Lets admit the obvious: SGA is a better player than Luka

[UglyBugBall]

Why'd OP remove the poll?

I put the poll back up go right ahead

But why?

OP, you owe this community a clear and direct answer to the question:

Why did you remove the poll?

Your silence is not neutrality—it is an admission. Until you provide a credible explanation, we are forced to consider the possibility of manipulation, or worse, fraud.

I contend that you were fully aware of the consequences of removing the poll. You knew it would reset the votes. And you did so with intent, to erase Luka’s lead, and to allow a wave of SGA fan votes to sway the results in your favor.

This is not just speculation. This is the clear motive, and as the thread owner you had the means to carry it out.

If you have nothing to hide, then prove it.

Otherwise, we must call it what it is: fraud, a deliberate attempt to tamper with the outcome.

[ImmortalD24]

Your silence is not neutrality—it is an admission.

Speaking of fraud.. it appears you used chatgbt in your post. See: em dash. Can you prove otherwise?

https://medium.com/@brentcsutoras/the-em-dash-dilemma-how-a-punctuation-mark-became-ais-stubborn-signature-684fbcc9f559

Also.. poll was removed 30 minutes after thread was created (with Luka up by a total of 3 votes) after a game where a lot of folks are crying about SGA being a "foul merchant" including color commentator Doris Burke. Keep crying about fraud.

Like I said this is a popularity contest. Luka is a Laker and plays with LeBron at the end of the day so votes will be skewed in his favor regardless.

Poll was put back up because they were requesting the poll to be brought back up.

Why'd OP remove the poll?

It's so funny the poll was removed because it wasn't going the way they wanted...

STOP THE STEAL!!!

I personally think in this scenario poll should be taken with a grain of salt.

to erase Luka’s lead, and to allow a wave of SGA fan votes to sway the results in your favor.

3 votes.. yeah big lead I have no control over who would vote as it's open to everyone. There is no conspiracy to get all of the SGA fans to vote all at once once poll is reset. Again a total of 9 votes were casted from the start of the thread (after a lot of people were complaining about SGAs style of play in a WCF game) with Luka up by 3 votes. Get a grip.

[Baz]

Luka's been better until * very * recently, but I personally don't expect that trend to continue. It's a shame Nico blew up that great Mavs team because the WCF probably would've been Shai and Luka right now. Last time that happened, Luka's team advanced against the odds. Both teams got better before Luka was traded so we'll never know. I'm not sure if Luka will ever have a better opportunity to win titles in LA considering he's basically back to where he was at 5 years ago with a cruddy roster.

[Godymas]

No they aren't and a big part of it is also how clutch and killer he's been in very high pressured situations from his rookie year (the incredible buzzer beater against the Blazers, the one against a stacked Clippers team in the Bubble and being injured).

In fact, he's already showed a clutchness and a not afraid attitude to take the last shot that even a guy like LeBron hasn't showed that much and most certainly not by Luka's current age.

And so has Damian Lillard, which is another person that is worth comparing Luka to in terms of career. Clutchness is just one factor, and the block in game 7 vs. the 73-9 Warriors is certainly a moment that Luka is not even close to

I knew someone would answer that but the thing is Lillard has never ever achieved the peak level Luka has reached so he has the clutchness factor at an all time great level for sure but not the rest whereas Luka's got both and more
Hell, i'm not even sure Dame ever made an All NBA first team, something Luka already did 5 times at only 26

So what has Luka done at his age that is more impressive than KD which is my original comparison.

Once again, KD is a tier below Jordan and Lebron.

You need to realize, Luka is not on the tier of a Jordan or LeBron trajectory, he'd be lucky to end up above KD

[ImmortalD24]

allow a wave of SGA fan votes to sway the results in your favor.

Btw, I'm not a SGA fan.. I'm a neutral observer of the game. Here's my post in another thread titled "Why is Shai being overlooked as the "face of the league""
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2459770&start=80#p118662276

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

No statement dunks.. No regard for human life moments.. there is no suspense that he'll just drive and dunk on the entire team at any given notice. At his size we kinda expect that from a wing player.

Watch on YouTube

His dunk package only consists of basic two handers

Prior to this playoff run (where it appears they're going deep and he's about to win the MVP) I've never commented on SGA. And like others have said I believe he surpassed Luka only this year and could quite possibly continue in that trend given respective teams makeup and trajectory of players production.

[jg77]

I wouldn't even take Luka over Ant at this point.

[Ritzo]

He's been better since last season. He also had a better series when they matched up last year, Luka just had a better supporting cast.

[WargamesX]

I know Luka got fat but that is a big statement…. Very big statement

[HotRocks34]

Luka >, but props to SGA on a great year.

[Yoshun]

SGA was definitely better this season on both ends of the floor and deserved his MVP.

A lot of people are sleeping on Luka though. He had a nasty injury, a bad training staff, and a trade that blindsided him. We'll see next season. Some of these threads might get bumped...

[MoneyMo]

SGA.

Luka is already on the decline

[uncleduck13]

SGA MVP officially. This is where he begins to create separation. Don’t let him win a title and FMVP this year lol

[Optms]

SGA may be better than Jokic, forget Luka.

Anyone that takes 1 shot attempt in the second half of any game 7 deserves to go down a tier.

[Special_Puppy]

I wouldn't even take Luka over Ant at this point.

Now we are just trolling

[Special_Puppy]

SGA may be better than Jokic, forget Luka.

Anyone that takes 1 shot attempt in the second half of any game 7 deserves to go down a tier.

If Jokic took 20 shot attempts that game would you have him above SGA?

[Stan]

And just think, this is with SGA having an MVP and potential championship season, while Luka just had his worst season since his rookie year, and the poll is STILL tied

[Optms]

SGA may be better than Jokic, forget Luka.

Anyone that takes 1 shot attempt in the second half of any game 7 deserves to go down a tier.

If Jokic took 20 shot attempts that game would you have him above SGA?

Depends if he made them or not. But you can't win when your best player doesn't even try.

That was worse than James Harden.

[DaPessimist]

Superior scorer and infinitely better defender. Now he also has more NBA accolades.

[itsxtray]

Luka is slightly better offensively. SGA is a lot better on defense

That's what I thought too but the narrative is way more exaggerated than reality. The Thunder are constantly hiding Shai and I'm seeing him getting overpowered all the time. The difference in lateral quickness is obvious, but Luka has heft and a massive wingspan himself which allows him to stay home and get boards, steals. Plug him into this OKC team and he'd also be valuable in his role. Hell even Dallas was a good defense.

Being a good defender in the regular season is a lot different than being one in the playoffs, where teams will relentlessly hunt you. Not every team is built to do that, but if you run into one that is, like Dallas did last year against Boston, your defense will constantly be in rotation. Luka was blown by constantly in the Finals; it was wild to watch. This postseason he lead the league for blow-by's in a single game as well.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1kcyd5t/according_to_espn_in_elimination_game_5_luka/

[wegotthabeet]

Forget Luka, Shai is working on the best non-Jordan guard season ever. It's really being under-appreciated because of a GOAT level peak playing in the league at the same time,

He’s definitely reminiscent to the older late 30s below the rim Jordan.

I wouldn’t right off Luka just yet, but there’s pretty good chance he’s already peaked.