Hornets offseason with Blazers/Hawks

[Astaluego]

HORNETS
In: Ayton/22/Future FRP Wors NOP/Bucks(aBy Hawks)
Out: Nurkic/Okogie/M.Williams

Draft..
4.. Edgecombe
22..Ben Saraf
34..Zikarsky

Trade..
M.Williams HAWKS
Nurkic/Okogie /SRP 33. BLAZERS
Ayton/22/Pacers 26 FRP HORNETS

The Hornets present a good product on the court, with a lot of room for growth with pieces that complement each other perfectly and obtain more future assets.

Ball/Saraf/Tre Mann
Edgecombe/N.Smith/S.Curry
Miller/Green/Jeffryes
Bridges/G.Williams/Salaun
Ayton/Diabate/Zikarsky

HAWKS
In:M.Williams
Out:22/Future NOP/Bucks FRP

The Hawks turn two late-round draft picks into an ideal fit for Trae.
They draft C. Bryant (13)and go for a backup guard in the FA(Tyus or Tre Jones), fearing all the positions being doubled and plenty of room for internal growth.

BLAZERS
In: Nurkic/Okogie/33
Out:Ayton

They get a return on Ayton's expiration, they get back a veteran they like to fill the backup position, now in a mentor role. They save money and get a good SRP.

[Mavrelous]

When did the Hawks get Pacers FRP? Isn't it with NOP?
Replace Okogie with Green and send the 22 to POR, keep 33 with Hornets.

BLAZERS
In: Nurkic/Green/22
Out:Ayton

[Astaluego]

When did the Hawks get Pacers FRP? Isn't it with NOP?
Replace Okogie with Green and send the 22 to POR, keep 33 with Hornets.

BLAZERS
In: Nurkic/Green/22
Out:Ayton

edited thanks
I thought the Hornets would prefer to keep the FRP... Green's salary doesn't bother them too much for now.

[tcheco]

Should Hawks trade 2 picks for a center with Okongwu on the roster having his best year so far? Makes little sense specially with Okongwu having such a team friendly contract and mark williams having a health concern and needs to get extended after next year.

Hawks say not today, but Hornets should look for a team in need of a center to dump Mark for that price if they can honestly, taking ayton too wouldnt be bad, but I cant find a team that needs a Mark Williams right now, Lakers of course, but that fell through... All other teams either are not close to competing or already have a good enough center to handle their rotation or need one with spacing ability

[HornetJail]

I'm not interested in trading Mark for Ayton, however that future pick could be VERY interesting if the Bucks trade Giannis for a huge package of picks and no current talent. But if they do, that pick isn't getting traded at all because it's a potential gold mine.

I also don't think the Hawks own it

[tester551]

When did the Hawks get Pacers FRP? Isn't it with NOP?
Replace Okogie with Green and send the 22 to POR, keep 33 with Hornets.

BLAZERS
In: Nurkic/Green/22
Out:Ayton

I'm not sure that I do either trade for Portland.

Okogie is expiring ($8M) and playable.
Green is a worse player owed ($14M and $15M).

Portland takes on ~$20M extra and the pick upgrade is only 33 to 22? I would prefer Okogie/33 over Green/22... But neither one would really excite me.

[Ball4life32]

I'm not interested in trading Mark for Ayton, however that future pick could be VERY interesting if the Bucks trade Giannis for a huge package of picks and no current talent. But if they do, that pick isn't getting traded at all because it's a potential gold mine.

I also don't think the Hawks own it

Hawks own worst of either NO/MIL pick top 4 protected in 2027.

[BlazersBroncos]

When did the Hawks get Pacers FRP? Isn't it with NOP?
Replace Okogie with Green and send the 22 to POR, keep 33 with Hornets.

BLAZERS
In: Nurkic/Green/22
Out:Ayton

I'm not sure that I do either trade for Portland.

