PG: Knicks vs Indy: Game 1 ECF

[G_K_F]

I know some of you say it's just one game, but I've seen this movie before over the last 30+ years. Pacers OKC finals. To think otherwise is to ignore recent and old history

I’m not there yet. At least 144 mins of basketball to be played.

We’ll see what this team is made of

We saw what they were made of this game.

This is sports. Mental is just as important as the physical.

Our mental has never been lower. The Pacers mental has never been higher.

If we were the Pacers fans we would be talking about Pacers in 5. But we’re Knicks fans holding on to some fleeting hope history will be different for a team that has historically been on the wrong side of it.

[KnixinSix]

Thibs subbing KAT to be on floor same time with Brunson up 14 with 3:44 left was the collosal mistake. It should have never got to having to make those free throws to keep the Pacers from tying it in the first place. Pacers already showed they were ready to cook that line up when they started the game a blistering 9 for 9. Why in the world is not Mitch your defensive closer in that situation is absolutely mind boggling. I said it the moment he made the substitution too. Mitch 100% needed to be the closer for the final 3:44. That was the biggest mistake of the game by far.

You are up 14 and Pacers were scoring in bunches every single time those 2 were out there together. Every. Single. Time. ANY coach with a true feel for the game that is actually happening in front of him and considering score and time left would NEVER bring in the two weakest defenders at that point (especially with how they were playing together).

I am not mad anymore but was caught up in the moment bc I SAW IT COMING. I posted it the moment he subbed in KAT to be out there with JB in that situation (up 14 with 3:44 left).

Pacers were no joke like 70%+ insane shooting with both Brun and KAT in together all game long. They had a plan vs that lineup and were absolutely smoking it.

A smart coach simply says, Im up 14 so I am not going to put my pure offensive lineup in there thats been clearly getting cooked but more of a defensive line up ESPECIALLY when the in game advanced analytics are showing a HUGE change in defensive rating with Mitch on the floor.

This is prolly going to get picked up on very soon by the smart analysts and there will be a bunch of posts about it

This is really good take too!! I thought the game switched when he took Mcbride out, but it might have been him putting on KAT and Brunson.

Exactly. Your two weakest defenders BY FAR on the team. If we were losing when he made the substitution? Sure, makes more sense at least considering just how good they are offensively. However up 14 with 3:44 left? With the metrics as well as the eye test CLEARLY showing the Pacers were annihilating any lineup with both KAT and Brunson in there all game????

If he would have ran Mitch with Brunson or even Payne with KAT almost no way they go 6 for 6 on 3pointers in the final few minutes. We needed to NOT have the two weakest defenders out there up that much with less than 4 on the clock. Thats 1000% on Thibs. Period. End of discussion.

[Garbagelo]

Blowing massive leads will be my expectation for every Knick game from now till I die

i thought i had seen every humiliation but they find new ways to destroy me

[K_ick_God]

We also all know we are too dependent on JB but that is the way Thibs has made sure it is

[WaltFrazier]

Another thing. I’m tired of that starting lineup. It needs to change but stubborn Thibs refuses to adjust.

They can’t defend and we start off almost every game facing a deficit.

What more evidence does Thibs need?

Ditto but he isn't changing the starters now.

We better have a different starting 5 next year

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[Phish Tank]

Trade OG and Josh

OG should walk across the Brooklyn Bridge, grab me some cheesecake, and walk back to NJ to hand deliver it to me.

Josh should take his ADD meds before every game.

Need apologies from everyone.

Total choke.

[R-DAWG]

Thibs subbing KAT to be on floor same time with Brunson up 14 with 3:44 left was the collosal mistake. It should have never got to having to make those free throws to keep the Pacers from tying it in the first place. Pacers already showed they were ready to cook that line up when they started the game a blistering 9 for 9. Why in the world is not Mitch your defensive closer in that situation is absolutely mind boggling. I said it the moment he made the substitution too. Mitch 100% needed to be the closer for the final 3:44. That was the biggest mistake of the game by far.

You are up 14 and Pacers were scoring in bunches every single time those 2 were out there together. Every. Single. Time. ANY coach with a true feel for the game that is actually happening in front of him and considering score and time left would NEVER bring in the two weakest defenders at that point (especially with how they were playing together).

I am not mad anymore but was caught up in the moment bc I SAW IT COMING. I posted it the moment he subbed in KAT to be out there with JB in that situation (up 14 with 3:44 left).

Pacers were no joke like 70%+ insane shooting with both Brun and KAT in together all game long. They had a plan vs that lineup and were absolutely smoking it.

A smart coach simply says, Im up 14 so I am not going to put my pure offensive lineup in there thats been clearly getting cooked but more of a defensive line up ESPECIALLY when the in game advanced analytics are showing a HUGE change in defensive rating with Mitch on the floor.

This is prolly going to get picked up on very soon by the smart analysts and there will be a bunch of posts about it

This is really good take too!! I thought the game switched when he took Mcbride out, but it might have been him putting on KAT and Brunson.

