Free Agent, Trade, Buyout, Extension & Conversion Thread, 2025 con't

[Celts17Pride]

LOL, it's funny to see everyone doing complicated trade gymnastics to gut the team when you can solve the cap problem completely by unloading one player and one player only.

and that can't be done because you have to take salary back. Fantasy.

[Curmudgeon]

LOL, it's funny to see everyone doing complicated trade gymnastics to gut the team when you can solve the cap problem completely by unloading one player and one player only.

and that can't be done because you have to take salary back. Fantasy.

Not if you trade him to the Nets. They will have over 70M in cap space. The deal would be Brown to the Nets for the #8 pick in the draft. Zero players come back to the Celtics (except for the player you select with #8). Or you could bundle picks to move up even higher in the draft and take fewer players.

[hugepatsfan]

LOL, it's funny to see everyone doing complicated trade gymnastics to gut the team when you can solve the cap problem completely by unloading one player and one player only.

and that can't be done because you have to take salary back. Fantasy.

Not if you trade him to the Nets. They will have over 70M in cap space. The deal would be Brown to the Nets for the #8 pick in the draft. Zero players come back to the Celtics (except for the player you select with #8). Or you could bundle picks to move up even higher in the draft and take fewer players.

I just don't think the Nets do that though. I certainly appreciate the simplicity of your suggestion, I just don't view it as something BRK would do.

[Curmudgeon]

Well you make the call. If you were a 26 win team needing to sell tickets and you could get a bona fide star for a mid lottery pick, wouldn't you consider it? Plus he's locked up for multiple years with no player options, which a comparable free agent would demand.

[yeleven11]

Well you make the call. If you were a 26 win team needing to sell tickets and you could get a bona fide star for a mid lottery pick, wouldn't you consider it? Plus he's locked up for multiple years with no player options, which a comparable free agent would demand.

I know you’re talking about the nets but the team that should do this is New Orleans

[Curmudgeon]

New Orleans doesn't have the cap space.

[djFan71]

Jrue to clippers for Dunn, Kobe brown, eubanks and Jordan miller
DJJ and X to SAC for fake pick

Saves Cs $19.9M
Clips get Jrue for DJJ and parts.
SAC gets DJJ (and X) for free into exceptions

Maybe SAC pays LAC a few 2nds.

[CelticFaninLBC]

hugepatsfan has been on moving KP for Nurkic and then stretching Nurkic or trying to keep cutting salary with additional trades until you get the cheapst possible player... and then stretch him... which makes sense.

If we're gonna waive/stretch KP, first try to flip KP for a lesser contract

Can see them stretching Porzingis and trading Hauser into a TPE. I believe that saves over $30 million in 2025-2026...

Smart move if someone will take KP without giving up assets.

[fallguy]

LOL, it's funny to see everyone doing complicated trade gymnastics to gut the team when you can solve the cap problem completely by unloading one player and one player only.

and that can't be done because you have to take salary back. Fantasy.

Not if you trade him to the Nets. They will have over 70M in cap space. The deal would be Brown to the Nets for the #8 pick in the draft. Zero players come back to the Celtics (except for the player you select with #8). Or you could bundle picks to move up even higher in the draft and take fewer players.

Brown would never be salary dumped like that. If they were to trade him, they'd be looking for maximum return, not cap relief.

[Curmudgeon]

and that can't be done because you have to take salary back. Fantasy.

Not if you trade him to the Nets. They will have over 70M in cap space. The deal would be Brown to the Nets for the #8 pick in the draft. Zero players come back to the Celtics (except for the player you select with #8). Or you could bundle picks to move up even higher in the draft and take fewer players.

Brown would never be salary dumped like that. If they were to trade him, they'd be looking for maximum return, not cap relief.

Why not? You dump one player instead of breaking up the whole team.

They should do it, but they won't because Stevens has this irrational thing about Brown. It's sad, really.

