Kings/Clippers and Jazz

[Astaluego]

KINGS
In: Collins
Out:DDR
The Kings are adding size and getting younger, and it also gives them more flexibility with Collins' expiring contract...

Monk/Lavine/Murray/Collins/Sabonis
Carter/Ellis/LaRavia/Simmons/Valanciunas

( Continue signing BSimmons in free agency to a 1+1 OT contract.)

CLIPPERS
In:DDR/53
Out: Bogdanovic/Eubanks/30

They improved what they were looking for with Bogdanovic (scoring/secondary creation), for a very affordable price (dropping a few draft spots).

Harden/Powell/DDR/KL/Zubac
Dunn/Coffey/DJJ/Batum/Nance

(Continúe signing L.Nance in FA)

JAZZ
In: Bogdanovic/Eubanks/30
Out: Collins/53

to profit from Collins' expiration, while doing the right thing by sending him a contender

[babyjax13]

I like this all around.

[Daddy 801]

Rather package Collins and Sexton together for a bad contract that nets a FRP. But this is not bad if combining them doesn’t pan out.

[HadAnEffectHere]

The DeRozan-Kawhi-Powell-Harden fit is pretty miserable. I know it's fun to have DeRozan in LA, but there's just too many scorers in this situation.

[longfellow44]

Rather package Collins and Sexton together for a bad contract that nets a FRP. But this is not bad if combining them doesn’t pan out.

I would take that deal.

Kings send Zach Lavine and the Spurs 27 1st
for
Collins and Sexton


As far as the original trade I would do that too. I like Collins for the kings a lot and I think he would be a fantastic fit between Keegan and Sabonis

[Daddy 801]

Rather package Collins and Sexton together for a bad contract that nets a FRP. But this is not bad if combining them doesn’t pan out.

I would take that deal.

Kings send Zach Lavine and the Spurs 27 1st
for
Collins and Sexton


As far as the original trade I would do that too. I like Collins for the kings a lot and I think he would be a fantastic fit between Keegan and Sabonis

Probably a deal Danny says yes to. The value that Spurs pick is any good is pretty low, so maybe he picks another pick he thinks has more value. But this is the type of deal Ainge should be looking to do.

[SkyHook]

Rather package Collins and Sexton together for a bad contract that nets a FRP. But this is not bad if combining them doesn’t pan out.

I would take that deal.

Kings send Zach Lavine and the Spurs 27 1st
for
Collins and Sexton


As far as the original trade I would do that too. I like Collins for the kings a lot and I think he would be a fantastic fit between Keegan and Sabonis

Probably a deal Danny says yes to. The value that Spurs pick is any good is pretty low, so maybe he picks another pick he thinks has more value. But this is the type of deal Ainge should be looking to do.

Swap the SAN 2027 FRP for the SAC 2026 FRP and it has a better chance, I think.

[Astaluego]

Rather package Collins and Sexton together for a bad contract that nets a FRP. But this is not bad if combining them doesn’t pan out.

I would take that deal.

Kings send Zach Lavine and the Spurs 27 1st
for
Collins and Sexton


As far as the original trade I would do that too. I like Collins for the kings a lot and I think he would be a fantastic fit between Keegan and Sabonis

What would you offer to bring AD to the Kings?any interest?

[longfellow44]

His limited court time each season really limits his value to me, so honestly I'm probably offering the same deal lavine and a pick for Davis.

As far as switching the pick in the other deal, I think it would need to be top 8 protected and If it doesn't convey then you take the Spurs 27 pick.

[Daddy 801]

I would take that deal.

Kings send Zach Lavine and the Spurs 27 1st
for
Collins and Sexton


As far as the original trade I would do that too. I like Collins for the kings a lot and I think he would be a fantastic fit between Keegan and Sabonis

Probably a deal Danny says yes to. The value that Spurs pick is any good is pretty low, so maybe he picks another pick he thinks has more value. But this is the type of deal Ainge should be looking to do.

Swap the SAN 2027 FRP for the SAC 2026 FRP and it has a better chance, I think.

Done deal.

[Daddy 801]

His limited court time each season really limits his value to me, so honestly I'm probably offering the same deal lavine and a pick for Davis.

As far as switching the pick in the other deal, I think it would need to be top 8 protected and If it doesn't convey then you take the Spurs 27 pick.

Kind of the whole point is the off chance it actually conveys a high pick. If the Jazz know they can get two late lotto picks in separate trades it defeats the purpose of putting them together for the potential pick becoming a high pick. So Ainge offers back it’s a pick that is top 8 protected but if it’s top 8 the Jazz still the right to swap. The Jazz get a swing at the chance of a lucky move in the draft, and Sac still gets a top 8 pick because the Jazz are going to blow. If the Jazz don’t swap and Sac is out of the top 8 it just conveys to the Spurs pick.

