of the only nba guys worth paying attention to? Chris Haynes feels like the only reputable source in this situation. I don’t trust Windhorst or Shams to not just run with a BS story from a 3rd/4th party and turn it into a discussion.

History. Windy doesn't get stuff wrong and he's measured. Openly admits when he's speculating. Haynes is one of the other guys I'd trust.

That's ironic in this situation, cuz Windy claimed Giannis would jump ship before the last extension, then doubled down right after to save fat face.

You're remembering wrong.

Always weird to me how people roast people for saying something like "there's a 50% chance [X happens]" and then yelling when they're wrong? Windy left open a 50% chance Giannis would come back and that was before the Lillard trade. Like, that's still a huge percentage.

[Bernman]

History. Windy doesn't get stuff wrong and he's measured. Openly admits when he's speculating. Haynes is one of the other guys I'd trust.

That's ironic in this situation, cuz Windy claimed Giannis would jump ship before the last extension, then doubled down right after to save fat face.

You're remembering wrong.

Always weird to me how people roast people for saying something like "there's a 50% chance [X happens]" and then yelling when they're wrong? Windy left open a 50% chance Giannis would come back and that was before the Lillard trade. Like, that's still a huge percentage.

You're reading it wrong. 50% at best means he was betting on Giannis leaving. Then like I said, he doubled down afterward, and said just because you sign extension, doesn't mean he's not going to be traded at any point.

So I guess if you keep saying something for a number of yrs, eventually it could turn out to be true, after being wrong multiple times prior.

Now he's applying the same reasoning, that the cupboard was bare & things were bleak. But that shows you just how bad faith it is because he even made that case when Middleton wasn't cooked yet, Jrue still here, & they were the 1 seed. I don't know how, as a Bucks' fan, you would side w/ conniving corporate media here who's acted in bad faith to drive Giannis out of Milwaukee since 2019, pre Championship, for God's sake. That's even if circumstances are different and now you could make a better case for it at least.

[Ron Swanson]

Giving Windbag credit for giving the ultimate plausible deniability take (“it’s a coin flip”) is kinda weird. Maybe everyone’s right this time (finally), but none of these dudes get any benefit of the doubt when they’re the ones who have been peddling this same **** for 7 straight off seasons in a row now.

If Haynes drops a tweet a couple days from now saying the meeting went badly or that Giannis is starting to seek other options, then I’ll let the dread set in.

[ReasonablySober]

That's ironic in this situation, cuz Windy claimed Giannis would jump ship before the last extension, then doubled down right after to save fat face.

You're remembering wrong.

Always weird to me how people roast people for saying something like "there's a 50% chance [X happens]" and then yelling when they're wrong? Windy left open a 50% chance Giannis would come back and that was before the Lillard trade. Like, that's still a huge percentage.

You're reading it wrong. 50% at best means he was betting on Giannis leaving. Then like I said, he doubled down afterward, and said just because you sign extension, doesn't mean he's not going to be traded at any point.

So I guess if you keep saying something for a number of yrs, eventually it could turn out to be true, after being wrong multiple times prior.

Now he's applying the same reasoning, that the cupboard was bare & things were bleak. But that shows you just how bad faith it is because he even made that case when Middleton wasn't cooked yet, Jrue still here, & they were the 1 seed. I don't know how, as a Bucks' fan, you would side w/ conniving corporate media here who's acted in bad faith to drive Giannis out of Milwaukee since 2019, pre Championship, for God's sake. That's even if circumstances are different and now you could make a better case for it at least.

Dude the Bucks were betting on him leaving. That's why they acquired Lillard. If they thought the extension was in the bag they probably don't give up their entire future during Giannis's prime.

I know I'm in the minority, but I've never had the opinion that there was this big conspiracy from ESPN and the media to get Giannis to a big media market. The NBA's been fine for decades with some of the best players in Denver, San Antonio, and OKC. Besides, Giannis is an adult with agency. He'll do what he wants.

[rilamann]

Guys like Windhorst have been trying like hell to wish Giannis leaving Milwaukee into existence for damn near a decade.

Hard to believe anyone takes these people serious at this point.

[RiotPunch]

I think it was GAD that mentioned that the Lillard vision was Ryan Hoover's and he had been selling it to Horst for years. Obviously, Giannis signing an extension was a byproduct of the trade, but I think he'd been a target for quite some time, not just some hail mary to get Giannis to sign.

[jschligs]

You're remembering wrong.

Always weird to me how people roast people for saying something like "there's a 50% chance [X happens]" and then yelling when they're wrong? Windy left open a 50% chance Giannis would come back and that was before the Lillard trade. Like, that's still a huge percentage.

You're reading it wrong. 50% at best means he was betting on Giannis leaving. Then like I said, he doubled down afterward, and said just because you sign extension, doesn't mean he's not going to be traded at any point.

So I guess if you keep saying something for a number of yrs, eventually it could turn out to be true, after being wrong multiple times prior.

Now he's applying the same reasoning, that the cupboard was bare & things were bleak. But that shows you just how bad faith it is because he even made that case when Middleton wasn't cooked yet, Jrue still here, & they were the 1 seed. I don't know how, as a Bucks' fan, you would side w/ conniving corporate media here who's acted in bad faith to drive Giannis out of Milwaukee since 2019, pre Championship, for God's sake. That's even if circumstances are different and now you could make a better case for it at least.

