Paolo on The Pivot podcast

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In the same interview, Paolo is praising Fultz as being the most helpful and someone he leaned on the most being here. I remember arguing against people saying that Fultz was making Paolo want to leave and doing damage to the team by keeping him on it lol.

[tiderulz]

I already know this is going to come off far more harsh than I am actually feeling, but who cares...

The fact of the matter is Paolo Banchero, while still super young and obviously loaded with potential, has simply not accomplished enough to justify complaining his way out of town at this point in his professional basketball career.

He's not a top 10 NBA player. He's probably not even a top 20 NBA player at this point. He's never even won a playoff series. He simply does not have the stroke right now to pull any sort of nonsense like that.

He's gonna agree to his designated player maximum contract extension just like Franz did and that's gonna be the end of the discussion for a while.

And he's gonna play out *at least* the next 3 years of his contract. And then at that point if things are still crappy? Ok sure, then we can talk.

not because of his play. And that is the issue, in that he is now asking for help for the 2nd time. And he isnt asking for crazy, unobtainable things.

[JoshuaPotter]

I already know this is going to come off far more harsh than I am actually feeling, but who cares...

The fact of the matter is Paolo Banchero, while still super young and obviously loaded with potential, has simply not accomplished enough to justify complaining his way out of town at this point in his professional basketball career.

He's not a top 10 NBA player. He's probably not even a top 20 NBA player at this point. He's never even won a playoff series. He simply does not have the stroke right now to pull any sort of nonsense like that.

He's gonna agree to his designated player maximum contract extension just like Franz did and that's gonna be the end of the discussion for a while.

And he's gonna play out *at least* the next 3 years of his contract. And then at that point if things are still crappy? Ok sure, then we can talk.

I come down directly in your corner on this. I think the concerns are actually absurd and irrational.

To me, this is just a simple case of 2 things can be true at the same time. Paolo is constructively vocal and has a desire to win. That's not the norm. Squandering that is bad.

I get it, when his bag o cash arrives, that buys us time and well have fun seeing him develop. At the same time, he is vocal around the pieces needed to win.

Why is this so aligning with "People" lol.

[Skybox]

I already know this is going to come off far more harsh than I am actually feeling, but who cares...

The fact of the matter is Paolo Banchero, while still super young and obviously loaded with potential, has simply not accomplished enough to justify complaining his way out of town at this point in his professional basketball career.

He's not a top 10 NBA player. He's probably not even a top 20 NBA player at this point. He's never even won a playoff series. He simply does not have the stroke right now to pull any sort of nonsense like that.

He's gonna agree to his designated player maximum contract extension just like Franz did and that's gonna be the end of the discussion for a while.

And he's gonna play out *at least* the next 3 years of his contract. And then at that point if things are still crappy? Ok sure, then we can talk.

I come down directly in your corner on this. I think the concerns are actually absurd and irrational.

To me, this is just a simple case of 2 things can be true at the same time. Paolo is constructively vocal and has a desire to win. That's not the norm. Squandering that is bad.

I get it, when his bag o cash arrives, that buys us time and well have fun seeing him develop. At the same time, he is vocal around the pieces needed to win.

Why is this so aligning with "People" lol.

yep

He's already rich and under contract...getting richer will not make him a hostage or complacent about winning. The team needs to respect the superstar - it's not even an adversarial situation, necessarily. Hopefully, it's completely on the same page as Weltman (finally)...it's not any kind of threat or "demand" - just reasonable thinking.

[SHAQ32]

Not really concerned about Paolo, the podcast personality. I wanna see Paolo, the basketball player.

[eyriq]

I already know this is going to come off far more harsh than I am actually feeling, but who cares...

The fact of the matter is Paolo Banchero, while still super young and obviously loaded with potential, has simply not accomplished enough to justify complaining his way out of town at this point in his professional basketball career.

He's not a top 10 NBA player. He's probably not even a top 20 NBA player at this point. He's never even won a playoff series. He simply does not have the stroke right now to pull any sort of nonsense like that.

