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Dalek wrote:
I was not a fan of Dillingham because he measured 164 lbs which is below the acceptable weight for an NBA player. It becomes impossible to attack the paint or defend when players in your position are 40-50 lbs heavier than you.
dohboy_24 wrote:Would Jase be getting as much hype if his last name wasn't Richardson and he wasn't the son of a former NBA player?
Other than being a back-to-back dunk champion, what did J-Rich do during his career that would suggest his offspring is going to be a star?
J-Rich was never an all-star, was never an all-NBA player, and he only made it to the playoffs 3 times during his 12 year career.
Jadoogar wrote:PushDaRock wrote:Yallbecrazy wrote:
Having elite touch and coordination around the rim has a correlation to shooting from everywhere. Certain guys you can assume won't be good 3pt shooters because they simply lack the coordination. Others you understand they are high end athletes so with proper coaching and a lot of work there is hope.
Jak is about as elite as it gets with his touch and coordination around the rim, but has never developed any semblance of a jumper.
Scottie is decent around the rim too but can't hit jumpers. Scottie had similar claims, if he gets a jumper, he'd be the best prospect in the draft. Turns out, there's more to improving shooting than just practicing open jumpers in an empty gym.
Clutch0z24 wrote:dohboy_24 wrote:Would Jase be getting as much hype if his last name wasn't Richardson and he wasn't the son of a former NBA player?
Other than being a back-to-back dunk champion, what did J-Rich do during his career that would suggest his offspring is going to be a star?
J-Rich was never an all-star, was never an all-NBA player, and he only made it to the playoffs 3 times during his 12 year career.
Has nothing to do with J-Rich for me....Thats just a + that he comes from a basketball family....That means he was taught to play basketball the right way....I go by production on the court & Skills....Bronny James was in a draft for god sake....Thats LBJs son....And although he was getting hyped up for clicks and views the real scouts in the know knew he wasn't worth a first round pick and was prolly a late 2nd round pick at best...That was the definition of getting hype because of your last name and not your on court play....
Jase on the other hand is getting hyped up for his on court production and play....Not for his name or who his dad is...
God Squad wrote:ImaBeatDatAzz wrote:Yallbecrazy wrote:
1. I never heard of anyone knowing what Masai is thinking.
2. Where are these reports?
3. He fits the profile of someone Masai loves to draft
4. He's an elite prospect and I will buy his jersey to replace my aging #3 Lowry jersey before the season starts. I'm very confident in him being at least an above average starter in this league.
Just search raptors on google lol. When I did that I kept seeing CMB
Literally no quote from Masai or The Raptors. Never change Raptors board.
OakleyDokely wrote:WuTang_OG wrote:
I like betting on these type of guys. He was a 0 star recruit who had to work for everything and he's improved different aspects of his game year over year, showing constant progress.
Clutch0z24 wrote:dohboy_24 wrote:Would Jase be getting as much hype if his last name wasn't Richardson and he wasn't the son of a former NBA player?
Other than being a back-to-back dunk champion, what did J-Rich do during his career that would suggest his offspring is going to be a star?
J-Rich was never an all-star, was never an all-NBA player, and he only made it to the playoffs 3 times during his 12 year career.
Has nothing to do with J-Rich for me....Thats just a + that he comes from a basketball family....That means he was taught to play basketball the right way....I go by production on the court & Skills....Bronny James was in a draft for god sake....Thats LBJs son....And although he was getting hyped up for clicks and views the real scouts in the know knew he wasn't worth a first round pick and was prolly a late 2nd round pick at best...That was the definition of getting hype because of your last name and not your on court play....
Jase on the other hand is getting hyped up for his on court production and play....Not for his name or who his dad is...
But also who cares what J-Rich did in his career that has nothing to do with how good he can become....Jalen Brunsons dad did nothing much in the NBA while his son is leading a team to maybe the NBA finals .....MJs son the GOATs son couldn't make the NBA...Lol
Brother you've gone from judging players based off the success of other players from the same school to predicting a players success based off his fathers career...dohboy_24 wrote:Would Jase be getting as much hype if his last name wasn't Richardson and he wasn't the son of a former NBA player?
Other than being a back-to-back dunk champion, what did J-Rich do during his career that would suggest his offspring is going to be a star?
J-Rich was never an all-star, was never an all-NBA player, and he only made it to the playoffs 3 times during his 12 year career.
