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Post#301 » by Bernman » Mon May 19, 2025 10:44 pm

EasyE31 wrote:Any prospects to like that will be in the Bucks range at 47?

I'm intrigued with Hansen Yang....


TBH, if there were, they in all likelihood wouldn't last that long. This draft & others see a precipitous drop by the 40's. So imo we should trade up or out. I'd flip Ajax & 47 to get into the 30's & draft someone who's more what was aimed at when taking Ajax, like Sion James.

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Post#302 » by jschligs » Tue May 20, 2025 3:48 am

Man, for whatever reason I'm intrigued by Carter Bryant. What I don't like is he's moving up the draft boards making him virtually unobtainable.
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Post#304 » by Ron Swanson » Tue May 20, 2025 1:16 pm

Miles Byrd
Sion James
Cedric Coward
Drake Powell

One of those guys should be available in the mid-late 2nd. I could probably be convinced in taking a swing on Hansen Yang at this point. If dude really is 19 (where have we heard that before?), he's got elite feel and footwork for a 19-year old.
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Post#305 » by Frank Nova » Tue May 20, 2025 2:05 pm

Coward won’t be there at 47. I’d put the likelihood of that less that 1%.
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Post#306 » by Ron Swanson » Tue May 20, 2025 2:21 pm

No idea. He probably goes late-1st/early-2nd but much weirder things have happened (see: Ajay Mitchell, Kevin McCullar just last draft). ESPN and B/R have him at 30 and 25 respectively. Tankathon has him at #48. SI has him going 16, but they also have Kalkbrenner going to us at 47, which would be awesome but I think has an equally ridiculous chance of happening. The draft ranges for these guys once you get past the Top-10 seem all over the place right now.
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Post#307 » by mattg » Tue May 20, 2025 2:23 pm

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I got lightly roasted for having Knueppel 4th on my board but again, he's got the high floor thing going in a light light year. High odds he's a 10 year two way plus starter.

RE: Bailey

As someone else pointed out I'm skeptical on both him and to a lesser degree Harper. How do you pair those two together and have a losing record? Big time scarlet flag (see what I did there?)

The consensus #1 center is someone I can see struggling to average double digit points in the league.


Knueppel's got that freaky Andre Miller gene where he can get a step on seemingly anybody despite being having very little explosion. Really solid, functional handle and uses his body and feet extremely well. He could be like a healthy Brogdon with a high shot release. That's a very, very good player. Not the kind of player that typically goes top 5, but the kind who justifies the pick wherever it is.


I just wish he had Joe Ingles size. White Devin Booker with better passing and hard nosed defense? Idk

Kon doesn't have near the athletic or on-call creation juice of Booker. Like it's not remotely close. Kon doesn't project as a shot creator at all IMO. He has literally no ability make off the dribble jumpers AND he outright refuses to attempt them his entire life at every level of play, it's just not his game at all. He would refuse to shoot them in HS and would refuse to even try and create offense the few times his absurdly stacked team was in trouble. Also never been a big time volume guy. Kon is entirely an in the flow offensive player. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but I feel like people need to keep that in mind when projecting him.

Kon is going to be a solid NBA player for a decade, but I feel like people who think he's going to be some high level creator and offensive hub are going to be very disappointed.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#308 » by Frank Nova » Tue May 20, 2025 2:27 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:No idea. He probably goes late-1st/early-2nd but much weirder things have happened (see: Ajay Mitchell, Kevin McCullar just last draft). ESPN and B/R have him at 30 and 25 respectively. Tankathon has him at #48. SI has him going 16, but they also have Kalkbrenner going to us at 47, which would be awesome but I think has an equally ridiculous chance of happening. The draft ranges for these guys once you get past the Top-10 seem all over the place right now.


Not that I’m disagreeing but there’s lotto buzz around Coward now. I think this draft is littered with below average NBA talent past 15guys or so but that’s the exact reason a team is gonna take a shot on Coward early. His measurables a lone are gonna be too desirable for teams to pass on at mid 1st round at the latest imo.
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Post#309 » by Matches Malone » Tue May 20, 2025 2:36 pm

I think Coward will generate even more buzz as the weeks progress. Think he's got a chance to be another one of those mid-major draft risers ala Jalen Williams a few years back. Still relatively young for being a senior. Teams will find him appealing in round 1.

I wish Horst could just trick a playoff team into thinking Kuzma would be a better option than a rookie and trade him for a late 1.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#310 » by machu46 » Tue May 20, 2025 2:49 pm

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EasyE31 wrote:Any prospects to like that will be in the Bucks range at 47?

