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[GHOSTofSIKMA]

jrue is overpaid but not a bad contract. hes in that territory of like harden or kyrie. is it stats or winning?

Nah, he's a bad contract.

but hes not. for boston he probably is. but not for us.

kuzma and patc are bad contracts. if we traded those two for him wed be instantly better like a mfer. we literally may have beat indy dame or not if we could have made that trade at the deadline instead

edit.... just read all the other posts. you guys are a hopeless bunch.

jrues a winner and hes healthy. yeah hes old and slowing down but jrues a winner. you trade bad contracts for jrue you get better. that means if hes a bad contract then hes better than most bad contracts

[ShootingtheJ]

jrue is overpaid but not a bad contract. hes in that territory of like harden or kyrie. is it stats or winning?

Nah, he's a bad contract.

but hes not. for boston he probably is. but not for us.

kuzma and patc are bad contracts. if we traded those two for him wed be instantly better like a mfer. we literally may have beat indy dame or not if we could have made that trade at the deadline instead

Gary Trent and AJ Green had a better playoff seasons than Jrue.

[PG Graveyard]

If OKC wants Giannis it’s going to take Chet and JW plus. Those guys aren’t in the same planet as Giannis.

[BigO]

We're not "spending" any money this offseason on anyone no matter what you do because what would be the point just to dump the 2031 1st for cap space in order to spend on mid-level free agents? This actually frees up max cap space next offseason because you only have Giannis and Jrue on the books for 2026-27. That's a roster that's just competitive enough to keep Giannis content and you at least get some draft assets in return.

So we have Giannis and Jrue after next season and this is going to be an incentive for Giannis to stay? And we no longer have the '31 pick, but two throw away picks?

I can't think of a worse roster for Giannis to base a decision on whether to stay or not.

[tedbrogen]

We're not "spending" any money this offseason on anyone no matter what you do because what would be the point just to dump the 2031 1st for cap space in order to spend on mid-level free agents? This actually frees up max cap space next offseason because you only have Giannis and Jrue on the books for 2026-27. That's a roster that's just competitive enough to keep Giannis content and you at least get some draft assets in return.

I don't think you're realizing how many worthwhile players will be given away this offseason because of apron restraints.

Yeah, it's almost like Boston is a team that will probably be giving away guys like Jrue and Porzingis....

Guess everyone is forgetting that Jrue and KP were just key role players that put Boston over the top last season. I understand why, they had six starters so it’s tough to keep track of them all.

[Dick Tate]

We're not "spending" any money this offseason on anyone no matter what you do because what would be the point just to dump the 2031 1st for cap space in order to spend on mid-level free agents? This actually frees up max cap space next offseason because you only have Giannis and Jrue on the books for 2026-27. That's a roster that's just competitive enough to keep Giannis content and you at least get some draft assets in return.

I don't think you're realizing how many worthwhile players will be given away this offseason because of apron restraints.

Wouldn’t apron teams be seeking out deals with teams that had team options vs player options? How can the Bucks help these teams?

[th87]

one top pick now with 10 picks later regardless of position 1st and 2nd round.... and salry matching guys that are net positives..... is a stupid good reset

wed literally be better next year than we just were if we flipped all those picks in 3 ways for ballers.

Absolutely crazy to type this out. I get that you're a pretty extreme Giannis critic, but there's a zero percent chance we're a better team next season with rookies and whatever salary filler we get back in a Giannis trade. Some of you guys love to play asset-manager a little too much and are in for a rude awakening of what life without a mega-star player and rooting for 19-20 year olds is like. The rebuild might be worth it eventually, but make no mistake, these next 2-3 years at a minimum are gonna be absolutely brutal.

id agree.... that was a reach to say it carte blanche. depends heavily on the package. we sucked this year tho so dont act like im crazy. we were in a race with the **** pistons and without the finish were flirting with .500. lets be real here. we are a really nothing team with maybe a last hail mary left

make the right deal and get some depth to our action we could literally improve. **** bobby portis stretching the floor at the 4 with a 20/10 season and an entire new lockerrom around him....hmmm

The gap between us and the current ECF participant is an idiot spotting them 15 points every game and running offense for Luzma.