He's gonna agree to his designated player maximum contract extension just like Franz did and that's gonna be the end of the discussion for a while.

And he's gonna play out *at least* the next 3 years of his contract. And then at that point if things are still crappy? Ok sure, then we can talk.

I come down directly in your corner on this. I think the concerns are actually absurd and irrational.

To me, this is just a simple case of 2 things can be true at the same time. Paolo is constructively vocal and has a desire to win. That's not the norm. Squandering that is bad.

I get it, when his bag o cash arrives, that buys us time and well have fun seeing him develop. At the same time, he is vocal around the pieces needed to win.

Why is this so aligning with "People" lol.

Totally agree, Paolo’s “say-it-out-loud” competitiveness is a huge asset, not a problem, and it’s on the front office to harness that urgency while he’s under a fresh max deal. His voice keeps the standards high.

[BadMofoPimp]

I already know this is going to come off far more harsh than I am actually feeling, but who cares...

The fact of the matter is Paolo Banchero, while still super young and obviously loaded with potential, has simply not accomplished enough to justify complaining his way out of town at this point in his professional basketball career.

He's not a top 10 NBA player. He's probably not even a top 20 NBA player at this point. He's never even won a playoff series. He simply does not have the stroke right now to pull any sort of nonsense like that.

He's gonna agree to his designated player maximum contract extension just like Franz did and that's gonna be the end of the discussion for a while.

And he's gonna play out *at least* the next 3 years of his contract. And then at that point if things are still crappy? Ok sure, then we can talk.

I come down directly in your corner on this. I think the concerns are actually absurd and irrational.

To me, this is just a simple case of 2 things can be true at the same time. Paolo is constructively vocal and has a desire to win. That's not the norm. Squandering that is bad.

I get it, when his bag o cash arrives, that buys us time and well have fun seeing him develop. At the same time, he is vocal around the pieces needed to win.

Why is this so aligning with "People" lol.

Funny that every star player on every team says the same things.

[BadMofoPimp]

If Paolo truly wants to win, then he would accept less money to help the "Team" out.

[JoshuaPotter]

If Paolo truly wants to win, then he would accept less money to help the "Team" out.

Did Michael Jordan?

Did Kobe Bryant?

Did Lebron James?

Did Steph Curry?

Did Dwayne Wade?

Did Shaq?

Sorry. If anything the tippy top players are UNDER PAID. Your argument works for people in the Suggs tier, and yes if it keeps up, possibly in the Franz tier. But so far, at least offensively, Paolo is in his own tier and slowly improving.

[BadMofoPimp]

If Paolo truly wants to win, then he would accept less money to help the "Team" out.

Did Michael Jordan?

Did Kobe Bryant?

Did Lebron James?

Did Steph Curry?

Did Dwayne Wade?

Did Shaq?

Sorry. If anything the tippy top players are UNDER PAID. Your argument works for people in the Suggs tier, and yes if it keeps up, possibly in the Franz tier. But so far, at least offensively, Paolo is in his own tier and slowly improving.

I don't see Paolo being in their category. He tries to be by jacking up too many shots this past year as he was trying to earn that Max payday which in effect hurt the team at times.

[basketballRob]

If Paolo truly wants to win, then he would accept less money to help the "Team" out.

Did Michael Jordan?

Did Kobe Bryant?

Did Lebron James?

Did Steph Curry?

Did Dwayne Wade?

Did Shaq?

Sorry. If anything the tippy top players are UNDER PAID. Your argument works for people in the Suggs tier, and yes if it keeps up, possibly in the Franz tier. But so far, at least offensively, Paolo is in his own tier and slowly improving.

Wade and Jordan did. The player's union freaks out if you take less than your market value.

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[KillMonger]

If Paolo truly wants to win, then he would accept less money to help the "Team" out.

Did Michael Jordan?

Did Kobe Bryant?

Did Lebron James?

Did Steph Curry?

Did Dwayne Wade?

Did Shaq?