I'm intrigued with Hansen Yang....


TBH, if there were, they in all likelihood wouldn't last that long. This draft & others see a precipitous drop by the 40's. So imo we should trade up or out. I'd flip Ajax & 47 to get into the 30's & draft someone who's more what was aimed at when drafting Ajax, like Sion James or Jamir Watkins.





Jamir Watkins was one of my guys this time last year when his name was still in the draft. Would love to pick him up. Believe he's still contemplating returning to college but we'll see.
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Post#311 » by CharityStripe34 » Tue May 20, 2025 2:56 pm

All I know is that Horst better find a diamond in the rough. Overdue for one.
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Post#312 » by emunney » Tue May 20, 2025 3:01 pm

Matches Malone wrote:I think Coward will generate even more buzz as the weeks progress. Think he's got a chance to be another one of those mid-major draft risers ala Jalen Williams a few years back. Still relatively young for being a senior. Teams will find him appealing in round 1.

I wish Horst could just trick a playoff team into thinking Kuzma would be a better option than a rookie and trade him for a late 1.


I'm sure we'd have to take on some salary but what are the chances the player attached to it would be worse than Kuz was? I don't even think Kuz could be much worse than Kuz was.

Would you do Kuz for Patrick Williams and 12? I honestly am not sure I would
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#313 » by Frank Nova » Tue May 20, 2025 3:06 pm

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Matches Malone wrote:I think Coward will generate even more buzz as the weeks progress. Think he's got a chance to be another one of those mid-major draft risers ala Jalen Williams a few years back. Still relatively young for being a senior. Teams will find him appealing in round 1.

I wish Horst could just trick a playoff team into thinking Kuzma would be a better option than a rookie and trade him for a late 1.


I'm sure we'd have to take on some salary but what are the chances the player attached to it would be worse than Kuz was? I don't even think Kuz could be much worse than Kuz was.

Would you do Kuz for Patrick Williams and 12? I honestly am not sure I would


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Post#314 » by Matches Malone » Tue May 20, 2025 3:13 pm

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Matches Malone wrote:I think Coward will generate even more buzz as the weeks progress. Think he's got a chance to be another one of those mid-major draft risers ala Jalen Williams a few years back. Still relatively young for being a senior. Teams will find him appealing in round 1.

I wish Horst could just trick a playoff team into thinking Kuzma would be a better option than a rookie and trade him for a late 1.


I'm sure we'd have to take on some salary but what are the chances the player attached to it would be worse than Kuz was? I don't even think Kuz could be much worse than Kuz was.

Would you do Kuz for Patrick Williams and 12? I honestly am not sure I would


I think I might pull the trigger on that. Williams contract is a boat anchor, and his injuries have killed any momentum he had going, but still only 23 and when he's on, he looks way more impactful than Kuzma, especially defensively. But... that's a big if to stay healthy. Having a lottery pick could really help whether we use it to draft a player or trade it to get another established piece for Giannis. I think I'd take the unknown over another year of Kuzma spazzing up and down the court.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#315 » by jschligs » Tue May 20, 2025 3:20 pm

I want no part of Patrick Williams. Adds an extra 2 years at 18m for a guy who can hardly get on the court. Even for 12. I just don't see this draft as being very strong outside of the top 5 or so.
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Post#316 » by machu46 » Tue May 20, 2025 3:26 pm

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Matches Malone wrote:I think Coward will generate even more buzz as the weeks progress. Think he's got a chance to be another one of those mid-major draft risers ala Jalen Williams a few years back. Still relatively young for being a senior. Teams will find him appealing in round 1.

I wish Horst could just trick a playoff team into thinking Kuzma would be a better option than a rookie and trade him for a late 1.


I'm sure we'd have to take on some salary but what are the chances the player attached to it would be worse than Kuz was? I don't even think Kuz could be much worse than Kuz was.

Would you do Kuz for Patrick Williams and 12? I honestly am not sure I would


Man the annual cost for Pat isn't insanely brutal or anything but holy cow four more years including the player option? Absolutely insane contract.

At any rate, I actually quite like the prospects that are projected to be available at 12 so I'd think long and hard about it personally. Looking at guys that are being projected to go around 10-15 in the draft, I'd gladly take any of Kasparas Jakucionis, Derrik Queen, Carter Bryant, Egor Demin, Nolan Traore, etc. Even someone that I don't think is necessarily a great fit for all teams like Jase Richardson would probably be a really nice fit for us.

