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Pelicans trade AD to the Lakers, and Pelicans get the #1 pick
Mavs trade Luka to the Lakers, and Mavs get the #1 pick
I'm not one of those guys, but come on man. How does this happen? Do a favor for LA and get a reward it seems...
With that said, I'm on the side of making a splash trade for Giannis (and/or Trae). We got a good coach and a core of guys who will fight until the cows come home. Might as well get one of the toughest and meanest SOBs out there in Giannis if we can. Let's roll the dice.
Mavs trade Luka to the Lakers, and Mavs get the #1 pick
I'm not one of those guys, but come on man. How does this happen? Do a favor for LA and get a reward it seems...
With that said, I'm on the side of making a splash trade for Giannis (and/or Trae). We got a good coach and a core of guys who will fight until the cows come home. Might as well get one of the toughest and meanest SOBs out there in Giannis if we can. Let's roll the dice.
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Keith Van Horn wrote:Pelicans trade AD to the Lakers, and Pelicans get the #1 pick
Mavs trade Luka to the Lakers, and Mavs get the #1 pick
I'm not one of those guys, but come on man. How does this happen? Do a favor for LA and get a reward it seems...
With that said, I'm on the side of making a splash trade for Giannis (and/or Trae). We got a good coach and a core of guys who will fight until the cows come home. Might as well get one of the toughest and meanest SOBs out there in Giannis if we can. Let's roll the dice.
the mechanics of cap trades in this new cba have gone beyond me, but here's the closest i can get to figuring out how to thread the needle.
giannis trade built around claxton and cam thomas signed/traded plus obviously picks (and maybe a young guy like clowney). Bucks get 2 young starters and a lead scorer in camT, plus restock a bunch of picks. SAS can probably beat that offer if they include Castle or #2, perhaps Houston can too, but I'm not sure HOU can beat that offer if they aren't putting green or amen on the table which they shouldnt. i think nets have cap room to do a clax + other stuff trade for Giannis, then a seperate s&t of cam thomas into the bucks trade exception if that's what it takes to get the deal done mechanically.
trae is trickier because it is unknown what the cost is there. it could just be salary matching they like. which could include some kind of S&T of a player like Sharpe and then taking the rest of trae back via cap room similar to giannis to give them a big TE.
even if we could snap our fingers and get all involved to do the above, i still have a hard time thinking giannis is pushing for all of that vs going to a more ready made winner like SAS. With Wemby, Fox, and Harper they would be set up not just for now but for the rest of his career.
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Not sure if this trade checker is right, but here are some moves that work. Obviously a Giannis trade would also include a bunch of FRPs. Whitehead and Clowney are interchangeable cap wise, Zaire Williams can be in the deal or not, but to get this accepted he either needs to be renounced by Brooklyn or sent out.
Day'Ron's extension here is also optional, but having traded Clax I think that's a move they'd want to make at a salary as close to his cap hold as possible.

i havent been able to find a version of a Trae follow-up deal that works (or included as a 3rd team). Perhaps there is one, or perhaps they would just extend Russell back for 2 years at half the cost of Trae because that is a better value and he's already a known culture fit. I think that may be the better move, along with using MLE money to poach a Ty Jerome for depth. Schroder reunion could be another option. A guard situation with 2 of DLo, Schroder, Jerome wouldn't be so bad, and strikes me as a more realistic direction for this offseason with or without Giannis.
One other situation to monitor may be FVV - if HOU isn't going to pick up FVV's team option and cant work out an extension, perhaps the Nets could take a run at him by creating max cap space, then execute the Giannis trade above as a follow-up move? He is same age as Giannis and a winner. Perhaps old enough that HOU would balk at a 4*35m extension?

is a line up of:
FVV
CamJ
Wilson
Giannis
Sharpe/Clowney
enough to get Giannis bought in? Presumably they'd have some rookies and maybe be able to make an MLE signing like Jerome. Unfortunately I still find it hard to believe that he'd push for Brooklyn.
I think more realistically for this offseason, Brooklyn brings back some of the veteran guards I mentioned on more friendly deals (DLo, Schroder, maybe a Jerome poach, pie in sky maybe they can overpay FVV and get him here), they will make the 8th pick, and probably bring back CamT/Clax because there won't be any great options to trade them at their values low.
So realistically I see something like this:
DLo / Jerome
CamT / Keon
CamJ / Wilson
Watford / Clowney
Clax / Sharpe
plus the #8 & #19 picks.
if everything went right that could be an improved version of this years team that gets to play in level team in a weaker east. or it could be right back in the lotto with a top 10 pick again next year. they'd have the flexibility to buy in season and make the team better, or sell again to improve the odds in lotto if things aren't working out. if they nail the #8/#19 picks, who knows?
