Around the NBA - 2024-25 Season Continued Again

[offense]

Wolves need to make their open 3s it's really that simple. Lot of open catch and shoot looks.

Randle had some bad turnovers and basically didn't score in the 2nd half until garbage time after a great shooting 1st half. But he was mostly making the right plays other than a few times he really forced it - but can't blame him nobody else was doing anything.

you cant rely on chucking 3's, if its not falling down you need to go inside and have players moving off the ball.

[sol537]

Wolves had a great first half... gotta win against OKC by keeping the scores low and packing the paint. Can't get into a track meet... can't get sloppy with the ball... and can't let SGA/JDub get comfortable in the paint or mid range. They went away from that in the 2nd half.

It was an awful 2nd half from everyone involved including their coach. This series needs more Gobert and Jaden McDaniels and less of their bench guys IMO. OKC's defense is really tough...

[3toheadmelo]

Jesus I thought Melo was pulling old posts.

Justice for Naz??? Today???????? DID YOU SEE HIM **** THE BED YESTERDAY?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He's lucky they ain't sent him to Alcatraz.

Iron right now defending Naz by himself

[Iron Mantis]

Wolves need to make their open 3s it's really that simple. Lot of open catch and shoot looks.

Randle had some bad turnovers and basically didn't score in the 2nd half until garbage time after a great shooting 1st half. But he was mostly making the right plays other than a few times he really forced it - but can't blame him nobody else was doing anything.

you cant rely on chucking 3's, if its not falling down you need to go inside and have players moving off the ball.

This isn't rocket science. Look at the points in the paint differential. 34 point difference?



What are we really doing here? One team was attacking the basket for high percentage points and the 3 was secondary.. the other team went fake-Celtics.

[kNicksGmen]

Wolves need to make their open 3s it's really that simple. Lot of open catch and shoot looks.

Randle had some bad turnovers and basically didn't score in the 2nd half until garbage time after a great shooting 1st half. But he was mostly making the right plays other than a few times he really forced it - but can't blame him nobody else was doing anything.

you cant rely on chucking 3's, if its not falling down you need to go inside and have players moving off the ball.

This isn't rocket science. Look at the points in the paint differential. 34 point difference?



What are we really doing here? One team was attacking the basket for high percentage points and the 3 was secondary.. the other team went fake-Celtics.

This is fair and true but OKC packs the paint - driving in isn't going to magically result is positive results. They need to make their open shots to force OKC to change their strategy a bit and stop packing the paint. Randle tried his bully ball in the 2nd half and was swarmed into turnovers when he didn't kick it out to the open man. Edwards tried driving a decent amount and the defense collapsed on him forcing a pass.

It's not really comparable to the Celtics who were chucking ISO and pull up 3s off the dribble against the Knicks. Minny largely got pretty decently open catch and shoot looks off drive and kicks or randle post ups etc.

But even going back to the lakers series, they aren't shooting well so I would agree they have to try something different at some point.

[K_ick_God]

Randle is def hot from 3 but didn't take a single one in the second half did he

His turnovers are pretty deadly

Look he's a talented scorer but also a guy whose negatives are perhaps fatal ... not sure any team with him as a primary option is winning big but you could say the same about KAT ... it isn't proven until it is

It's not personal or some war against melo lol ... but I think Randle is an addition by subtraction player ... I may be wrong but I see him as just a guy who can make tough shots and get hot, but who isn't truly good

Let's compare him to Jalen Williams. A guy I am starting to understand now. He is a grinder. Not that talented, but aggressive and wants to win. Defense is great. Not tons of mistakes or doing too much. Plays a role, really, more than an actual second scorer. He doesn't look as good as Randle on most of his offense. But is he a player you can win with? Seems so

Randle has won plenty of regular season games but that's with good teammates. Before the Knicks he didn't win anything, he's got a history of good statlines. Good statlines is not the same as good player.

[3toheadmelo]

Randle is def hot from 3 but didn't take a single one in the second half did he

His turnovers are pretty deadly

Look he's a talented scorer but also a guy whose negatives are perhaps fatal ... not sure any team with him as a primary option is winning big but you could say the same about KAT ... it isn't proven until it is

It's not personal or some war against melo lol ... but I think Randle is an addition by subtraction player ... I may be wrong but I see him as just a guy who can make tough shots and get hot, but who isn't truly good

Let's compare him to Jalen Williams. A guy I am starting to understand now. He is a grinder. Not that talented, but aggressive and wants to win. Defense is great. Not tons of mistakes or doing too much. Plays a role, really, more than an actual second scorer. He doesn't look as good as Randle on most of his offense. But is he a player you can win with? Seems so

Randle has won plenty of regular season games but that's with good teammates. Before the Knicks he didn't win anything, he's got a history of good statlines. Good statlines is not the same as good player.

You saying all of this cause he lost one game lol

[Iron Mantis]

you cant rely on chucking 3's, if its not falling down you need to go inside and have players moving off the ball.

This isn't rocket science. Look at the points in the paint differential. 34 point difference?



What are we really doing here? One team was attacking the basket for high percentage points and the 3 was secondary.. the other team went fake-Celtics.

This is fair and true but OKC packs the paint - driving in isn't going to magically result is positive results. They need to make their open shots to force OKC to change their strategy a bit and stop packing the paint. Randle tried his bully ball in the 2nd half and was swarmed into turnovers when he didn't kick it out to the open man. Edwards tried driving a decent amount and the defense collapsed on him forcing a pass.

It's not really comparable to the Celtics who were chucking ISO and pull up 3s off the dribble against the Knicks. Minny largely got pretty decently open catch and shoot looks off drive and kicks or randle post ups etc.

But even going back to the lakers series, they aren't shooting well so I would agree they have to try something different at some point.