And now a rival just fell out of contention and will become desperate soon.

[th87]

I guess one thing to note after looking at a quick summary on the upcoming swaps. If MKE were to trade Giannis and be bad next year, NOP also seems likely to bad. So even in a swap you're likely just losing a few spots. Heck, MKE could be bad and NO is even worse. The 28 is more complicated, but teams involved being Por and WAS both seem good chances of also being poor. That one is confusing with a lot of moving parts though. 27 is the risky one. 29 and beyond of course are too, but if you can't make yourself competent in 3 years well then you kind of deserve to take your lumps

Exactly my point too. Those swaps are basically worthless *unless* we end up in the lottery and it's rigged to move us up to then surrender the pick.

Which is why we'd need to pull out all the stops to get into the playoffs. It shouldn't be too difficult in the East.

[th87]

Probably also fair to point out that Dame missed nearly 30-games this season. But I don't know what you're arguing here. Don't think anyone is expecting this team to win 50-games next year even with Giannis. You're the one that's acting like a complete rebuild isn't gonna firmly place us back in bottom-10 lottery territory and I think most people would agree that's a bigger pipe dream than us being a Conference Finals participant next season.

if we traded giannis for the right package of ready made talent we could be comparable. a FTD type of atmosphere with a brunson level guy is what seems to rule this league these days. thats what im arguing. weve underperformed every single season of his career if we didnt have a great system and a loaded roster around him.

if he got hurt midseason pushing like a mf'er with a blown achilles which seems to be the trend it could shift the the outlook of the franchise for decades.

until you see what teams are offering there is no way to argue this point either way with any great authority either. lets wait and see

as stated i love your point about "our picks". they should not be of any additional priority when seeking a package. on that we are of very like mind

Counterpoint. With a Prime Giannis and some possible roster tweaks, not to mention threatening Doc to run contemporary hoops, the Bucks aren't that far from a possible conference finals berth (with luck of course). I mean yeah we had to secure the 5 spot over Detroit but were four wins from the 3 seed as well. It's all relative.

And with teams eager to shed salary who know what may present itself before the deadline? Or even the buyout market.

Either way, if he doesn't ask out just make tweaks and push more toward a pace/space offense. If he does then Yea get the best available offer and make sure it's a haul.

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EXACTLY.

A lot of opportunities arise during the season. No one knew Butler would become available. And we were possibly a toradol/tramadol misread away from acquiring him and destroying the East.

[CharityStripe34]

jrue is overpaid but not a bad contract. hes in that territory of like harden or kyrie. is it stats or winning?

Nah, he's a bad contract.

but hes not. for boston he probably is. but not for us.

kuzma and patc are bad contracts. if we traded those two for him wed be instantly better like a mfer. we literally may have beat indy dame or not if we could have made that trade at the deadline instead

edit.... just read all the other posts. you guys are a hopeless bunch.

jrues a winner and hes healthy. yeah hes old and slowing down but jrues a winner. you trade bad contracts for jrue you get better. that means if hes a bad contract then hes better than most bad contracts

But Jrue having to be the team's 2nd or 3rd option is no bueno for him at this point. Forget the Heat series two years ago, look back at that classic series against Boston in 2022 when if he simply just shot at or near his averages we probably advance and potentially make the Finals (or even just in Game 6!). Then again, it was Miami waiting for us so for all we know Butler would've killed him a year early. If Jrue was a sixth man, you're living rich but even still you can find productive guys like Green and Trent to do something similar and literally shoot a flamethrower.

I love Jrue as he's a consummate professional but he's definitely approaching the end.

[Frank Nova]

Brook for Jon Isaac? Does Orlando entertain that? Isaac is locked up for 4yrs at 15m per according to fanspo. 1+1 15m Brook deal would be the way I suppose? But again, does Orlando entertain that? Carter Jr is locked in, team option for Mo Wagner coming off a major injury and Goga on a small 2yr deal.. idk but just a thought.

[Ron Swanson]

We're not "spending" any money this offseason on anyone no matter what you do because what would be the point just to dump the 2031 1st for cap space in order to spend on mid-level free agents? This actually frees up max cap space next offseason because you only have Giannis and Jrue on the books for 2026-27. That's a roster that's just competitive enough to keep Giannis content and you at least get some draft assets in return.