Day'Ron's extension here is also optional, but having traded Clax I think that's a move they'd want to make at a salary as close to his cap hold as possible.

i havent been able to find a version of a Trae follow-up deal that works (or included as a 3rd team). Perhaps there is one, or perhaps they would just extend Russell back for 2 years at half the cost of Trae because that is a better value and he's already a known culture fit. I think that may be the better move, along with using MLE money to poach a Ty Jerome for depth. Schroder reunion could be another option. A guard situation with 2 of DLo, Schroder, Jerome wouldn't be so bad, and strikes me as a more realistic direction for this offseason with or without Giannis.
One other situation to monitor may be FVV - if HOU isn't going to pick up FVV's team option and cant work out an extension, perhaps the Nets could take a run at him by creating max cap space, then execute the Giannis trade above as a follow-up move? He is same age as Giannis and a winner. Perhaps old enough that HOU would balk at a 4*35m extension?

is a line up of:
FVV
CamJ
Wilson
Giannis
Sharpe/Clowney
enough to get Giannis bought in? Presumably they'd have some rookies and maybe be able to make an MLE signing like Jerome. Unfortunately I still find it hard to believe that he'd push for Brooklyn.
I think more realistically for this offseason, Brooklyn brings back some of the veteran guards I mentioned on more friendly deals (DLo, Schroder, maybe a Jerome poach, pie in sky maybe they can overpay FVV and get him here), they will make the 8th pick, and probably bring back CamT/Clax because there won't be any great options to trade them at their values low.
So realistically I see something like this:
DLo / Jerome
CamT / Keon
CamJ / Wilson
Watford / Clowney
Clax / Sharpe
plus the #8 & #19 picks.
if everything went right that could be an improved version of this years team that gets to play in level team in a weaker east. or it could be right back in the lotto with a top 10 pick again next year. they'd have the flexibility to buy in season and make the team better, or sell again to improve the odds in lotto if things aren't working out. if they nail the #8/#19 picks, who knows?
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I dunno with you guys. But in the event thay we trade for Giannis, I'm keeping Cam T. This will allow us to have 2 dynamic scorers, and lessen the pressure for Giannis to carry the offensive load. Cam T just needs to be extended to a reasonable contract, similar to what was given to draftmate Green.
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Plenty of big fish for the taking this offseason
Of course Giannis is the biggest fish,
But a Trae , Zion , Brown/Tatum or whoever are all possible for this Big market team with ample assets to pull a deal off.
Agree with above , keep Cam T with whoever comes unless its Trae.
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Of course Giannis is the biggest fish,
But a Trae , Zion , Brown/Tatum or whoever are all possible for this Big market team with ample assets to pull a deal off.
Agree with above , keep Cam T with whoever comes unless its Trae.
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JoseRizal wrote:I dunno with you guys. But in the event thay we trade for Giannis, I'm keeping Cam T. This will allow us to have 2 dynamic scorers, and lessen the pressure for Giannis to carry the offensive load. Cam T just needs to be extended to a reasonable contract, similar to what was given to draftmate Green.
with camt cap hold and rest of cap space maximized they have $62m, so in theory i think they could take in Giannis and just send out picks.
i have no idea how MIL views CamT, but he does strike me as somebody they could "sell" as a get in return for a Giannis trade. Still just 23 and a 20 ppg player.
I expect Clax to be in Giannis trade as well since he's also young, and the shooting fit next to Giannis would be a challenge. with Giannis rostered his money may be better spent elsewhere for nets and their lineups may be better with shooters who can stretch the floor more than clax (even if it's clowney/sharpe/draft pick).
interesting offseason ahead with lots of ways it could go.
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Rastas wrote:Plenty of big fish for the taking this offseason
Of course Giannis is the biggest fish,
But a Trae , Zion , Brown/Tatum or whoever are all possible for this Big market team with ample assets to pull a deal off.
Agree with above , keep Cam T with whoever comes unless its Trae.
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i know there were rumors of a boston break up but i have to think tatum injury changes things. i cant see them trading brown now, with tatum down. also cant see them trading tatum at what will now be his all time low trade value since he's injured.
the lux tax bill is obviously insane so maybe they are willing to move 1 of holliday or white?
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Netaman wrote:Rastas wrote:Plenty of big fish for the taking this offseason
Of course Giannis is the biggest fish,
But a Trae , Zion , Brown/Tatum or whoever are all possible for this Big market team with ample assets to pull a deal off.
Agree with above , keep Cam T with whoever comes unless its Trae.