20 points in the paint? 20???

True, OKC's defense is cold and I'll be the first to tell you that.....but come on.

This playoffs the paint defense has looked this way. OKC's defense has last night's game averaged in to make it 38.8. That's outstanding but there's zero excuse why you should only be held to 20 unless you were settling for outside shots...

And the Timberwolves interior defense was non-existent... 3rd and 4th quarter was an alley oop and dunk party.



Side note.... Indy's defense in the paint looks delicious.

[Guano]

I dont know how I missed this last but jfc, between TnT employing those old haters and ESPN's terrible production i hope nbc can do better

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[3toheadmelo]

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[HEZI]

I dont know how I missed this last but jfc, between TnT employing those old haters and ESPN's terrible production i hope nbc can do better

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Virtual reality replay

ESPN is so trash. Why did this need to be in virtual reality? Like you couldn’t simply use the actual highlights from the game

[Iron Mantis]

I don't like how they're just gifting SGA free throws. That's not basketball. Some of the calls were iffy. But he was living in the paint...

Overall both teams were each called for 22 personal fouls.

OKC shot 26 free throws and the Timberwolves shot 21.

The points in the paint disparity shows which team was really attacking the paint... OKC were overwhelmingly the aggressors when it comes to driving and shooting in the paint.

[K_ick_God]

Randle is def hot from 3 but didn't take a single one in the second half did he

His turnovers are pretty deadly

Look he's a talented scorer but also a guy whose negatives are perhaps fatal ... not sure any team with him as a primary option is winning big but you could say the same about KAT ... it isn't proven until it is

It's not personal or some war against melo lol ... but I think Randle is an addition by subtraction player ... I may be wrong but I see him as just a guy who can make tough shots and get hot, but who isn't truly good

Let's compare him to Jalen Williams. A guy I am starting to understand now. He is a grinder. Not that talented, but aggressive and wants to win. Defense is great. Not tons of mistakes or doing too much. Plays a role, really, more than an actual second scorer. He doesn't look as good as Randle on most of his offense. But is he a player you can win with? Seems so

Randle has won plenty of regular season games but that's with good teammates. Before the Knicks he didn't win anything, he's got a history of good statlines. Good statlines is not the same as good player.

You saying all of this cause he lost one game lol

No, it's just how I feel and have said it way before the playoffs consistently so what do you mean lol. If he keeps winning and finishes his career as a winner, it will speak for itself. But I said it up till now and I'd note, again, that Lakers and Warriors were not a very hard test.

[Guano]

I dont know how I missed this last but jfc, between TnT employing those old haters and ESPN's terrible production i hope nbc can do better

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Virtual reality replay

ESPN is so trash. Why did this need to be in virtual reality? Like you couldn’t simply use the actual highlights from the game

Doing too much for no one's benefit

ESPN's production has really fallen off

[Capn'O]

I don't like how they're just gifting SGA free throws. That's not basketball. Some of the calls were iffy. But he was living in the paint...

Overall both teams were each called for 22 personal fouls.

OKC shot 26 free throws and the Timberwolves shot 21.

The points in the paint disparity shows which team was really attacking the paint... OKC were overwhelmingly the aggressors when it comes to driving and shooting in the paint.

The discrepancy between how they call perimeter players, particularly perimeter players who drive, particularly perimeter players who drive and embellish contact and fouls in the post is unbelievable.

[3toheadmelo]

I dont know how I missed this last but jfc, between TnT employing those old haters and ESPN's terrible production i hope nbc can do better

Read on Twitter

Virtual reality replay

ESPN is so trash. Why did this need to be in virtual reality? Like you couldn’t simply use the actual highlights from the game

Doing too much for no one's benefit

ESPN's production has really fallen off

Thank you espn for trying their virtual reality to prop up Randle!

[Guano]

Virtual reality replay

ESPN is so trash. Why did this need to be in virtual reality? Like you couldn’t simply use the actual highlights from the game

Doing too much for no one's benefit

ESPN's production has really fallen off

Thank you espn for trying their virtual reality to prop up Randle!

just show the play

[spree2kawhi]

Randle is def hot from 3 but didn't take a single one in the second half did he

His turnovers are pretty deadly

Look he's a talented scorer but also a guy whose negatives are perhaps fatal ... not sure any team with him as a primary option is winning big but you could say the same about KAT ... it isn't proven until it is

It's not personal or some war against melo lol ... but I think Randle is an addition by subtraction player ... I may be wrong but I see him as just a guy who can make tough shots and get hot, but who isn't truly good

Let's compare him to Jalen Williams. A guy I am starting to understand now. He is a grinder. Not that talented, but aggressive and wants to win. Defense is great. Not tons of mistakes or doing too much. Plays a role, really, more than an actual second scorer. He doesn't look as good as Randle on most of his offense. But is he a player you can win with? Seems so

Randle has won plenty of regular season games but that's with good teammates. Before the Knicks he didn't win anything, he's got a history of good statlines. Good statlines is not the same as good player.

This is what I’ve been talking about all year. But honestly, I’m not interested in this debate anymore. It’s actually pretty obvious, and those who still claim otherwise don’t seem all in on our success story anyway. I’m not entertaining that anymore, but you’re absolutely right. Randle is a player who (often) looks good on paper. Ultimately, Minnesota goes as far as Ant and Gobert go. But that’s fair, without OG and Bridges, we’re going nowhere either. You need an entire team, and Minnesota does have that. They’re good and so are we.

[iLLSonChandla]

Why is Bob Myers taking shots at the Knicks?

**** is so corny

[HEZI]

So glad we are on TNT and not ESPN. This technology they are toying with is so bad it’s ruined the whole experience. Even the mics they are using to block out the arena noise just makes this feel like a game in the bubble again. This is so bad