So we have Giannis and Jrue after next season and this is going to be an incentive for Giannis to stay? And we no longer have the '31 pick, but two throw away picks?

I can't think of a worse roster for Giannis to base a decision on whether to stay or not.

Have you taken a gander at the current roster?

[fan230]

My feeling simply is that no feasible trade will be enough to let Giannis go. It will be the biggest mistake to let him go elsewhere. It will destroy the Bucks as a team for a very long time, will in all likelihood crush the morale of the fanbase, will cause financial harm to the owners for a long time.

Giannis single handedly brings us the possibility of getting to championship contention if the other pieces fit. We have noted, as Jokic mentioned, that the team needs depth rather than another big star. The depth needs to be composed of players with varying skill sets, somewhat like okc or the pacers.

We need a new coach who is able to manage this new look team, certainly not a stubborn, non imaginative coach like Doc who doesn’t even change the lineup till the last game of the season.

So I would prefer a discussion in this forum about how to build such a team around Giannis rather than one which endeavors to think what players to bring in instead of Giannis, the heart of our team.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/briansampson/2025/05/21/no-the-milwaukee-bucks-should-not-trade-giannis-antetokounmpo/

i am in strong agreement with the thoughts expressed in the above link.

i hope there are others in our forum and more importantly in the Bucks organization, who think similarly.

[ReasonablySober]

My feeling simply is that no feasible trade will be enough to let Giannis go. It will be the biggest mistake to let him go elsewhere. It will destroy the Bucks as a team for a very long time, will in all likelihood crush the morale of the fanbase, will cause financial harm to the owners for a long time.

Giannis single handedly brings us the possibility of getting to championship contention if the other pieces fit. We have noted, as Jokic mentioned, that the team needs depth rather than another big star. The depth needs to be composed of players with varying skill sets, somewhat like okc or the pacers.

We need a new coach who is able to manage this new look team, certainly not a stubborn, non imaginative coach like Doc who doesn’t even change the lineup till the last game of the season.

So I would prefer a discussion in this forum about how to build such a team around Giannis rather than one which endeavors to think what players to bring in instead of Giannis, the heart of our team.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/briansampson/2025/05/21/no-the-milwaukee-bucks-should-not-trade-giannis-antetokounmpo/

i am in strong agreement with the thoughts expressed in the above link.

i hope there are others in our forum and more importantly in the Bucks organization, who think similarly.

From the article:

Let’s get one thing clear: No, the Milwaukee Bucks should not trade Giannis Antetokounmpo. Not now. Not next year. Not unless the man himself asks out—and even then, you make damn sure that bridge is burned before crossing it.

That's all we've been talking about. I've been as pro-trade as anyone and even I've said that if Giannis wants to give a verbal commitment to extending 17 months from now, I'll sign up for keeping him.

[soxperry]

If Giannis wants to stay, I can talk myself into a lot. But we have got to get modern. I can live with losing due to lack of skill. I dont think any of us have the appetite for losing due to slow feet anymore. Round out the roster with as many dogs as you can and let's go

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Nah, he's a bad contract.

but hes not. for boston he probably is. but not for us.

kuzma and patc are bad contracts. if we traded those two for him wed be instantly better like a mfer. we literally may have beat indy dame or not if we could have made that trade at the deadline instead

edit.... just read all the other posts. you guys are a hopeless bunch.

jrues a winner and hes healthy. yeah hes old and slowing down but jrues a winner. you trade bad contracts for jrue you get better. that means if hes a bad contract then hes better than most bad contracts

But Jrue having to be the team's 2nd or 3rd option is no bueno for him at this point. Forget the Heat series two years ago, look back at that classic series against Boston in 2022 when if he simply just shot at or near his averages we probably advance and potentially make the Finals (or even just in Game 6!). Then again, it was Miami waiting for us so for all we know Butler would've killed him a year early. If Jrue was a sixth man, you're living rich but even still you can find productive guys like Green and Trent to do something similar and literally shoot a flamethrower.