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i know there were rumors of a boston break up but i have to think tatum injury changes things. i cant see them trading brown now, with tatum down. also cant see them trading tatum at what will now be his all time low trade value since he's injured.
the lux tax bill is obviously insane so maybe they are willing to move 1 of holliday or white?
They should trade Brown, tank, win the lottery & be good to go when Tatum returns in '26-'27.
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I would actually prefer Jrue to Trae Young
Let’s face it, we aren’t contending next season, he’s a solid pro, 2 way player, cheaper and fits better with Cam T (if he’s still here)
Let’s face it, we aren’t contending next season, he’s a solid pro, 2 way player, cheaper and fits better with Cam T (if he’s still here)
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I don’t want Giannis. I know he’s a great player but tbh I don’t like his game and never liked him. I think he is dirty and his game is based off of throwing his body into people all the time. He is 30 years old and gonna be 31 in December and relies on his athleticism and strength to be great. It’s making the same mistake they made before. Trading youth and picks for an aging star. Same script and it will have the same result. Big hype at first then reality when it doesn’t work.
Let’s face it the nets aren’t winning a chip with Giannis. There is no solid team here just needing that one player to put them over the top.
Build a team. I’m fine with trading draft picks for young players who look promising. Kinda what OKC did with SGA. Clippers made a huge mistake there. Find a guy like that or maybe not a super star like sga but can be developed into a good/allstar type. Go for the rebuild.
Can’t keep doing the same thing over and over and expect a different outcome. Insanity
Let’s face it the nets aren’t winning a chip with Giannis. There is no solid team here just needing that one player to put them over the top.
Build a team. I’m fine with trading draft picks for young players who look promising. Kinda what OKC did with SGA. Clippers made a huge mistake there. Find a guy like that or maybe not a super star like sga but can be developed into a good/allstar type. Go for the rebuild.
Can’t keep doing the same thing over and over and expect a different outcome. Insanity
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Sharcm1 wrote:I don’t want Giannis. I know he’s a great player but tbh I don’t like his game and never liked him. I think he is dirty and his game is based off of throwing his body into people all the time. He is 30 years old and gonna be 31 in December and relies on his athleticism and strength to be great. It’s making the same mistake they made before. Trading youth and picks for an aging star. Same script and it will have the same result. Big hype at first then reality when it doesn’t work.
Let’s face it the nets aren’t winning a chip with Giannis. There is no solid team here just needing that one player to put them over the top.
Build a team. I’m fine with trading draft picks for young players who look promising. Kinda what OKC did with SGA. Clippers made a huge mistake there. Find a guy like that or maybe not a super star like sga but can be developed into a good/allstar type. Go for the rebuild.
Can’t keep doing the same thing over and over and expect a different outcome. Insanity
I feel the same way... The league by virtue of its three-point spamming has moved towards an era where you need 5 guys on the court who can defend and provide some semblance of offense.
Pairing 2-3 great players with scrubs just doesn't work anymore, especially with the recent cap restrictions that were put in place.
Build organically, gather some pieces and then evaluate. .
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Karate Diop wrote:Sharcm1 wrote:I don’t want Giannis. I know he’s a great player but tbh I don’t like his game and never liked him. I think he is dirty and his game is based off of throwing his body into people all the time. He is 30 years old and gonna be 31 in December and relies on his athleticism and strength to be great. It’s making the same mistake they made before. Trading youth and picks for an aging star. Same script and it will have the same result. Big hype at first then reality when it doesn’t work.
Let’s face it the nets aren’t winning a chip with Giannis. There is no solid team here just needing that one player to put them over the top.
Build a team. I’m fine with trading draft picks for young players who look promising. Kinda what OKC did with SGA. Clippers made a huge mistake there. Find a guy like that or maybe not a super star like sga but can be developed into a good/allstar type. Go for the rebuild.
Can’t keep doing the same thing over and over and expect a different outcome. Insanity
I feel the same way... The league by virtue of its three-point spamming has moved towards an era where you need 5 guys on the court who can defend and provide some semblance of offense.
Pairing 2-3 great players with scrubs just doesn't work anymore, especially with the recent cap restrictions that were put in place.
Build organically, gather some pieces and then evaluate. .
For the most part, it's the teams with the strongest weak links that win now, as opposed to the team with the best player. If you have a defensive liability, they're hunted. If you have an offensive liability, they're ignored in favor of double teaming/helping.
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Decipher wrote:I would actually prefer Jrue to Trae Young
Let’s face it, we aren’t contending next season, he’s a solid pro, 2 way player, cheaper and fits better with Cam T (if he’s still here)
Jrue is washed bro. Trae Young is a dynamic scorer and has never played with another elite star.