My hunch is that our front office still believes in Kuzma enough that they'll opt to keep him over what they perceive as selling low (and to be fair, I do expect him to be better next season than he was this year, almost by default lol).
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#317 » by emunney » Tue May 20, 2025 3:30 pm

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Matches Malone wrote:I think Coward will generate even more buzz as the weeks progress. Think he's got a chance to be another one of those mid-major draft risers ala Jalen Williams a few years back. Still relatively young for being a senior. Teams will find him appealing in round 1.

I wish Horst could just trick a playoff team into thinking Kuzma would be a better option than a rookie and trade him for a late 1.


I'm sure we'd have to take on some salary but what are the chances the player attached to it would be worse than Kuz was? I don't even think Kuz could be much worse than Kuz was.

Would you do Kuz for Patrick Williams and 12? I honestly am not sure I would


Man the annual cost for Pat isn't insanely brutal or anything but holy cow four more years including the player option? Absolutely insane contract.

At any rate, I actually quite like the prospects that are projected to be available at 12 so I'd think long and hard about it personally. Looking at guys that are being projected to go around 10-15 in the draft, I'd gladly take any of Kasparas Jakucionis, Derrik Queen, Carter Bryant, Egor Demin, Nolan Traore, etc. Even someone that I don't think is necessarily a great fit for all teams like Jase Richardson would probably be a really nice fit for us.

My hunch is that our front office still believes in Kuzma enough that they'll opt to keep him over what they perceive as selling low (and to be fair, I do expect him to be better next season than he was this year, almost by default lol).


I like CMB, Saraf, Fleming, Theiro, Coward as justifiable picks at 12. I think if I could make this a 3 way where OKC overpays to trade up for consolidation, I'd do it.
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Post#318 » by machu46 » Tue May 20, 2025 3:40 pm

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I'm sure we'd have to take on some salary but what are the chances the player attached to it would be worse than Kuz was? I don't even think Kuz could be much worse than Kuz was.

Would you do Kuz for Patrick Williams and 12? I honestly am not sure I would


Man the annual cost for Pat isn't insanely brutal or anything but holy cow four more years including the player option? Absolutely insane contract.

At any rate, I actually quite like the prospects that are projected to be available at 12 so I'd think long and hard about it personally. Looking at guys that are being projected to go around 10-15 in the draft, I'd gladly take any of Kasparas Jakucionis, Derrik Queen, Carter Bryant, Egor Demin, Nolan Traore, etc. Even someone that I don't think is necessarily a great fit for all teams like Jase Richardson would probably be a really nice fit for us.

My hunch is that our front office still believes in Kuzma enough that they'll opt to keep him over what they perceive as selling low (and to be fair, I do expect him to be better next season than he was this year, almost by default lol).


I like CMB, Saraf, Fleming, Theiro, Coward as justifiable picks at 12. I think if I could make this a 3 way where OKC overpays to trade up for consolidation, I'd do it.


I thought I had included CMB in my list but yeah, he's definitely in there too for me.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#319 » by Bernman » Tue May 20, 2025 3:43 pm

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EasyE31 wrote:Any prospects to like that will be in the Bucks range at 47?

I'm intrigued with Hansen Yang....


TBH, if there were, they in all likelihood wouldn't last that long. This draft & others see a precipitous drop by the 40's. So imo we should trade up or out. I'd flip Ajax & 47 to get into the 30's & draft someone who's more what was aimed at when drafting Ajax, like Sion James or Jamir Watkins.





Jamir Watkins was one of my guys this time last year when his name was still in the draft. Would love to pick him up. Believe he's still contemplating returning to college but we'll see.


I watched some defensive clips from Watkins after the combine, & I'm decidedly less high on the d now. In the combine he really swarmed Pettiford fullcourt. But maybe that was just a conducive style and match-up. Part of the issue drawing conclusions from smaller samples.

When it's expanded to the halfcourt, different match-ups, you see he's biting on pump fakes, reactive on drives & losing his balance A LOT. For a guy whose calling card is d, that's scary. So now I'm apprehensive. Would definitely much rather have James. I saw him from checking out Flagg & his combine games. He's unequivocally a strong defender, & he has a reliable outside shot unlike Watkins. James shot 49% on catch & shoot 3's.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#320 » by JonHeist » Tue May 20, 2025 9:49 pm

fwiw coward will 100% be at duke next year without a first round promise (which I think he will get and deserves)

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