I love Jrue as he's a consummate professional but he's definitely approaching the end.

yes of course. but im not suggesting he'd be the 2nd or 3rd option. im suggesting hed be a replacement any combination of dame, kuzma and pat c

to replace dame we'd have to give up the 31 pick and probably absorb porzingas with jrue?....but if we simply dumped kuzma and patc in a jrue deal it would be a great move to consider if giannis wants to keep rolling here. obviously if giannis goes out then forget about it.

jrue has slowed down but hes still a winner and a plowhorse. he'd be great to stick in the middle of our young stable of guards for a few years if were still all in. the choices besides him would be alot worse with what we have to offer imo

kpj/rollins
green/trent
jrue/kuzma/patc
giannis/portis
porzingas/sims

im down to roll with that bunch if the numbers worked. maybe it makes sense for boston with tatum and dame coming back around the same time if theyre saving dough

if its jrue for kuzma and pat then geez. what did we even give up?

[MickeyDavis]

if its jrue for kuzma and pat then geez. what did we even give up?

$58 million more in salary. Easy no. Let some other team help Boston fix their $500 million payroll. Jrue in 3 years when he's bought out? Ok. $100 million Jrue now? No. Hell, there isn't much difference between Jrue and Pat now. Pat at $9 million >>>>>> Jrue at $100 million. Don't let sentiments from 4 years ago cloud judgement.

[machu46]

If Giannis wants to stay, I can talk myself into a lot. But we have got to get modern. I can live with losing due to lack of skill. I dont think any of us have the appetite for losing due to slow feet anymore. Round out the roster with as many dogs as you can and let's go

I at least want to watch our team and be impressed with how hard they play. If they're flying around like Detroit, Orlando, Houston, etc. but simply aren't making enough shots to win a series, I can live with it.

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[CharityStripe34]

but hes not. for boston he probably is. but not for us.

kuzma and patc are bad contracts. if we traded those two for him wed be instantly better like a mfer. we literally may have beat indy dame or not if we could have made that trade at the deadline instead

edit.... just read all the other posts. you guys are a hopeless bunch.

jrues a winner and hes healthy. yeah hes old and slowing down but jrues a winner. you trade bad contracts for jrue you get better. that means if hes a bad contract then hes better than most bad contracts

But Jrue having to be the team's 2nd or 3rd option is no bueno for him at this point. Forget the Heat series two years ago, look back at that classic series against Boston in 2022 when if he simply just shot at or near his averages we probably advance and potentially make the Finals (or even just in Game 6!). Then again, it was Miami waiting for us so for all we know Butler would've killed him a year early. If Jrue was a sixth man, you're living rich but even still you can find productive guys like Green and Trent to do something similar and literally shoot a flamethrower.

I love Jrue as he's a consummate professional but he's definitely approaching the end.

yes of course. but im not suggesting he'd be the 2nd or 3rd option. im suggesting hed be a replacement any combination of dame, kuzma and pat c

to replace dame we'd have to give up the 31 pick and probably absorb porzingas with jrue?....but if we simply dumped kuzma and patc in a jrue deal it would be a great move to consider if giannis wants to keep rolling here. obviously if giannis goes out then forget about it.

jrue has slowed down but hes still a winner and a plowhorse. he'd be great to stick in the middle of our young stable of guards for a few years if were still all in. the choices besides him would be alot worse with what we have to offer imo

kpj/rollins
green/trent
jrue/kuzma/patc
giannis/portis
porzingas/sims

im down to roll with that bunch if the numbers worked. maybe it makes sense for boston with tatum and dame coming back around the same time if theyre saving dough

if its jrue for kuzma and pat then geez. what did we even give up?

With no Dame, who would be the second option? KPJ? With that roster he's basically forced into that role.

[BigO]

I don't think you're realizing how many worthwhile players will be given away this offseason because of apron restraints.

Yeah, it's almost like Boston is a team that will probably be giving away guys like Jrue and Porzingis....

Guess everyone is forgetting that Jrue and KP were just key role players that put Boston over the top last season. I understand why, they had six starters so it’s tough to keep track of them all.

Both things can be true.

Jrue and Porzingis were key role players in their championship (add on that they had no real competition in their run to the title) AND

Paying Jrue 100 million dollars when he clearly had a bad year is not a good idea.

I don't get the plan here. I may be missing something long term, but I can't see it.