Think about how open he will be with Giannis getting double teams. Keep Cam J.
Now you just need a few more shooters to compliment those 3 and we are cooking.
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JoseRizal wrote:I dunno with you guys. But in the event thay we trade for Giannis, I'm keeping Cam T. This will allow us to have 2 dynamic scorers, and lessen the pressure for Giannis to carry the offensive load. Cam T just needs to be extended to a reasonable contract, similar to what was given to draftmate Green.
There is no shot the Bucks trade us Giannis without getting Cam back in my view.
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Sharcm1 wrote:I don’t want Giannis. I know he’s a great player but tbh I don’t like his game and never liked him. I think he is dirty and his game is based off of throwing his body into people all the time. He is 30 years old and gonna be 31 in December and relies on his athleticism and strength to be great. It’s making the same mistake they made before. Trading youth and picks for an aging star. Same script and it will have the same result. Big hype at first then reality when it doesn’t work.
Let’s face it the nets aren’t winning a chip with Giannis. There is no solid team here just needing that one player to put them over the top.
Build a team. I’m fine with trading draft picks for young players who look promising. Kinda what OKC did with SGA. Clippers made a huge mistake there. Find a guy like that or maybe not a super star like sga but can be developed into a good/allstar type. Go for the rebuild.
Can’t keep doing the same thing over and over and expect a different outcome. Insanity
Giannis not my favorite player either. But neither was KD.
Gotta take what you can get. Giannis is arguably the best player in the NBA. His stats are insane and hes in elite shape.
And its very hard to rebuild when youre a big market team. Knicks/Lakers/Clippers never do it either.
We don't have 5 years to wait around and hope the lottery Gods bless us while the Knicks keep contending for titles.
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Giannis is still a great player, no doubt about it, but unless we move up in the draft and keep said rookie, and as another low asset cost high level starter to Giannis; and get Giannis on the semi-cheap, I’m not in love with the idea.
As others have said, his game is based on athleticism and physicality and he’ll be 31 early this season.
They passed on Lillard for a reason.
I will say, if you can pull off something where you get him for a Cam T S&T, with Claxton and limited picks, move up to 3 and lighten protections on the ‘27 Philly pick to like top 2 and it eventually has to convey as a first, then I’m all ears.
I’d be open to a Giannis/PG 1-2 punch if you also get that 3rd pick, lightened ‘27 protections, keep the 19th, at the cost of both the Cams, Clax and some but not all the future 1sts.
As others have said, his game is based on athleticism and physicality and he’ll be 31 early this season.
They passed on Lillard for a reason.
I will say, if you can pull off something where you get him for a Cam T S&T, with Claxton and limited picks, move up to 3 and lighten protections on the ‘27 Philly pick to like top 2 and it eventually has to convey as a first, then I’m all ears.
I’d be open to a Giannis/PG 1-2 punch if you also get that 3rd pick, lightened ‘27 protections, keep the 19th, at the cost of both the Cams, Clax and some but not all the future 1sts.

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vincecarter4pres wrote:Giannis is still a great player, no doubt about it, but unless we move up in the draft and keep said rookie, and as another low asset cost high level starter to Giannis; and get Giannis on the semi-cheap, I’m not in love with the idea.
As others have said, his game is based on athleticism and physicality and he’ll be 31 early this season.
They passed on Lillard for a reason.
I will say, if you can pull off something where you get him for a Cam T S&T, with Claxton and limited picks, move up to 3 and lighten protections on the ‘27 Philly pick to like top 2 and it eventually has to convey as a first, then I’m all ears.
I’d be open to a Giannis/PG 1-2 punch if you also get that 3rd pick, lightened ‘27 protections, keep the 19th, at the cost of both the Cams, Clax and some but not all the future 1sts.
good to see you posting, was curious what you were thinking post-lotto. this is generally where im at, and it's why i think SAS ultimately gets giannis. they have so much ammo to beat that and their timeline is better. Wemby is a perfect center with him, Fox is a solid piece too, and then they have vassell, castle, and more.
i too really like the idea of engaging with the 76ers for #3. I'm fine taking back bad money to offset the cost too but that PG3 contract is flat out disgusting, so that would have to be the bulk of the value exchanged. CamJ + #27 for PG3 + #3 and lessening the protections in 2027, im in.
Dlo
CamT
PG3
Clax
5th starter = #3 pick competing with #8 (likely 2 of Bailey/VJ/Kon/Fears/Tre)
that's an interesting enough group for next year plus you've got an interesting lotto 6th man plus Clowney, Wilson, Keon. Maybe even a little more money to do something else. And they own the 2026 first which will likely be another lotto shot. and whatever they do with the other firsts.