God Squad wrote:ImaBeatDatAzz wrote:Yallbecrazy wrote:
1. I never heard of anyone knowing what Masai is thinking.
2. Where are these reports?
3. He fits the profile of someone Masai loves to draft
4. He's an elite prospect and I will buy his jersey to replace my aging #3 Lowry jersey before the season starts. I'm very confident in him being at least an above average starter in this league.
Just search raptors on google lol. When I did that I kept seeing CMB
Literally no quote from Masai or The Raptors. Never change Raptors board.
dohboy_24 wrote:Every year there is at least one player who rises up the draft boards between now and the day of the draft.
Last year, it was Tidjane Saluan. In 2023, it was Bilal Coulibaly. In 2022, it was Shaedon Sharpe. In 2021, it was Scottie Barnes. In 2020, it was Jalen Smith and Isaiah Stewart.
This year, who do you think is going to be the biggest draft riser?
canada_dry wrote:Brother you've gone from judging players based off the success of other players from the same school to predicting a players success based off his fathers career...
Tough.
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OakleyDokely wrote:
I don't think CMB necessarily needs to become a good 3pt shooter to be valuable, because that's not really his game, most defenses still won't guard him out there even if he shows catch and shoot potential . You're drafting him for the defensive versatility, the playmaking, the efficiency inside and the hub that he can be on offense. But team fit will be key. He's not going to work on every team.
DG88 wrote:I've had Jase in the 10-12 range for me. He'd be the best shot creator in our range with great efficiency. Yes, his combine measurements in terms of his height were less than expected, but you can't deny his production.
DG88 wrote:I've had Jase in the 10-12 range for me. He'd be the best shot creator in our range with great efficiency. Yes, his combine measurements in terms of his height were less than expected, but you can't deny his production.
CazOnReal wrote:I really should like Collin Murray-Boyles more than I do.
Defensively, he’s got good hands, great on-court awareness – he just knows where to be and where to reposition himself - and as a small ball 5 he’s had spurts of effectiveness as a rim protector as well as a robust rebounder. He doesn’t have the size to be a full-time center but he’s long, strong and can stick to his man like glue without worry about getting knocked down. The advanced stats paint a pretty favorable picture…until you delve a bit deeper into them. Specifically, the ones related to his offense.
That true shooting percentage belies how simplistic his game is, overreliance on physicality to get to the rim and having no range to speak of, not to mention he only uses his left hand. And while he’s faster than the big men he’s go against at college and stronger than the smaller players he could bully his way to the rim, he’s not so overwhelming an athlete to inspire confidence that his game will translate to the next level.
He didn’t shoot many 3s in college – making only 9 of his 34 attempts – which between that and a not stellar free throw percentage, there isn’t much reason to be encouraged that things will be different any time soon in the NBA. As good as the Raptors have been at developing their players overall, one of the things they’ve struggled of late is turning their non-shooters into 3-point snipers or even league average.
I don’t want to pretend like he has zero value on the offensive end - for one, he’s got a nose for crashing the glass, he’s decent as a driver and capable as a decision maker with the ball in his hands…well his left hand anyway - but it’s not an area where he’s particularly strong overall and it’s one where he hasn’t *that* made much progress since last year where he was expected to be a mid-lottery pick or later in a worse draft.
To be clear: Collin is a great defender. But he is not so elite on the perimeter nor the interior to overlook his offensive woes. He’s basically a juiced-up version of what we have with Johnathan Mogbo where he’s not big enough to be a true center and while the numbers look favorable due to solid finishing…as we’re seeing with Johnathan, his lack of offensive versatility makes keeping him on the floor to get them the reps necessary to develop his offensive skillset a tricky endeavor. And let's be clear: Collin is coming off the bench, he is not starting for this team even in the off-chance RJ gets traded without bringing back a starter-caliber player in the process.
I wouldn’t hate Boyles as a Raptor but he is a prime trade down target. At Toronto’s current draft position, he is the one prospect on this list I would not be comfortable taking and he's the only player in the Raptors range that i'd be disappointed if they just took him instead of moving down for, say, a later pick and a future draft pick/player on a rookie deal.
dohboy_24 wrote:Dalek wrote:
I was not a fan of Dillingham because he measured 164 lbs which is below the acceptable weight for an NBA player. It becomes impossible to attack the paint or defend when players in your position are 40-50 lbs heavier than you.
You don't say...
I think AI might not agree with you... and Speedy Claxton, TJ Ford, Darren Collison, and Dennis Schroder might have something to say about it too.
