2025 Draft Thread - Part 2

[Frichuela]

If this is the case, definitely up for trading down and getting an extra asset.

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[tontoz]

Still not a huge fan of Fears. He is too small to get away with being a questionable outside shooter.

I’d be thrilled if someone takes him ahead of us so one of Edgecombe or Johnson falls to us.

That would be ideal but i can't see Philly/Hornets/Utah picking Fears. They need a shooter more than a pg.

[tontoz]

If this is the case, definitely up for trading down and getting an extra asset.

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That would be sweet if we could do it.

[AFM]

We need to package whatever assets we can to ensure we get an engine.

[80sballboy]

Brooklyn has 19, 26, 27 along with 8. I'm only doing that if the player that they like (Johnson?) is gone.

[80sballboy]

Or could the Wiz move up to 3?
https://www.phillyvoice.com/sixers-news-analysis-nba-trade-rumors-mock-draft-brooklyn-nets-washington-wizards-utah-jazz-houston-rockets-atlanta-hawks/

[AFM]

4.) Tre Johnson: really concerned about the stories that there is basically huge gaps in his game, and he could be a classic scorer who has zero effect on W/L's, just empty calorie production, stat-collector.

I don't really think that'll be the case at all. There's an entire video breaking down his playmaking ability:

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When asked what his most underrated ability is, he immediately said his passing.

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The more I watch this kid the more I like him.

[DCZards]

Brooklyn has 19, 26, 27 along with 8. I'm only doing that if the player that they like (Johnson?) is gone.

Agree. If there’s someone at 6 the Zards really like you stay there. If Bklyn offers 8 & 19 at a minimum, and you’re fine with moving down from 6, you go for it. The Nets might also throw in 26 or 27.

At 8 we could probably get Maluach which I’d be fine with.

Gonna check out Fears, but I’m still liking Johnson (or VJ or Bailey) at 6.

[Rafael122]

We're one of the youngest teams in the NBA, are we really trying to add 3-4 more rookies this year?

[The Consiglieri]

Pre-draft lottery, my hope was that we didn’t drop to 6, now my wish is that Utah takes Kon at 5, come-on Utah, let Kon become your consultation prize.

If we stay at 6, my targets are:
1.) Miracle fall of VJ, or Bailey: not happening I know (well, maybe Bailey, one can dream anyway)
2.) Trade Up or out (down for '26 draft assets)
3.) Fears: I'm swinging for upside, praying he can hit 3's, he doesn't turn 19 until basically Halloween, grew the extra inch from June '24 to May '25, maybe hits 6'3.5" to 6'4" if we're lucky by '26.
4.) Tre Johnson: really concerned about the stories that there is basically huge gaps in his game, and he could be a classic scorer who has zero effect on W/L's, just empty calorie production, stat-collector.

Curious about Fears, as of now he doesn't have an NBA trait, and is small so why are we banking on him finding a shooting stroke when Tre Johnson is right there and has that already?

Comps from the Ringer on Fears: Scoot Henderson/Jerryd Bayless/Devin Harris/Jaden Ivey. Meh.

Tre Johnson: OJ Mayo, Michael Redd, Allan Houston, Terrence. Ross.

Tre arguably has a higher upside just for the fact that he can immediately be on the floor and contribute something.

Uggh, just typed a nice response, and it got lost to the netherworld.

I'll sum it up by just saying, dude came out and played a bunch of his best games pre-tournament against the biggest opponents, minus a crappy run against Texas A&M, Alabama, and Georgia, he wrapped with 7 or 8 strong games in his final 10, he took the keys to Oklahoma's offense a few weeks after turning 18, and drove them to the NCAA's, not bad. Has got a great handle, and was young as hell in terms of breakout age and performance. But there's plenty of concerns too, the height concern and size concern might be okay considering his growth over the past 11 months, but the 3 was horrid for the most part, and I had hoped I'd see signs that he started hitting it down the stretch when he had a pile of good and great games to end the season but the reality is that that part of his game was as inconsistent as ever even as his performances improved otherwise.

I've seen comps from the great lol former ringer guy, O'Connor, tongue firmly in cheek, and they were Jamal Murray and lol, Poole, so that's pretty funny in the latter case.

We'll see, for now, the positives are primarily narrative based, mixed with his playmaking, and his age, the scouts seem to really like what he was able to do at so young of an age, and they definitely seem to buy him as a playmaker, its the shot that seems the biggest concern and the size issue that's going away, critique's are fair, I understand I'm betting on nebulous things right now, and hoping I'm right, I'm a big buyer of players that manage to perform well super young, he performed well only in certain particular area's, but the fact that he tended to save his best for bigger opponents is also intriguing. Not sure he'll be there when we pick. Not sure he's the right pick, but he's one of the few guys I think might be worth it at 6, my #1 priority is trading up or out though, losing the lottery made this pick more valuable to me as a trade piece than as something to use at slot.

