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[165bows]

O'Connor: Brown, White have ‘massive' trade value if C's make a move

Kevin O'Connor of Yahoo Sports joined Wednesday's Early Edition to discuss what a Brown or White trade could look like.

"I think it's massive. I do," O'Connor said of Brown's trade value. "Think about Houston, for example. If they wanted to reunite Ime Udoka with Jaylen Brown and they don't get Giannis Antetokounmpo. If the Houston Rockets on draft night come calling with the No. 10 pick, Fred Van Vleet's contract, which will only have one year left after his team option kicks in, and a bunch of other high-value future picks -- they have Suns future first-rounders among other teams as well -- if you're the Celtics, I would think you at least have to listen to that offer if Houston comes calling with that."

As for White, the do-it-all guard has already been the subject of trade rumors with the Golden State Warriors as a potential suitor. O'Connor sees such a move as a real possibility if the Warriors send C's president of basketball operations Brad Stevens a serious offer.

"If the Golden State Warriors, if they were to call up and offer a Mikal Bridges-esque package -- four first-round draft picks -- for Derrick White, you gotta listen," O'Connor said.

https://www.nbcsportsboston.com/nba/boston-celtics/kevin-o-connor-jaylen-brown-derrick-white-trade-value-rockets-warriors/711031/

I really don’t get why people say celtics should listen to offers for derrick white if you get a heavy picks-based offer. When tatum comes back, we’re gonna be back trying to offer those same picks for a derrick white type player lol

Well like I’ve said the player to target isn’t another white or brown it’s Jokic.

Otherwise yeah it’s just risking a lateral move or a lot worse

[Curmudgeon]

So would you rather have Derrick White for $28M a year or Jaylen Brown for $53M? Is this even close?

[brackdan70]

Prediction….we don’t trade White or Brown.
It would be stupid.
Really stupid…Rick Pitino is not here any more guys.

[Curmudgeon]

Prediction….we don’t trade White or Brown.
It would be stupid.
Really stupid…Rick Pitino is not here any more guys.

I think that's a very good prediction, even though they ought to trade Brown.

[chrisab123]

Not if you trade him to the Nets. They will have over 70M in cap space. The deal would be Brown to the Nets for the #8 pick in the draft. Zero players come back to the Celtics (except for the player you select with #8). Or you could bundle picks to move up even higher in the draft and take fewer players.

Brown would never be salary dumped like that. If they were to trade him, they'd be looking for maximum return, not cap relief.

Why not? You dump one player instead of breaking up the whole team.

They should do it, but they won't because Stevens has this irrational thing about Brown. It's sad, really.

You salary dump the 2nd best player on your team you might end up having to dump the best one when he comes back. Which kind of leaves you with the IT Celtics. You want to trade Brown for the sake of getting him off the team. Trade him for a better player. I swear some of you would take a 2nd rounder in 2040 for him.

[Curmudgeon]

The point of trading Brown into the Nets cap space is that it leaves the rest of a championship team intact. I have no interest in trading Brown to Houston for a year of FVV or anything like that. The salary dump has to be pure or it's not worth it, because then you have to move other pieces to make the finances work.

[fallguy]

The point of trading Brown into the Nets cap space is that it leaves the rest of a championship team intact. I have no interest in trading Brown to Houston for a year of FVV or anything like that. The salary dump has to be pure or it's not worth it, because then you have to move other pieces to make the finances work.

I get you hate Brown and not without some fair reason but this is just such a stupid idea.

[Curmudgeon]

The point of trading Brown into the Nets cap space is that it leaves the rest of a championship team intact. I have no interest in trading Brown to Houston for a year of FVV or anything like that. The salary dump has to be pure or it's not worth it, because then you have to move other pieces to make the finances work.

I get you hate Brown and not without some fair reason but this is just such a stupid idea.

Not nearly as stupid as some of the other proposals I've seen in this thread. Kyle Kuzma? Really? I'm sure Tatum will be ecstatic if they bring in Kuzma.

[fallguy]

The point of trading Brown into the Nets cap space is that it leaves the rest of a championship team intact. I have no interest in trading Brown to Houston for a year of FVV or anything like that. The salary dump has to be pure or it's not worth it, because then you have to move other pieces to make the finances work.

I get you hate Brown and not without some fair reason but this is just such a stupid idea.