[Froob]

Jrue for Austin Reaves, Vando and Knecht ... is cap neutral for this season but it solves a lot of the longterm $$ problems by breaking up one big contract into 3 little ones
I'd hate to see Jrue Holiday on the Lakers tho

porzingis feels more likely for them. question would be his relationship with luka

[Curmudgeon]

Jrue for Austin Reaves, Vando and Knecht ... is cap neutral for this season but it solves a lot of the longterm $$ problems by breaking up one big contract into 3 little ones
I'd hate to see Jrue Holiday on the Lakers tho

porzingis feels more likely for them. question would be his relationship with luka

You aren't going to contend for a title EVER with players like Reaves, Vando and Knecht. The Lakers couldn't, and neither will the Celtics. Please let's stop with these three pennies for a nickel trades.

[chrisab123]

and that can't be done because you have to take salary back. Fantasy.

Not if you trade him to the Nets. They will have over 70M in cap space. The deal would be Brown to the Nets for the #8 pick in the draft. Zero players come back to the Celtics (except for the player you select with #8). Or you could bundle picks to move up even higher in the draft and take fewer players.

I just don't think the Nets do that though. I certainly appreciate the simplicity of your suggestion, I just don't view it as something BRK would do.

Nets would do that and call it in before the Celtics hang up the phone. This is not a good draft. Dumping Brown for the 8th pick is essentially a salary dump. It’s not worth it. Not to mention the eventual Tatum trade that will be coming down the pipeline. But yeah we’ll have young, exciting, athletic players who could one day get to the playoffs…

[Fierce1]

If JB is going to be traded, it has to be for the #2 pick or Giannis.

That is if Giannis wants to come to Boston.

[fallguy]

Not if you trade him to the Nets. They will have over 70M in cap space. The deal would be Brown to the Nets for the #8 pick in the draft. Zero players come back to the Celtics (except for the player you select with #8). Or you could bundle picks to move up even higher in the draft and take fewer players.

Brown would never be salary dumped like that. If they were to trade him, they'd be looking for maximum return, not cap relief.

Why not? You dump one player instead of breaking up the whole team.

They should do it, but they won't because Stevens has this irrational thing about Brown. It's sad, really.

JB has tons of value around the league. You have to capture that value if you trade him. If we were talking about keeping three guys of Derrick White's calibre and JB was a casualty of that, then at least it would have some logic to it. But Al is done as a partner for Tatum, Jrue will be cooked in two years and KP, though we love him, ain't reliable. We aren't sacrificing Brown to keep those guys.

[fallguy]

If JB is going to be traded, it has to be for the #2 pick or Giannis.

That is if Giannis wants to come to Boston.

There is a fun deal where JB goes to New Orleans, Mil gets tons of picks (including their own back from N.O. so they can tank) and a young player or two and we get Giannis.

[Fierce1]

If JB is going to be traded, it has to be for the #2 pick or Giannis.

That is if Giannis wants to come to Boston.

There is a fun deal where JB goes to New Orleans, Mil gets tons of picks (including their own back from N.O. so they can tank) and a young player or two and we get Giannis.

100%

I'm all in on that one.

[chrisab123]

If JB is going to be traded, it has to be for the #2 pick or Giannis.

That is if Giannis wants to come to Boston.

There is a fun deal where JB goes to New Orleans, Mil gets tons of picks (including their own back from N.O. so they can tank) and a young player or two and we get Giannis.

That deal would make sense. That’s something that probably won’t piss off Tatum.

[Froob]

Jrue for Austin Reaves, Vando and Knecht ... is cap neutral for this season but it solves a lot of the longterm $$ problems by breaking up one big contract into 3 little ones
I'd hate to see Jrue Holiday on the Lakers tho

porzingis feels more likely for them. question would be his relationship with luka

You aren't going to contend for a title EVER with players like Reaves, Vando and Knecht. The Lakers couldn't, and neither will the Celtics. Please let's stop with these three pennies for a nickel trades.

i’d be thrilled to get reaves or knecht, they have trade value they don’t even have to be for us

[darrendaye]

Jrue reuniting with Charles Lee in Charlotte feels like something that could be worked out.