[TheBlackCzar]

I watched a lot of both Tre Johnson and Jeremiah Fears last night....


The fact that Tre CAN'T get to the rim with any consistency in any set of film I watched on him is really most concerning to me as you're hoping he's going to do exactly what you complained about Bub doing this year... That seems nonsensical.... Fears while not a perfect prospect, has a jumper that isn't broken, and this is why you need to watch him play and not just read stats.... He has very good pacing, can get up and move very quickly, has a wonderful array of finishing moves at the rim, with finger rolls, tear drops, dunks etc.... Even with his sprint scores he's not as fast as Wall, but with the NBA spacing I think he's going to be a terror on the break... He is also a pretty good passer but he can get better...... I mean looking at how he looked at 17 in HS, and how he looks now physically, he jumps much higher, moves even faster and is clearly more explosive now than he was even last season where most of his film is from..... This idea that a CHICAGO PG has to work on their jumper should already be understood by now as many of them have stated, that the reason most have great layup packages is because you don't shoot jumpers in the Windy Chi..... That's why most of those dudes develop that skill in the league, but while I like Tre and think he's definitely a very good shooter, Fears just got more potential to me to be an excellent lead guard, and I'm pretty sure he's going to be better than Edgecomb, so keep hyping that boy up, he's a great athlete, but his game is basic.....

[The Consiglieri]

If this is the case, definitely up for trading down and getting an extra asset.

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Give me their '26 first, and I'd do it. They also have a pile of other firsts in '27. I want a future first to move down, period, and I'm also not gonna execute that deal until draft night and I see what's there at 6.

[The Consiglieri]

Brooklyn has 19, 26, 27 along with 8. I'm only doing that if the player that they like (Johnson?) is gone.

No interest in the later picks. Give me '26 asset(s).

[The Consiglieri]

Or could the Wiz move up to 3?
https://www.phillyvoice.com/sixers-news-analysis-nba-trade-rumors-mock-draft-brooklyn-nets-washington-wizards-utah-jazz-houston-rockets-atlanta-hawks/

Not giving them ANY futures in round 1, period. So case closed there.

[80sballboy]

Or could the Wiz move up to 3?
https://www.phillyvoice.com/sixers-news-analysis-nba-trade-rumors-mock-draft-brooklyn-nets-washington-wizards-utah-jazz-houston-rockets-atlanta-hawks/

Not giving them ANY futures in round 1, period. So case closed there.

Well sure. If we could do it for an 18th and 6th, I'd do it but of course, they'd want another future first.

[The Consiglieri]

Yep, no chance, I don't know if I'd even do it for 6 and 18, I'd do 2 for 6 and 18, but I'm not sure we could find better assets at 6 and 18 combined than we could at 3. I like Edge and Bailey, but I like A TON of guys who will be available at 18,and I don't think I want to drop both those firsts w/o getting '26 assets, or a top 2 pick, and no chance Spurs do that, or Sixers.

Zero chance.

I really don't think they like 3 that much unless Harper falls which would be insane (if the spurs are that stupid, we can end talk of that being a smart franchise post-Pop).

[9 and 20]

Wiz traded up 2 spots in the first round to get Coulibaly, just a couple of years ago. Only cost 2 second round picks. Not expecting too much more than that from the Nets, if it happens. Maybe one of their late first rounders? Or a first next year? Tankathon has Jakuciounus, Kon, Maluach, and Murray Boyles in the range of the #8 pick. Could see us trading down and maybe getting Maluach or Queen. I don't see the Kon fit but maybe if we trade down and he's there, we can engineer another trade down with a playoff team that might want him.

[doclinkin]

Or could the Wiz move up to 3?
https://www.phillyvoice.com/sixers-news-analysis-nba-trade-rumors-mock-draft-brooklyn-nets-washington-wizards-utah-jazz-houston-rockets-atlanta-hawks/

Not giving them ANY futures in round 1, period. So case closed there.

Well sure. If we could do it for an 18th and 6th, I'd do it but of course, they'd want another future first.

We’ve got extra future firsts though. Doesn’t have to be our own.

[dckingsfan]

Still not a huge fan of Fears. He is too small to get away with being a questionable outside shooter.

I’d be thrilled if someone takes him ahead of us so one of Edgecombe or Johnson falls to us.

No disagreement. Unless he continues to grow and that FT% translates to the 3 as he ages.

[Frichuela]

Not giving them ANY futures in round 1, period. So case closed there.

Well sure. If we could do it for an 18th and 6th, I'd do it but of course, they'd want another future first.

We’ve got extra future firsts though. Doesn’t have to be our own.

This. There is POR’s 2029 pick (their second best pick of three) or the late 2026 1st that we got from them on the Butler trade.

Another option is the Paul George 3-year salary absorption trade….