All of SGA game 1 drawn fouls

[wco81]

OKC or NYK win the ring with their best scorers being foul cheesers?

Not a good look.

[DB23]

How did he seek it with his arm? His arm is mostly obscured but what we see is mostly his right arm to his side. McDaniel has an arm on SGA...seemingly doing nothing. And there's contact between their legs/hips...i'll leave it to others if that's a foul or not. But I don't see anything where SGA in that play initiated contact, let alone exaggerated it. I'd however avoid "knocking him to the ground"...they bumped into each other and SGA's footing wasn't great.

oh, sorry, I was going to post this tweet with a different angle

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That tweet shows even more clearly that Shai has managed to get in front of McDaniels, that McDaniels isn't in a legal guarding position, and that McDaniels runs in to the back of him. Very good camera angle.

I think okc and shai fans are missing the point.

It’s the unnatural flailing of the heads and throwing himself to the ground. There is marginal contact on almost every possession of playoff basketball and far more egregious contact was allowed with other stars so far this playoffs.

I want to like shai and okc and am neutral in the series but floppers are not going to get respect, even if it’s legal.

Honestly in European basketball they would just waved play-on for half the fouls the previous poster showed.

[CS707]

The criticism isn’t that he doesn’t get fouled, it’s that he plays the game to get fouled.

[Mamba Mentality]

The Wolves took 30 more threes and only 5 less ft's yet the whole narrative this morning is that SGA gets a favorable whistle.

This is exceedingly bad logic.

To determine if SGA gets a favorable whistle, you look at SGA plays, not MIN’s three’s or even the total shots from both teams’ players.

If you don't see what I'm trying to get at then I cant help you.

[TroubleS0me]

lol where was this thread for James Harden Rockets

[kazyv]

oh, sorry, I was going to post this tweet with a different angle

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That tweet shows even more clearly that Shai has managed to get in front of McDaniels, that McDaniels isn't in a legal guarding position, and that McDaniels runs in to the back of him. Very good camera angle.

I think okc and shai fans are missing the point.

It’s the unnatural flailing of the heads and throwing himself to the ground. There is marginal contact on almost every possession of playoff basketball and far more egregious contact was allowed with other stars so far this playoffs.

I want to like shai and okc and am neutral in the series but floppers are not going to get respect, even if it’s legal.

Honestly in European basketball they would just waved play-on for half the fouls the previous poster showed.

yep, exactly. shai initiates the contact and starts falling immidiately. it's flopping 101. any contact that happened there from mcdaniels is pretty much incidential and didn't change anything in terms of shai wanted to do

[dhsilv2]

That tweet shows even more clearly that Shai has managed to get in front of McDaniels, that McDaniels isn't in a legal guarding position, and that McDaniels runs in to the back of him. Very good camera angle.

I think okc and shai fans are missing the point.

It’s the unnatural flailing of the heads and throwing himself to the ground. There is marginal contact on almost every possession of playoff basketball and far more egregious contact was allowed with other stars so far this playoffs.

I want to like shai and okc and am neutral in the series but floppers are not going to get respect, even if it’s legal.

Honestly in European basketball they would just waved play-on for half the fouls the previous poster showed.

yep, exactly. shai initiates the contact and starts falling immidiately. it's flopping 101. any contact that happened there from mcdaniels is pretty much incidential and didn't change anything in terms of shai wanted to do

Shai does not initiate this contact...

If someone wants to argue it's incidental or that Shai exaggerated a bit...I don't see much need to argue. I"m not sure either is true but that's reasonable. But he was clearly trying to go past and was touched/tripped.

[dhsilv2]

The criticism isn’t that he doesn’t get fouled, it’s that he plays the game to get fouled.

Is that different than someone trying to get fouled? In other words there's guys who try to avoid contact, guys who actively seek it (playing to get fouled), and those who look to "grift" players into fouling them? The distinction being some styles of play simply create more contact vs the focus being to get a foul called via trying to get a player off balance and then initiate contact for the foul to be called.

As I'd agree, SGA's zig zag style causes more players to foul him. That's not looking for fouls like a harden would do.

[PushDaRock]

Here’s a better angle on the obvious foul that folks were saying was a phantom call.

It was a trip. I don’t think intentional.

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lol now will people on here actually admit it's not a phantom call?

[PushDaRock]

Here’s a better angle on the obvious foul that folks were saying was a phantom call.

It was a trip. I don’t think intentional.