Sorry. If anything the tippy top players are UNDER PAID. Your argument works for people in the Suggs tier, and yes if it keeps up, possibly in the Franz tier. But so far, at least offensively, Paolo is in his own tier and slowly improving.

Wade and Jordan did. The player's union freaks out if you take less than your market value.

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they took less money eventually but NOT on their first big contract.....or second for that matter iirc

[Knightro]

Paolo shouldn’t and will not take one cent less than his absolute maximum contract.

[tiderulz]

Paolo shouldn’t and will not take one cent less than his absolute maximum contract.

then he shouldnt cry about not having enough around him.

Peyton Manning always had to be the highest paid QB, and lost most post seasons and complained he needed more help.

Brady took less, the team used the money to put a better team on the field and he won more.

different sport I know, but similar idea.

[Skybox]

Paolo shouldn’t and will not take one cent less than his absolute maximum contract.

It's just not even a reasonable topic to discuss...at least until he's looking at his NEXT deal.

Guys are seeing he's 2 years away from "entering" his prime and already suggesting this kind of stuff that only happens with superstars late in their careers, when they care about NOTHING more than rings...even then, they're usually bigger headlines than actual cuts.

The reasoning might make some sense for LBJ, at 40, with probably a billion in the bank (mostly from endorsements) and booming enterprises...to play with his sons and stack a LAL team. Even then, it's unlikely and unreasonable to ask for.

[Skybox]

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In the same interview, Paolo is praising Fultz as being the most helpful and someone he leaned on the most being here. I remember arguing against people saying that Fultz was making Paolo want to leave and doing damage to the team by keeping him on it lol.

Another line on Fultz' resume...

*excellent at deferring
*will stifle massive offensive potential because that's what coach wants from his Lead Guard
*will start shooting the 3 NEXT year
*gracious host and locker room buddy

I'm jk, I actually really really like Fultz, the guy. I supported the experiment 100%. It just failed and went on WAY too long. To be fair, our offense was uglier this year without him handling & distributing & not turning it over- he's better than CoJo right now, but neither is the real answer. We just saw Paolo & Franz take the whole thing into their own hands-because they had to. Fultz is a good PG - just not for this era. I'd happily have him deep in the roster on a vet min, but that's probably an uncomfortable situation for everybody.

[basketballRob]

Did Michael Jordan?

Did Kobe Bryant?

Did Lebron James?

Did Steph Curry?

Did Dwayne Wade?

Did Shaq?

Sorry. If anything the tippy top players are UNDER PAID. Your argument works for people in the Suggs tier, and yes if it keeps up, possibly in the Franz tier. But so far, at least offensively, Paolo is in his own tier and slowly improving.

Wade and Jordan did. The player's union freaks out if you take less than your market value.

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they took less money eventually but NOT on their first big contract.....or second for that matter iirc

Jordan took less early and refused to take less towards the end of his career.

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[KillMonger]

Wade and Jordan did. The player's union freaks out if you take less than your market value.

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they took less money eventually but NOT on their first big contract.....or second for that matter iirc

Jordan took less early and refused to take less towards the end of his career.

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Not on his first big deal, no shot

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[Rainwater]

Paolo was also on the Today show. Seems like he is on a media run.

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[ORLMagicGirl15]

If Paolo truly wants to win, then he would accept less money to help the "Team" out.

Did Michael Jordan?

Did Kobe Bryant?

Did Lebron James?

Did Steph Curry?

Did Dwayne Wade?

Did Shaq?

Sorry. If anything the tippy top players are UNDER PAID. Your argument works for people in the Suggs tier, and yes if it keeps up, possibly in the Franz tier. But so far, at least offensively, Paolo is in his own tier and slowly improving.

I don't see Paolo being in their category. He tries to be by jacking up too many shots this past year as he was trying to earn that Max payday which in effect hurt the team at times.

Paolo was going to get that max contract since before his rookie year ended. He could have been out for the season and we’d still offer him the max. With that said, I cannot see him giving us a discount to get better players. Franz didn’t, Suggs didn’t and I can’t see Paolo doing it.