Okogie is expiring ($8M) and playable.
Green is a worse player owed ($14M and $15M).

Portland takes on ~$20M extra and the pick upgrade is only 33 to 22? I would prefer Okogie/33 over Green/22... But neither one would really excite me.

The Okogie version is a quick yes for me. But Green at 14 and 15 is just too much to take on for 22 IMO.

[psman2]

Okongwu had a breakout second half of the season. He is undersized a little but still a good defender. I would not waste assets beyond FA money at the center position for the hawks. I think they need another 4/3 forward that can start with JJ is out and a better backup PG.

[Mavrelous]

When did the Hawks get Pacers FRP? Isn't it with NOP?
Replace Okogie with Green and send the 22 to POR, keep 33 with Hornets.

BLAZERS
In: Nurkic/Green/22
Out:Ayton

I'm not sure that I do either trade for Portland.

Okogie is expiring ($8M) and playable.
Green is a worse player owed ($14M and $15M).

Portland takes on ~$20M extra and the pick upgrade is only 33 to 22? I would prefer Okogie/33 over Green/22... But neither one would really excite me.

The Okogie version is a quick yes for me. But Green at 14 and 15 is just too much to take on for 22 IMO.

The Okogie version adds 16M in salary to CHO, Okogie is unguaranteed, they'd guarantee him just to make this trade.
The Green version adds 14M is salary to POR next year when they are way below the salary floor, late 1st is more than enough to cover for it, especially since there is almost no opportunity cost...

[Myth]

I'm not sure that I do either trade for Portland.

Okogie is expiring ($8M) and playable.
Green is a worse player owed ($14M and $15M).

Portland takes on ~$20M extra and the pick upgrade is only 33 to 22? I would prefer Okogie/33 over Green/22... But neither one would really excite me.

The Okogie version is a quick yes for me. But Green at 14 and 15 is just too much to take on for 22 IMO.

The Okogie version adds 16M in salary to CHO, Okogie is unguaranteed, they'd guarantee him just to make this trade.
The Green version adds 14M is salary to POR next year when they are way below the salary floor, late 1st is more than enough to cover for it, especially since there is almost no opportunity cost...

I'd take Green instead of Okogie to get the 22nd pick.

[HornetJail]

I'm not interested in trading Mark for Ayton, however that future pick could be VERY interesting if the Bucks trade Giannis for a huge package of picks and no current talent. But if they do, that pick isn't getting traded at all because it's a potential gold mine.

I also don't think the Hawks own it

Hawks own worst of either NO/MIL pick top 4 protected in 2027.

ah i see it now. whole trade was very confusing to look at

That feels like one of the most valuable picks on the market if the Bucks blow it up, which feels inevitable

[tester551]

I'm not sure that I do either trade for Portland.

Okogie is expiring ($8M) and playable.
Green is a worse player owed ($14M and $15M).

Portland takes on ~$20M extra and the pick upgrade is only 33 to 22? I would prefer Okogie/33 over Green/22... But neither one would really excite me.

The Okogie version is a quick yes for me. But Green at 14 and 15 is just too much to take on for 22 IMO.

The Okogie version adds 16M in salary to CHO, Okogie is unguaranteed, they'd guarantee him just to make this trade.
The Green version adds 14M is salary to POR next year when they are way below the salary floor, late 1st is more than enough to cover for it, especially since there is almost no opportunity cost...

I don't see how the Okogie version ADDS any salary to CHA. Okogie is good enough that I'd be surprised if he is cut for salary cap reasons.
Hornets are also far enough below the tax line there would be no reason to cut Josh.

I can see an argument that the Green version doesn't allow the Hornets to DUMP an extra $7M this season.

I also disagree with the take that there's no opportunity cost to Portland in the 26/27 season.

Having said that, I REALLY do like several of the prospects that should be available in the 20-35 range. It would have to be a draft night deal when I could see exactly who is on the board at 22 before pulling the trigger.