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Obviously not an intentional trip, but it's also not a foul at all, it's a no call play on. Shai actually plants his foot to stepback in between McDaniels feet on the floor, and SGA's foot that he plants is WAY outside the space he is entitled to as an offensive player. It would be the same as awarding an offensive player a shooting foul for kicking their leg out on the jumper a full 3 feet from their regular shooting motion while they leg goes underneath the airborne defensive player. Yes there is contact, but when it is initiated by the offensive player contorting their body to go outside of their entitled to space as an offensive player, they can't be rewarded for that.

Refs have to be better, more consistent. The contact that is called on one end has to be called on the other, that's the issue. Either let both sides maul each other and we can play 87-83 final score hoops, or we can call it by the rule book and play 116-113 final score hoops. But this crap right now where one side can maul defensively while another can't breathe on their opponents is dumb and boring and will lead to blowouts and bad viewership that will just be blamed on Small Market Size.

lol what? any trip is a foul call every single time whether it's intentional or not.

The trip also happened only because McDaniels was trying to recover to contest the shot while being off way balance from SGA's move. If he was in better guarding position, he wouldn't have tripped him.

[LSWF]

Here’s a better angle on the obvious foul that folks were saying was a phantom call.

It was a trip. I don’t think intentional.

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lol now will people on here actually admit it's not a phantom call?

I see SGA hit McDaniels in the balls and that should be a very offensive foul. You don't see that?

[PushDaRock]

The criticism isn’t that he doesn’t get fouled, it’s that he plays the game to get fouled.

He took more FGA's than anyone in the league this year, I'm pretty sure he plays the game to put the ball in the bucket.

If you want an example of an actual FT merchant, someone like Butler fits the bill. He took 7.1 FTA per game while only taking 10.9 FGA per game. That's someone actually trying to get to the line rather than score most of the time.

[PushDaRock]

Here’s a better angle on the obvious foul that folks were saying was a phantom call.

It was a trip. I don’t think intentional.

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lol now will people on here actually admit it's not a phantom call?

I see SGA hit McDaniels in the balls and that should be a very offensive foul. You don't see that?

lol no and if McDaniels was hit in the balls, he would have reacted like he was

[LSWF]

lol now will people on here actually admit it's not a phantom call?

I see SGA hit McDaniels in the balls and that should be a very offensive foul. You don't see that?

lol no and if McDaniels was hit in the balls, he would have reacted like he was

You see what you want to see.

[PushDaRock]

I see SGA hit McDaniels in the balls and that should be a very offensive foul. You don't see that?

lol no and if McDaniels was hit in the balls, he would have reacted like he was

You see what you want to see.

Have you ever been hit in the balls and not reacted?

[LSWF]

lol no and if McDaniels was hit in the balls, he would have reacted like he was

You see what you want to see.

Have you ever been hit in the balls and not reacted?

I see SGA hit him he falls back and bends forward. Where is SGA's hand? I see it as a glancing blow to the area of the balls with more force to his hip area. I see it as more of an offensive foul than a defensive foul.

[Heej]

People see what they want to see. And believe what they want to believe.

...including the OP.

Look hard enough, and you can find a foul on EVERY NBA possession, nearly every drive, nearly every rebound, nearly every screen. And that's what gets people, including players and coaches, frustrated about the SGA whistle.

It's not a consistent whistle. It's inconsistent from player to player. Game to game. Play to play. And there are a few NBA players who know the grift better than others. Embiid knew it. Harden knew it. And SGA knows it.

Thank you this is all that needs to be said

[PushDaRock]

You see what you want to see.

Have you ever been hit in the balls and not reacted?

I see SGA hit him he falls back and bends forward. Where is SGA's hand? I see it as a glancing blow to the area of the balls with more force to his hip area. I see it as more of an offensive foul than a defensive foul.

ok so thanks for confirming he didn't hit him in the balls

[LSWF]

Have you ever been hit in the balls and not reacted?

I see SGA hit him he falls back and bends forward. Where is SGA's hand? I see it as a glancing blow to the area of the balls with more force to his hip area. I see it as more of an offensive foul than a defensive foul.

ok so thanks for confirming he didn't hit him in the balls

That is not what I did. Is English your first language? Only McDaniels knows the exact amount of contact to the balls region was hit. You call this a defensive foul. I call it an offensive foul. It's probably a no call for most players other than SGA.

[PushDaRock]

I see SGA hit him he falls back and bends forward. Where is SGA's hand? I see it as a glancing blow to the area of the balls with more force to his hip area. I see it as more of an offensive foul than a defensive foul.

ok so thanks for confirming he didn't hit him in the balls

That is not what I did. Is English your first language? Only McDaniels knows the exact amount of contact to the balls region was hit. You call this a defensive foul. I call it an offensive foul. It's probably a no call for most players other than SGA.

Does it matter if it is?

Once again, have you ever been hit in the balls and not reacted?

When is someone tripping another player ever a no call?