Not nearly as stupid as some of the other proposals I've seen in this thread. Kyle Kuzma? Really? I'm sure Tatum will be ecstatic if they bring in Kuzma.

No, that is stupid too. Both are insane ideas and neither will - nor should - happen.

[ConstableGeneva]

Oh, it went to OT. Now the 30+ pts in under 30 mins makes sense lol.

[ConstableGeneva]

Knicks win probability went as high as 99.7%. Couldn't have happened to a better franchise.

[fallguy]

I can't dislike this Knicks team. After 25 years of futility, these guys are likeable and good and fun and Brunson is a savage.

[playa-hater]

Knicks win probability went as high as 99.7%. Couldn't have happened to a better franchise.

The Lakers say hello

[fallguy]

O'Connor: Brown, White have ‘massive' trade value if C's make a move

Kevin O'Connor of Yahoo Sports joined Wednesday's Early Edition to discuss what a Brown or White trade could look like.

"I think it's massive. I do," O'Connor said of Brown's trade value. "Think about Houston, for example. If they wanted to reunite Ime Udoka with Jaylen Brown and they don't get Giannis Antetokounmpo. If the Houston Rockets on draft night come calling with the No. 10 pick, Fred Van Vleet's contract, which will only have one year left after his team option kicks in, and a bunch of other high-value future picks -- they have Suns future first-rounders among other teams as well -- if you're the Celtics, I would think you at least have to listen to that offer if Houston comes calling with that."

As for White, the do-it-all guard has already been the subject of trade rumors with the Golden State Warriors as a potential suitor. O'Connor sees such a move as a real possibility if the Warriors send C's president of basketball operations Brad Stevens a serious offer.

"If the Golden State Warriors, if they were to call up and offer a Mikal Bridges-esque package -- four first-round draft picks -- for Derrick White, you gotta listen," O'Connor said.

https://www.nbcsportsboston.com/nba/boston-celtics/kevin-o-connor-jaylen-brown-derrick-white-trade-value-rockets-warriors/711031/

The Warriors don't have anything we want.

But JB and DW both having massive trade value should be a lesson to some of us.

[ConstableGeneva]

Knicks win probability went as high as 99.7%. Couldn't have happened to a better franchise.

The Lakers say hello

You're right. Should've said fanbase.

[Memokerobi]

Ok here’s a massive trade I cooked up that incredibly works lol

Celtics give: KP, Jrue, Hauser, pick 28
Celtics get: Austin Reaves, Marcus Smart, Corey Kispert

Lakers give: Reaves, Knecht, Kleber, Gabe Vincent, Vanderbilt, Hachimura
Lakers get: KP, MPJ, Julian Strawther, Saddiq Bey, 28th pick

Nuggets give: MPJ, Strawther, Zeke Nnaji, 2031 unprotected first
Nuggets get: Jrue Holiday, Sam Hauser

Wizards give: Marcus Smart, Corey Kispert, Bey
Wizards get: Dalton Knecht, 2031 first, Rui Hachimura, Vanderbilt, Kleber, Gabe Vincent

Who says no?? (Probably everyone)

[Jellybeans]

Does DWhite rumors are wild and O'Connor picks it up like it was ''reported''
There was no reports.
It was pretty much -What would GSW offer for DWHite. I guess this is how rumors start from nothing.

[ConstableGeneva]

Pretty sure you guys have come up with every trade idea already but this is one I heard on one of the Athletic podcasts. I quite like it if you're just looking to dump Holiday without attaching any assets -- Holiday for Gafford + PJ Washington. Would make more sense if we also trade KP for more $$ savings. Both are expiring on decent money. C's can trade either at the deadline if they want to get off more money or extend either/both (both are just 27 yo next season). Mavs prioritize defense or so they say. Holiday can play PG while they wait for Kyrie and can easily play alongside Kyrie once he comes back. They have a surplus of bigs and a need for lead guards.

[phincsfan]

I love the term “salary dump” and how it’s used for the Nets.

I’m sure the Nets are looking for the best “salary dump”.

[djFan71]

Man, somebody stop me. I’m talking myself into Jalen Green. Needs some development still, obviously, but he can score and attack the rim. His flaws can be improved. Buy low candidate now. If it doesn’t work out in 2 years, you have a flippable salary.

JB and Jrue could net you Green, 10, Eason, PJ Washington and the better of HOU 27 picks. And save $32M next year (before pick $). Using Nets as 4th team taking contracts and Reed Sheppard.