Dude the Bucks were betting on him leaving. That's why they acquired Lillard. If they thought the extension was in the bag they probably don't give up their entire future during Giannis's prime.

I know I'm in the minority, but I've never had the opinion that there was this big conspiracy from ESPN and the media to get Giannis to a big media market. The NBA's been fine for decades with some of the best players in Denver, San Antonio, and OKC. Besides, Giannis is an adult with agency. He'll do what he wants.

In my opinion they wanted to bring Dame here to pair with Giannis because on paper that duo should've been unstoppable assuming Midds stayed somewhat healthy. They botched it when they brought in Griffin and then Doc.

[Bernman]

Dude the Bucks were betting on him leaving. That's why they acquired Lillard. If they thought the extension was in the bag they probably don't give up their entire future during Giannis's prime.

No, Giannis publicly complained about teammates not being bought in as much as him, after Jrue contemplated retirement. Also, it was the 3rd yr of Jrue posting sub 50% of ts shooting in the playoffs, while coming off being owned by Jimmy. It was time.

I know I'm in the minority, but I've never had the opinion that there was this big conspiracy from ESPN and the media to get Giannis to a big media market. The NBA's been fine for decades with some of the best players in Denver, San Antonio, and OKC. Besides, Giannis is an adult with agency. He'll do what he wants.

Sure, they only inexplicably started doing it in '19 already when Giannis was mid 20's and we were a 1 seed a shot away from the finals/championship. Have done it off-on for 6 yrs since. Said the Luka trade to LA saved (them) the NBA season! That was all amid criticism over ratings. The Bucks haven't pulled #'s in spite of Giannis being here.

[ReasonablySober]

Dude the Bucks were betting on him leaving. That's why they acquired Lillard. If they thought the extension was in the bag they probably don't give up their entire future during Giannis's prime.

No, Giannis publicly complained about teammates not being bought in as much as him, after Jrue contemplated retirement. Also, it was the 3rd yr of Jrue posting sub 50% of ts shooting in the playoffs, while coming off being owned by Jimmy. It was time.

I know I'm in the minority, but I've never had the opinion that there was this big conspiracy from ESPN and the media to get Giannis to a big media market. The NBA's been fine for decades with some of the best players in Denver, San Antonio, and OKC. Besides, Giannis is an adult with agency. He'll do what he wants.

Sure, they only inexplicably started doing it in '19 already when Giannis was mid 20's and we were a 1 seed a shot away from the finals/championship. Have done it off-on for 6 yrs since. Said the Luka trade to LA saved (them) the NBA season! That was all amid criticism over ratings. The Bucks haven't pulled #'s in spite of Giannis being here.

Why do you care if some loud media voices yell about Giannis needing to get out? Who gives a **** about what Stephen A. Smith has to say? Or if Windy thinks there's a 40% chance Giannis leaves? It means absolutely nothing. He's played 12 seasons in Milwaukee with a bunch of debate TV folks putting him somewhere else. It hasn't happened. So stop being bothered about the big bad media. If and when Giannis wants to leave it'll be because he wants to go.

[Bernman]

Why do you care if some loud media voices yell about Giannis needing to get out? Who gives a **** about what Stephen A. Smith has to say? Or if Windy thinks there's a 40% chance Giannis leaves? It means absolutely nothing. He's played 12 seasons in Milwaukee with a bunch of debate TV folks putting him somewhere else. It hasn't happened. So stop being bothered about the big bad media. If and when Giannis wants to league it'll be because he wants to go.

It's not pundits like Screamin' A. It was so-called reporters. 1st it was Malika Andrews, then Windbag, now Scams the last year since they signed him. Media does have influence whether you like it or not. They're pressuring him out/driving prices down. That's why to care. Also the principle.

And you know Windbag didn't say 40% chance he leaves from the article you provided. It said 50% chance he stays at best. That meant more like 40% he stays, 60 he leaves. His reporting was he'd leave. It was wrong. Come correct.

[ReasonablySober]

Why do you care if some loud media voices yell about Giannis needing to get out? Who gives a **** about what Stephen A. Smith has to say? Or if Windy thinks there's a 40% chance Giannis leaves? It means absolutely nothing. He's played 12 seasons in Milwaukee with a bunch of debate TV folks putting him somewhere else. It hasn't happened. So stop being bothered about the big bad media. If and when Giannis wants to league it'll be because he wants to go.

It's not pundits like Screamin' A. It was so-called reporters. 1st it was Malika Andrews, then Windbag, now Shams the last year since they signed him. Media does have influence whether you like it or not. They're pressuring him out/driving prices down. That's why to care. Also the principle.

And you know Windbag didn't say 40% chance he leaves from the article you provided. It said 50% chance he stays at best. That means more like 40% he stays, 60 he leaves. His reporting was he'd leave. Come correct.

Does Giannis seem like the kind of person who's going to be pressured by the media to choose where he plays basketball? Because I don't think he would even entertain the thought.

Also you're awful at math. "40% he stays" is a huge percentage. You're like the people who thought they were dunking on Nate Silver for saying Hilary had a 71% chance of winning, as if it was 100%. One in three is still huge! So is 40%. Windy isn't remotely close to saying Giannis is leaving.

[MickeyDavis]

The media is certainly NOT going to "pressure" him to leave. That's absurd. Giannis to Horst: "a bunch of media guys are pressuring me to leave and I can't take it anymore. Trade me". If/when he decides to leave some day the one thing that will have zero to do with it is the media.