Your two weakest defenders by far on the team. If we were losing? Sure makes sense considering jsut how good they are offensively. However up 14 with 3:44 left? And the metrics as well as the eye test CLEARLY show the Pacers were annihilating any lineup with both KAT and Brunson in there all game?

If he would have ran Mitch with Brunson or even Payne with KAT almost no way they go 6 for 6 on 3pointers in the final few minutes. We needed to NOT have the two weakest defenders by far out there up that much with less than 4 on the clock. Thats 1000% on Thibs. Period. End of discussion.

One of the biggest questions about this team is can you win deep in the playoffs when your two best players are negative defensive players.

This roster is so flawed. They need another guy besides Brunson who can create a shot. They need a durable rim protector because you can’t rely on Mitch for more than 20-25 MPG.

[Capn'O]

Thibs saying the right things but I feel like he's going to be up the next 48 hours scribbling defensive schemes on his wall like a madman.

As he should be.

[whocares1]

Thibs subbing KAT to be on floor same time with Brunson up 14 with 3:44 left was the collosal mistake. It should have never got to having to make those free throws to keep the Pacers from tying it in the first place. Pacers already showed they were ready to cook that line up when they started the game a blistering 9 for 9. Why in the world is not Mitch your defensive closer in that situation is absolutely mind boggling. I said it the moment he made the substitution too. Mitch 100% needed to be the closer for the final 3:44. That was the biggest mistake of the game by far.

You are up 14 and Pacers were scoring in bunches every single time those 2 were out there together. Every. Single. Time. ANY coach with a true feel for the game that is actually happening in front of him and considering score and time left would NEVER bring in the two weakest defenders at that point (especially with how they were playing together).

I am not mad anymore but was caught up in the moment bc I SAW IT COMING. I posted it the moment he subbed in KAT to be out there with JB in that situation (up 14 with 3:44 left).

Pacers were no joke like 70%+ insane shooting with both Brun and KAT in together all game long. They had a plan vs that lineup and were absolutely smoking it.

A smart coach simply says, Im up 14 so I am not going to put my pure offensive lineup in there thats been clearly getting cooked but more of a defensive line up ESPECIALLY when the in game advanced analytics are showing a HUGE change in defensive rating with Mitch on the floor.

This is prolly going to get picked up on very soon by the smart analysts and there will be a bunch of posts about it

A smart coach just tells players to switch on the screen when Nesmith made two in a row. OG’s reluctance to switch immediately was the problem. It isn’t deeper than that. Knicks escape with the win if they force Nesmith to miss.

Likely never even gets to that point if he doesnt have the two weakest defenders on the team out there at the same time for a situation that was screaming for a better defensive line up (i.e up 14 with 3:44 left)

Dude think about it. Most coaches in the league would put their star player back in. We routinely have closed games with Brunson and towns all post season long. Are they weak defensively? Sure. But you’re thinking lineups when the solution was much simpler than that. Just switch. OG let Nesmith take at least 3 wide open threes when he could’ve just switched. You stop Nesmith and the game is over.

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[Strick]

We need more Deuce minutes. He was massive and I hate we wasted that performance. That block he had was incredible

[R-DAWG]

Trade OG and Josh

OG should walk across the Brooklyn Bridge, grab me some cheesecake, and walk back to NJ to hand deliver it to me.

Josh should take his ADD meds before every game.

Need apologies from everyone.

Total choke.

Josh should be playing 25 MPG off the bench and we shouldn’t have all 3 of Bridges/Anunoby/Hart on the court at the same time. They are all small forwards who shouldn’t be primary or secondary offensive players.

[Guano]

So sick of hearing, "sorry about you knicks"

[K_ick_God]

0g has looked bad all playoffs basically

Looks slow and weak … shot comes and goes and mostly goes

Feels like he’s in the way and we need more Deuce, less him

Hart’s foul on Siakam was terrible too

[Jeff Van Gully]

When JB went out we dominated

No way that team blows the lead but Thibs cares more about his dumbass principles than winning

Send him and his petty rules packing … but even then I’m out personally

right. see you tomorrow. and friday.

[G_K_F]

Guys talking about “Watch the film”.

I don’t need to watch film to know how not to lose a 14 point lead with 2 minutes left.

Teams looks satisfied just to be in the ECF.

Had a weird feeling after I saw Leon Rose crying like he won the title when they beat Boston. People were acting like we just got our crown. But we crowned the Pacers instead.

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This should have been Thibs in the post game. Instead it was the same old bull.

[K_ick_God]

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Go bye bye Tom

[Butch718]

I just really want to feel 100 percent positive and confident about this team. They are so **** up and down. Like once again, not only did they choke, but they let that corny **** punk them on their own court. This loss was just epically bad on so many levels.

Like if you’re a player on the Knicks, you’re gonna need to man up and return the favor not only in game 2, but in game 3 or 4 as well. You need to taunt them the way Hali did tonight. I just don’t have any confidence that this team will beat the getting clowned narratives from the last 25 years and quite honestly, they deserve every bit of disrespect that’s going to come their way the next couple of days.

If you want respect, you just cannot have losses like this. There is no excuse, like none at all.