[SNPA]

Probably a deal Danny says yes to. The value that Spurs pick is any good is pretty low, so maybe he picks another pick he thinks has more value. But this is the type of deal Ainge should be looking to do.

Swap the SAN 2027 FRP for the SAC 2026 FRP and it has a better chance, I think.

Done deal.

Big no from Sac. It’s crazy to make that bet. Perry has two firsts to trade that aren’t Sac’s own. Barring a franchise altering player he can’t be dumb enough to trade their own picks.

[Daddy 801]

Swap the SAN 2027 FRP for the SAC 2026 FRP and it has a better chance, I think.

Done deal.

Big no from Sac. It’s crazy to make that bet. Perry has two firsts to trade that aren’t Sac’s own. Barring a franchise altering player he can’t be dumb enough to trade their own picks.

Probably right. Which is why I amended the option where Sac still walks away with a lotto pick in 26 if it is a lotto pick. Jazz have to be top 8 next year to avoid their pick going to OKC. We’re tanking next year. Thank god.

[OxAndFox]

Swap the SAN 2027 FRP for the SAC 2026 FRP and it has a better chance, I think.

Done deal.

Big no from Sac. It’s crazy to make that bet. Perry has two firsts to trade that aren’t Sac’s own. Barring a franchise altering player he can’t be dumb enough to trade their own picks.

He can't be dumb enough to trade ANY 1st round picks barring a franchise altering player. No one in their right mind gives up a 1st without it being something that improves your team considerably.
Wait 2 more years and then you will see. 1st rounder price is as high as its ever been and it won't get lower due to the CBA. Everyone needs cheap talent on long term deals. That's the only way to get it. The Kings made their bed with their contracts. If you can't get out from under them and improve with other contracts then that says something doesn't it? Maybe you're not a piece or 2 away from doing anything.

[SNPA]

Done deal.

Big no from Sac. It’s crazy to make that bet. Perry has two firsts to trade that aren’t Sac’s own. Barring a franchise altering player he can’t be dumb enough to trade their own picks.

He can't be dumb enough to trade ANY 1st round picks barring a franchise altering player. No one in their right mind gives up a 1st without it being something that improves your team considerably.
Wait 2 more years and then you will see. 1st rounder price is as high as its ever been and it won't get lower due to the CBA. Everyone needs cheap talent on long term deals. That's the only way to get it. The Kings made their bed with their contracts. If you can't get out from under them and improve with other contracts then that says something doesn't it? Maybe you're not a piece or 2 away from doing anything.

I think he trades both. He doesn’t have another pathway to improve and Vivek wants the playoffs. The only way I see him not trading them is if Sabonis quietly demands out. But just swapping DDR for something else isn’t going to be enough.

[OxAndFox]

Big no from Sac. It’s crazy to make that bet. Perry has two firsts to trade that aren’t Sac’s own. Barring a franchise altering player he can’t be dumb enough to trade their own picks.

He can't be dumb enough to trade ANY 1st round picks barring a franchise altering player. No one in their right mind gives up a 1st without it being something that improves your team considerably.
Wait 2 more years and then you will see. 1st rounder price is as high as its ever been and it won't get lower due to the CBA. Everyone needs cheap talent on long term deals. That's the only way to get it. The Kings made their bed with their contracts. If you can't get out from under them and improve with other contracts then that says something doesn't it? Maybe you're not a piece or 2 away from doing anything.

I think he trades both. He doesn’t have another pathway to improve and Vivek wants the playoffs. The only way I see him not trading them is if Sabonis quietly demands out. But just swapping DDR for something else isn’t going to be enough.

Yeah, that's what I mean though. If you actually step back and look at what just happened in the West, this past season and at the draft lottery, the Kings just slipped to 2nd last, maybe 3rd last in the WC if NOP decide to rebuild which I think they will, so #13 in the West.
Sacramento will absolutely not be in the top 10 teams in the WC next season barring a superstar trade and trading 2 x 1sts isn't getting that done. They need to just quietly get what they can for that basketball terrorist DDR and go through a tank that isn't a firesale.
Next off season they can sell Sabonis off (if he doesn't ask out this off season, which he absolutely should) and go into the 2026 draft with at minimum 2 draft picks, all their own picks moving forward, the '31 Wolves pick that who knows what its going to be, plus whatever picks Sabonis nets you.

BUT the Kings will absolutely trade 3-4 x 1sts this off season for what is perceived to be decent gains by the fanbase only to be disappointed that it actually made no real difference whatsoever, finishing 11-12 place instead of #13 and the only reason you finished 11-12 is because another team or 2 saw the writing on the wall and tanked.